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Precentor Saggitus
Planet Express Transport
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Posted - 2014.04.04 19:24:00 -
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This other thread just seems to confirm that the general consensus among the EVE population is to pop pods as a matter of course.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=334351&find=unread
It occurs to me that people sparing pods, is incredibly unusual in the game, for whatever reasons. The question would be, if you have spared a pod, for reasons outside the immediately tactical, why did you do it? My experience is that no one in EVE honors ransoms anymore, there used to be a small chance, but now the tendency is that it is much more esteemed that one also extorts some ISK before reneging on any ransom negotiations, and a ransom demand is again a matter of course when one party thinks it can extort more. I've yet to encounter anyone who's busy trying to build a reputation as an "honorable" pirate.
So has anyone actually honored a ransom, at least recently? If so, what compells you to do so? Are there any stories of anyone being purposely spared for other purposes? Someone mentioned political reasons in the other thread, not needing to be too specific, what are the stories behind those reasons?
To me, this question is far more interesting than the standard responses the other thread has generated. Small instances of emergent gameplay if you will, given the rarity of its occurence.
Few people understand the psycology of a highway traffic cop. Your average speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4275
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Posted - 2014.04.04 19:29:00 -
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Because I was slow, and he was lucky...
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
591
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Posted - 2014.04.04 19:34:00 -
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There's a pirate corp called The Bastards who always honour ransoms. They accept singing ransoms too.
I'd only pay a ransom to those with the reputation of honouring them which, I agree, is becoming more rare. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5057
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Posted - 2014.04.04 19:34:00 -
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I've spared nublet pods. Mostly back in the days when I'd camp DED 1 and 2 dead space sites. All I really wanted to do was get them out so I could grab the spawns. I accomplished that with ship destruction and felt no need to be a total **** about it.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Precentor Saggitus
Planet Express Transport
12
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Posted - 2014.04.04 19:42:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Because I was slow, and he was lucky...
Swing and a miss. Try to keep up. Imagine you got their pod pointed. The power is in your hands, you decide to let them go. Why do you spare them? What are the stories around these rare occurences?
Quote:I'd only pay a ransom to those with the reputation of honouring them which, I agree, is becoming more rare.
It used to happen, but I haven't seen or heard of it in a long time. When it comes to that point, I just say "pod me and get it over with. Even corps that had a reputation for honoring them, usually had a lot of members who didn't. No sense throwing good ISK after bad.
Few people understand the psycology of a highway traffic cop. Your average speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow. |
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
292
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Posted - 2014.04.04 19:46:00 -
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I like to keep my sec status up so I usually let pods go in Lowsec. |
Gabriel Z
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
9
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Posted - 2014.04.04 19:52:00 -
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Why would I want to get them home and into a new ship faster? |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4275
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Posted - 2014.04.04 19:52:00 -
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Precentor Saggitus wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Because I was slow, and he was lucky...
Swing and a miss. Try to keep up. Imagine you got their pod pointed. The power is in your hands, you decide to let them go. Why do you spare them? What are the stories around these rare occurences?
OP title simply asks why have you spared a pod? I answered that question. Your assumption I would have any other reason is amusing..
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
336
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Posted - 2014.04.04 19:57:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Because I was slow, and he was lucky...
Then, you didn't spare it. You MISSED it.
Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to. |
Arduemont
The State of War.
Vendetta Mercenary Group
3163
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Posted - 2014.04.04 19:59:00 -
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I honoured a ransom once. Once.
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice."
www.stateofwar.co.nf |
KnowUsByTheDead
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
1225
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Posted - 2014.04.04 20:00:00 -
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I ransomed a guy for his Hulk during a safari.
But I let his pod go because his grandmother died the week before.
And gave him my condolences, ofc, before dropping corp.
After all, I am not a complete [insert armchair psychoanalysis here].
Also, do we need two threads on the same subject?
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
-á-á-á-á-á-á-á |
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
283
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Posted - 2014.04.04 20:01:00 -
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I dont go out of my way to ruin someone's day. It is more profitable to avoid combat, and creating enemies may hurt productivity later.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
1056
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Posted - 2014.04.04 20:08:00 -
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On the pod killing question, I find it depends on the sec status of the space whether you are more or less likely to be podded.
In null, generally people go for the pod too. I also take that approach.
In lowsec, I find that while there is still a large number of gate campers and fleets that will pod you, there is a greater chance that you won't be podded, especially in small gang and 1v1 fights.
I used to pod everything, but the sec status hit and killright became a pain in the backside, so in lowsec I usually leave pods alone unless I can "legally" kill it.
On ramsoming. I don't do it. I either kill the pod or not. I've never come across anyone who honors a paid ransom.
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
MMM pie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.04.04 20:16:00 -
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I spared a pod of some guy who gave me 2 good fights.. had it pointed and then let it fly away.
He informed me later it was a slave set pod... |
Serene Repose
1228
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Posted - 2014.04.04 20:17:00 -
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Never pass up a good pissin' contest. That's what I always say.
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
GavinGoodrich
Dissident Aggressors
Mordus Angels
46
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Posted - 2014.04.04 20:49:00 -
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Got a 500 miil bounty on a pod worth several bil. Killmails are forever, but you can't spend 'em
Haaaaaalp my head's on fire |
Rikanin
30plus
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
82
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Posted - 2014.04.04 21:02:00 -
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Noxisia Arkana wrote:I like to keep my sec status up so I usually let pods go in Lowsec.
Not having to grind back from -10.0 again is reason enough to let them go in low. I see no reason to let them go in null or wormhole space.
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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
627
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Posted - 2014.04.04 21:04:00 -
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Cause it was my second day in game (or so), I therefore didnt know how much armor/shield/hull/whatever the pod has and fired one light missile at it, thinking it would die (the guy had a massive - to me, at the time - bounty).
yeah...
PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented!
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proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game
http://i.imgur.com/RX8oBRN.jpg |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20458
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Posted - 2014.04.04 21:08:00 -
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Because animal rights activists get really aggressive unless you let flipper goGǪ
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Xylem Viliana
Protomonolithic
176
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Posted - 2014.04.04 21:14:00 -
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I have, once.
Popped the ship and pointed the pod. A corpmate of mine landed in a talos and killed it. Made it difficult to do much.
Almost spared another before that, was gonna poke fun then let him go but the second i pointed the pod he logged out. I waited a few mins and nothing so i shot it and sent him a mail explaining logging off doesnt save you.
To be fair though i rarely PvP on this char. |
Precentor Saggitus
Planet Express Transport
13
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Posted - 2014.04.04 21:14:00 -
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Pok Nibin wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Because I was slow, and he was lucky... Then, you didn't spare it. You MISSED it.
Bingo.
Knowusbythedead wrote:Also, do we need two threads on the same subject?
Everyone in the previous thread was uniform in their replies. I was hoping for something of interest here, and attracting a different response. You know, other than the "EVE is harsh" and the "Tears sustain me" responses.
I'm just interested in a good story. Did someone put up a particularly good fight? Was there a political reason to spare them? For example, were you possibly hoping to turn or recruit one of your captives? Does that even happen? Join us or die sort of thing? Is there anyone bent on gaining that as a reputation? I mean if one did spare them to honor a ransom, is it feasable or has anyone made a space-living that way? I remember reading one of the few magazine articles I seen about EVE once where someone had claimed they did such a thing, but that thought process seems to have disappeared from EVE.
Few people understand the psycology of a highway traffic cop. Your average speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow. |
Jayem See
CTRL-Q
Iron Oxide.
2555
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Posted - 2014.04.04 21:18:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Because animal rights activists get really aggressive unless you let flipper goGǪ
It took me a second and then I sniggered to myself.
Aaaaaaand relax. |
Telegram Sam
The Drones Club
Shoot 2 Thrill
1333
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Posted - 2014.04.04 21:22:00 -
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I do, because getting the ship is enough, no need to get the guy's pod too. And because my Battleclinic KB is showing a worthless T1 turret BPC loss as valued at 5bil or something. After that seeing that, I don't pay much attention to the isk value of losses on KBs, and I'm not going for somebody's Snake implants. |
Erica Dusette
Sky Fighters
Sky Syndicate
6119
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Posted - 2014.04.04 21:27:00 -
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Usually if I see someone trapped in a wormhole in their pod asking for help in local or convo then I'll show them the way out.
If I see the pod on scan though and no request for help then I'd usually shoot them.
Well... that's not 100% honest. I'll sometimes ask them in local myself if they need help. 
Wormholes can be lonely. 
"Oh look a capsule!! Be my friend and I'll spare your life!"
-áMajor (Ret.) Caldari Naval Militia | Part-time wormhole pirate | Full-time super model
Gÿá -á Sky Fighters |-áSith1s Spectre: "Here at Sky Fighters we respect quality forum PvPers." |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
1538
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Posted - 2014.04.04 21:31:00 -
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2 Reasons:
1. An old joke from years back about my having sworn an oath against podkilling (I've kept it going this long, why stop now?)
2. (The actual reason) Because I rather like the fact that I have over 600 lifetime kills, and not a one of them is a pod.
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Djana Libra
DAB
The Unthinkables
349
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Posted - 2014.04.04 21:45:00 -
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back in the ole days people would actually pay for pod ransoms always let them go if they paid. |
Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated
Executive Outcomes
559
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Posted - 2014.04.04 22:04:00 -
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I didn't.
Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
Covert pilots unite! Safer working conditions, less accidental limb loss due to unfortunate Cyno accidents!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=258986 |
Goa Chai
71
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Posted - 2014.04.04 22:07:00 -
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"Spare the pod, spoil the child."
I think it says that in the Pax Amarria somewhere. |
Tear Jar
The Conference Elite
CODE.
82
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:40:00 -
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Sparing the pod in wormhole space is even funnier than killing it. You can collapse the wormholes and trap him there. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
14980
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Posted - 2014.04.05 00:22:00 -
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I have never spared a pod
1 Kings 12:11
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
5096
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Posted - 2014.04.05 01:15:00 -
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If I am in a good mood I'll sometimes I let newbies go. It also depends on how they react to their ship's death.
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Herzav
Perkone
Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2014.04.05 01:47:00 -
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I though pods getting away was a feature of EvE?
I can never catch those little buggers... |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers
Fidelas Constans
391
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Posted - 2014.04.05 02:16:00 -
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The guy seemed really lost and i was honestly curious what he was doing in such a rinky-dink fit gnossis dozens of jumps from home with passive targetting system In 0.0.
Apparently he got lost in a wh and finally got out in the wrong system after a run in with some very nasty rats. |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
373
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Posted - 2014.04.05 02:39:00 -
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I only pod people that are dumb enough to stick around long enough to be locked.
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Precentor Saggitus
Planet Express Transport
17
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Posted - 2014.04.05 04:05:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:I have never spared a pod
Umm, good for you? I sort of expected quite of few of these types of responses, but I was hoping for something more interesting to come from a CSM.
Let me be clear. I could care less if people like podding others or not, I've just noted that its the norm. I thought it would be interesting to hear if anyone doesn't, what reasons they might have. one notes that the number is low. A lesson for new players, don't expect mercy or quarter in New Eden.
Few people understand the psycology of a highway traffic cop. Your average speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow. |
Freakdevil
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
108
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Posted - 2014.04.05 04:22:00 -
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I have spared some old acquaintances on occasion as an act of courtesy. Funny character and ship names and respectful local chat can be a deciding factor, either way.
Other times I am just a mean SOB and will just keep cycling my guns regardless.
You know something, this game tends to bring out the best and worst of me. |
Ned Thomas
Death Rider inc
M1NER CONFL1CT
0
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Posted - 2014.04.05 04:26:00 -
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A response from the other side: my pod was recently spared because I challenged a WT to a 1v1 frigate fight and they didn't want to give me the free trip back to my med station once I lost. |
Chicken Pizza
Penumbra Institute
93
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Posted - 2014.04.05 04:42:00 -
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Gabriel Z wrote:Why would I want to get them home and into a new ship faster?
Because there's more of a chance that "home" is somewhere far away as opposed to the very system you just let them go in... |
Rear Admiral Blasto
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.04.05 05:30:00 -
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Rookies get a pass (on the pod only)
As do wayward pods in WH's..... most times.
In LS, I am willing to take a sec hit for aggression, not so much for a pod kill. |
Jim Era
8511
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Posted - 2014.04.05 06:58:00 -
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Violence isn't the answer
WatGäó |
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
1363
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Posted - 2014.04.05 07:10:00 -
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I spared a pod because I noticed the guy was blue v.v |
Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm.
The Storm Collective
216
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Posted - 2014.04.05 07:38:00 -
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Precentor Saggitus wrote:This other thread just seems to confirm that the general consensus among the EVE population is to pop pods as a matter of course. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=334351&find=unreadIt occurs to me that people sparing pods, is incredibly unusual in the game, for whatever reasons. The question would be, if you have spared a pod, for reasons outside the immediately tactical, why did you do it? My experience is that no one in EVE honors ransoms anymore, there used to be a small chance, but now the tendency is that it is much more esteemed that one also extorts some ISK before reneging on any ransom negotiations, and a ransom demand is again a matter of course when one party thinks it can extort more. I've yet to encounter anyone who's busy trying to build a reputation as an "honorable" pirate. So has anyone actually honored a ransom, at least recently? If so, what compells you to do so? Are there any stories of anyone being purposely spared for other purposes? Someone mentioned political reasons in the other thread, not needing to be too specific, what are the stories behind those reasons? To me, this question is far more interesting than the standard responses the other thread has generated. Small instances of emergent gameplay if you will, given the rarity of its occurence.
I spared a iteron 5 tonight, because what does the game actually benefit from this guy dying? He is a WH player, I want to encourage his activity, no deny it just for the sake thereof.
as is i taxed him 5mil, he paid, got away. easy as that.
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