New revan model is already on sisi, it is just a high-poly version of the old one (with some small tweaks) and it looks 98% the same.

Caldari ships are meant to be asymmetic. +1 CCP for keeping the old model.

Yeah it looks okay; it was far from the worst model in the game anyway. I like the beefed up engine section on the stern, much better than the tapered version on the old model.

Now when the get to the moa and the osprey, those will need to be done from scratch

New Raven model looks just as godawful as the old one, it's just a higher-definition godawful.

Spaceships are built symmetrical for a goddamn reason, CCP.

CCP should have made ships of one faction all assymmetrical as a special distinguishing feature, not random ships of every faction. It looks messy and unrealistic.

At least we'll get a symmetrical Crow!

CCP should have made ships of one faction all assymmetrical as a special distinguishing feature, not random ships of every faction. It looks messy and unrealistic.

At least we'll get a symmetrical Crow!

Spaceships are built symmetrical for a goddamn reason, CCP.

What would that reason be? Space friction? Distribution of mass in a weightless environment?

What would that reason be? Space friction? Distribution of mass in a weightless environment?

I like the raven model and even if I would not, CCP can't change it because of this.

Oh, let me think... off the top of my head...

1. Mass distribution in an environment in which mass and the way you distribute it has massive ramifications on the way your vehicle manouvers. If your ship is asymmetrical, it means the amount of thrust you have to give to each side to make the thing fly in a straight line is also asymmetrical. If even one of your engines on one side of the ship gives out, it'll spin along its vertical axis.

2. Homogenisation of ship structural aspects - if one side of the Raven is more vulnerable to certain types of ordinance than the other, the enemy will exploit that flaw.

3. Ease of maintenance and production. If a ship is notably asymmetrical you'll have to manufacture seperate parts for each side.

4. Standardisation of docking facilities is notably easier.

5. Aesthetic sensibility! For heaven's sake, asymmetrical ships are UGLY!

5: Beauty is not something the Caldari strive for in ship design. Besides, some degree of asymmetry can still be aesthetically appealing.

If we wanted function and utility and real world realities of a space born craft that will never reenter atmosphere. it would be just a sphere or some other very standardized shape like a cylinder. Wow. exciting game.
Nothing wrong with symmetry. I imagine most players physically look rather symmetrical. Yet I like spaceships with wild doo-dads and sensors and wings and death blossoms.
When the frame itself has a horrible flaw that would look like a bad idea even in a cartoon (the paper thin hull connecting the old scorpions tail to the main body) That deserves a grisly death. Yet I never did mind it having one wing.

Nothing is wrong with the Moa. Right?

1: So, you're saying there's nothing wrong with asymmetry as long as it is compensated for in the distribution of thrust? I agree.
2: Caldari rely on their shields to absorb damage, so this is pretty much irrelevant.
3: Are the two wings of an F16 interchangeable? No, they are not.
4: This is an argument for homogenising ship design, not for symmetry.
5: Beauty is not something the Caldari strive for in ship design. Besides, some degree of asymmetry can still be aesthetically appealing.

5. Show me one notably asymmetrical woman you'd be willing to date.

While I share enthusiasm for aircraft carriers, that isn't a woman.

(Also, aircraft carriers are not spaceships, have a notable reason for their asymmetry, and are externally symmetrical below the flight deck)

Space craft have plenty of reasons to be equally asymmetrical. Not to the extent realistically as the raven, but sensor clusters, Weapon platforms. Drone bays and guidance centers. Power centers.

Space craft have plenty of reasons to be equally asymmetrical. Not to the extent realistically as the raven, but sensor clusters, Weapon platforms. Drone bays and guidance centers. Power centers.

Imagine our own craft to venture to mars It would likely look a cross between the ISS and Project Orion.

Likely end up similar to the aircraft carrier but inverted due to its environment.

asymetric design is caldari design

dont ruin the game

5. Aesthetic sensibility! For heaven's sake, asymmetrical ships are UGLY!

The best reason in my opinion is #5 , not to discredit the other ones listed mind you.

Whatever happens, finished or not, this ship is looking sexeh as hell;

New Raven Model and Skin

What would that reason be? Space friction? Distribution of mass in a weightless environment?

not to mention that asymmetric ships are sexy.

So you don't like the Ravan because it's asymmetrical?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

And I behold no beauty when I look upon the Raven.

I see a very cool space tank-like killing machine thing.

The asymmatry does exactly the right thing: it says it is a Caldari ship. It's a killing machine.

Chasing after some useless beauty is for the Gellante.

The Raven is doing fine. It is doing a very good job actually because of its ICONIC status it has gained.

It shall not be changed.

The scorpion on the other hand was a failue.

And I behold no beauty when I look upon the Raven.

And I think the Raven is one of the most beautiful ships in EVE.

My point exactly