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corestwo
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Posted - 2011.11.14 23:11:00 -
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Usurpine wrote:Its ok for me if DUST will fail. I dont want buy a console for playing it anyway.
Don't be shortsighted. This affects Eve, even if DUST never comes into being. Ignore the bits about DUST if you want - the point is that for an "alliance level income source", these are laughable at best. |
corestwo
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Posted - 2011.12.03 03:08:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:More than one alliance has recently released information supporting claims against goonswarm and Mittani that the chairman used his foreknowledge of the upcoming expansion to position goonswarm in position to line it's pockets at the expense of other players via the new changes to PI.
So would you care to back that claim up? I bet you can't, since the actual explanation that we obsessively pore over public information (blue posts, patch notes, etc) so as to be well informed speculators.
But go ahead, keep making crazy, Bachmann-esque assertions. They entertain us.  |
corestwo
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Posted - 2011.12.03 03:11:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:I never said that I opposed all taxes, I just dislike the overbearing advantage that it gives goonswarm (and to a degree other alliances), with no possible way around it for players who are not like me, and can laugh off 200m isk losses.
It's unfair to the 50% of the in game population who live in high sec, according to CCP's numbers, and it harkens back too much to the bad old days for me to feel comfortable about it.
I see words in front of me but all I hear is "I can't make just as much money as people in 0.0 with absolutely zero risk  " |
corestwo
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Posted - 2011.12.03 03:18:00 -
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POCOs and the fact that they would be destructible has been public knowledge for pretty much just as long as we (and I mean "we" as in "everyone in eve" here) have known about POCOs and given our recent interdiction of gallente ice, going out of our way to target certain planets and replace them with our own seems like a pretty obvious move.
Do you have any more hilarious reaching to do, or are you done making unfounded accusations?
And by the way, regarding the whole "insider information" thing? A CSM member took advantage of his inside information quite some time ago, back prior to the dyspro/prom nerf. They removed him from the CSM. Does that answer your questions about "What does CCP do about inside information abuse"? |
corestwo
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Posted - 2011.12.03 03:23:00 -
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Well considering that evenews24 is the literal equivalent of fox news, they'd probably run with it themselves. |
corestwo
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Posted - 2011.12.03 03:30:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Lord Zim wrote:
Explain to me, and you can use small words if you think it'll help, why you think this is something that in a major way benefits goonswarm, and apparently just "to a degree" other alliances, and how there's "no way around it" for players who can't laugh off a measly 200m isk loss.
Consider the volume of space goonswarm and it's associates currently control. Factor in the number of planets that this gives them near exclusive right to. Now, compare this to the number of planets, per member, that other groups, such as carebears have access to, and the relative quality of those planets. By setting the tax at 0 for blues, goonswarm can effectively dictate the price of PI materials, either by underselling on a massive scale, flooding the market to drive under competitors, while still making a profit, albiet a smaller one, and then once those competitors have been eliminated, raising the price to whatever you want. Effectively, goons would always be able to undersell and make a profit, due to volume and absolute control of the chain of supply. Even if you have friendly lowsec corps willing to give you 0%, you can't deal in the sort of quantities at the same prices, particularly since the bottleneck on PI infrastructure limiting how much could be harvested at once has been raised.
So what would you say if I told you that POS towers get a sov bonus that gives reduced fuel consumption and, obviously, only applies in 0.0? |
corestwo
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Posted - 2011.12.03 03:45:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Cygnet Lythanea wrote:And tell me, again, what goonswarm makes a killing off of atm and dominates the market? Moon goo? Hmmm.... What are you talking about now? Don't be shy, spell it out. I'm a dumb goon, remember.
Apparently Mittani was on the CSM before he was ever on the CSM and told us that technetium would get buffed. We lost delve on purpose so that we could move to the north and get given space, you see. The guy who got kicked off the CSM was just the fall guy, he made his hugely obvious market buy to divert suspicion. |
corestwo
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Posted - 2011.12.03 04:08:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:corestwo was implying that the advantage of PI would only have the same impact as the POS savings that alliances get, overlooking that his own alliances makes a considerable portion of it's income exactly that way.
Basically. 0.0 takes more effort to hold and typically entails more risks to operate in. This comes with certain perks to compensate.
But I guess you're the type that thinks the game would be at its best if the most money were to be made by running missions in highsec or something. |
corestwo
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Posted - 2011.12.03 04:59:00 -
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Figured I'd drop by and share one more tidbit with you, since all your hurfing and blurfing is predicated on a 0% tax rate.
We're actually setting our POCOs at 15%. |
corestwo
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Posted - 2011.12.03 06:00:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:For neutrals, I can believe it. For blues, somehow I'm skeptical that you're charging your own alliance a higher rate then high sec.
Interbus POCOs are 17%, everyone works with those until they're replaced. And in any case, 0.0 extracts at a higher rate so even at 15% our guys still come out ahead.
I bet you don't know what to believe now  |
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corestwo
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Posted - 2011.12.03 06:35:00 -
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The other flaw in your reasoning is that you're assuming that goons are somehow actually a collective economic force. While this is true in some ways, "collectively working together to fix the price of our respective players PI output" is not one of them.
But hey, keep ranting and raving about the big bad goons. |
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