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Haka Kakinen State War Academy Caldari State 8	Posted - 2014.04.04 20:14:00 - [1] - Quote we have any weapon damage increase or tracking improvement implants for example : Zainou 'Deadeye' Small Hybrid Turret SH-603 (3% bonus to small hybrid turret damage.) but none for drones !!!! CCP please make drone implants !!!! drone damage , drone tracking , drone falloff
Egravant Alduin Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 72	Posted - 2014.04.04 20:26:00 - [2] - Quote I like it but drones is already one of the best weapon systems in game and they might be overpowered if they give them more bonuses.
Haka Kakinen State War Academy Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.04.04 22:23:00 - [3] - Quote Egravant Alduin wrote: I like it but drones is already one of the best weapon systems in game and they might be overpowered if they give them more bonuses. who cares , implants should be for all weaponry "including" drones
Rowells Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans 391	Posted - 2014.04.04 23:50:00 - [4] - Quote Haka Kakinen wrote: who cares, implants should be for all weaponry "including" drones That's a bold move there, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.
Zan Shiro Alternative Enterprises 406	Posted - 2014.04.05 03:36:00 - [5] - Quote Haka Kakinen wrote: Egravant Alduin wrote: I like it but drones is already one of the best weapon systems in game and they might be overpowered if they give them more bonuses. who cares , implants should be for all weaponry "including" drones people who want some game balance do..... Drones are still in a period of tweaking. Domi was adjusted, omnilink scripted and drone assist looked at. CCP in the case of the first 2 items is not going to reverse those changes with drone implants. Your scripting for range at the cost of tracking (or vice versa) was by design. Chance of implant to get you both back is slim to none here.
Haka Kakinen State War Academy Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.04.05 11:04:00 - [6] - Quote Zan Shiro wrote: Haka Kakinen wrote: Egravant Alduin wrote: I like it but drones is already one of the best weapon systems in game and they might be overpowered if they give them more bonuses. who cares , implants should be for all weaponry "including" drones people who want some game balance do..... Drones are still in a period of tweaking. Domi was adjusted, omnilink scripted and drone assist looked at. CCP in the case of the first 2 items is not going to reverse those changes with drone implants. Your scripting for range at the cost of tracking (or vice versa) was by design. Chance of implant to get you both back is slim to none here. dude , tracking computers are for guns too !! and of course we have implants for more gun tracking , missile velocity , etc. So why not drone implants ?
admiral root Red Galaxy Disband. 1077	Posted - 2014.04.05 11:12:00 - [7] - Quote I give it 3/10. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Cloak n'all Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 32	Posted - 2014.04.05 19:19:00 - [8] - Quote Zan Shiro wrote: Haka Kakinen wrote: Egravant Alduin wrote: I like it but drones is already one of the best weapon systems in game and they might be overpowered if they give them more bonuses. who cares , implants should be for all weaponry "including" drones people who want some game balance do..... Drones are still in a period of tweaking. Domi was adjusted, omnilink scripted and drone assist looked at. CCP in the case of the first 2 items is not going to reverse those changes with drone implants. Your scripting for range at the cost of tracking (or vice versa) was by design. Chance of implant to get you both back is slim to none here. They could make Drone implants with a "give and take" mechanic similar to the Rigs for ships to accommodate this. However, everything i game should not, IMHO, have implants for it.
Giullare Insurgent New Eden Tribe RAZOR Alliance 40	Posted - 2014.04.05 20:44:00 - [9] - Quote 2k dps vindicator can benefit from gun's implants, who cares
Haka Kakinen State War Academy Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.04.07 10:59:00 - [10] - Quote bump
Alundil Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate 460	Posted - 2014.04.07 12:07:00 - [11] - Quote Giullare wrote: 2k dps vindicator can benefit from gun's implants, who cares Agreed it would make some niche fits pretty craycray. But that said, 2k dps vindicators are going to be very squishy. I have one that your comment applied to. Good luck keeping it up in a fight because a shield fit vindi is squishy. Clone mechanics enchancements Deep Space Probe Revival
King Rothgar Aegis Interplanetary .Inc Sanguis Ignis Prosperitum 396	Posted - 2014.04.07 12:29:00 - [12] - Quote I see no reason not to have drone implants. Is +5% sentry drone and +5% all drone damage really going to make that big of a difference in the grand scheme? I don't think so. So the Ishtar will do 770dps at 50km instead of 700. Big deal, it's slightly more OP. The Oracle and Naga can pull that off too in similarly mobile platforms. The real problem is the Ishtar gettng BS class weapons while all the other HACs get cruiser class. Drop it to 50 bandwidth and that problem goes away real fast. No one complains about domi's and they do just as much damage at the same range with the same tracking with the same drones. The Ishtar being broken is not a valid reason to oppose this idea imho. The problem is a specific ship, not drones in general. Fireworks and snowballs are great, but what I really want is a corpse launcher.
Haka Kakinen State War Academy Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.04.08 12:24:00 - [13] - Quote bump
Corraidhin Farsaidh Hello-There 347	Posted - 2014.04.08 12:30:00 - [14] - Quote King Rothgar wrote: The Ishtar being broken is not a valid reason to oppose this idea imho. The problem is a specific ship, not drones in general. ishtar isn't broken...it takes an extensive set of skills (both character and player) to pilot effectively and therefore the rewards should reflect this. As in other threads on ishtar being OP I would say that any ship where you can directly target and destroy its dps capability has a distinct weakness. Ishtar seems balanced to me. OP: I would also like to see drone implants, drones are a weapon system just as any other, so implants would be justifiable
Haka Kakinen State War Academy Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.04.09 18:17:00 - [15] - Quote Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote: King Rothgar wrote: The Ishtar being broken is not a valid reason to oppose this idea imho. The problem is a specific ship, not drones in general. ishtar isn't broken...it takes an extensive set of skills (both character and player) to pilot effectively and therefore the rewards should reflect this. As in other threads on ishtar being OP I would say that any ship where you can directly target and destroy its dps capability has a distinct weakness. Ishtar seems balanced to me. OP: I would also like to see drone implants, drones are a weapon system just as any other, so implants would be justifiable what he said ^^
Haka Kakinen State War Academy Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.04.10 17:47:00 - [16] - Quote bump
Nolen Cadmar Nexus Ore Technologies and Excavations Surely You're Joking 148	Posted - 2014.04.10 19:25:00 - [17] - Quote I disprove. Partly becuase "Who cares" is not a legitimate rebuttal. The main reason I think there should not be implants for drones is because they don't consume ammo. Each weapon system has its pro's and con's. Why should drones be exempt? Nolen's Spreadsheet Guru Services: Need a spreadsheet created, maintained, updated or repaired? Learn more about my services at:-á https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3865379
Corraidhin Farsaidh Hello-There 352	Posted - 2014.04.10 19:46:00 - [18] - Quote Nolen Cadmar wrote: I disprove. Partly becuase "Who cares" is not a legitimate rebuttal. The main reason I think there should not be implants for drones is because they don't consume ammo. Each weapon system has its pro's and con's. Why should drones be exempt? You can blow drones up, whereas you can't directly target guns/launchers. Pretty big con to balance the pro I think.
Nolen Cadmar Nexus Ore Technologies and Excavations Surely You're Joking 149	Posted - 2014.04.10 19:49:00 - [19] - Quote Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote: Nolen Cadmar wrote: I disprove. Partly becuase "Who cares" is not a legitimate rebuttal. The main reason I think there should not be implants for drones is because they don't consume ammo. Each weapon system has its pro's and con's. Why should drones be exempt? You can blow drones up, whereas you can't directly target guns/launchers. Pretty big con to balance the pro I think. I didn't say there were no others. I just meant why should one of them be removed? If we remove a con from drones, maybe we should remove a con from missiles? Make missile hit for the same damage regardless of speed. Nolen's Spreadsheet Guru Services: Need a spreadsheet created, maintained, updated or repaired? Learn more about my services at:-á https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3865379
Noxisia Arkana Deadspace Knights 308	Posted - 2014.04.10 20:20:00 - [20] - Quote Rowells wrote: Haka Kakinen wrote: who cares, implants should be for all weaponry "including" drones That's a bold move there, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him. Now people at work are looking at me weird.
Captain StringfellowHawk Forsaken Reavers 114	Posted - 2014.04.11 00:50:00 - [21] - Quote Only if like with the other Implants they reduce the effectiveness of the Drone system. Much like they did with Omni's etc. If Drone implants came to the game then the drones itself should be reduced in effectiveness to balance the implants coming into the game. Drones are already one of the most powerful weapon systems in the game and I love my drone boats to death. But something has to give for something to be added. The tracking and DPS for drone systems are amazing and outclass all other weapon systems where it comes to hull usage. A vexor can put out the same DPS as a Battleship.
Nolen Cadmar Nexus Ore Technologies and Excavations Surely You're Joking 151	Posted - 2014.04.11 00:55:00 - [22] - Quote Captain StringfellowHawk wrote: Only if like with the other Implants they reduce the effectiveness of the Drone system. Much like they did with Omni's etc. If Drone implants came to the game then the drones itself should be reduced in effectiveness to balance the implants coming into the game. Drones are already one of the most powerful weapon systems in the game and I love my drone boats to death. But something has to give for something to be added. The tracking and DPS for drone systems are amazing and outclass all other weapon systems where it comes to hull usage. A vexor can put out the same DPS as a Battleship. Indeed, which possibly is why the haven't implemented drone implants, and why the "who cares do it anyways" method isn't going to work. CCP is serious about rebalancing everything. Saying "**** it, just throw them in" would destroy all the work they've done over the past year. Nolen's Spreadsheet Guru Services: Need a spreadsheet created, maintained, updated or repaired? Learn more about my services at:-á https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3865379
Alvatore DiMarco Capricious Endeavours Ltd 1973	Posted - 2014.04.11 01:01:00 - [23] - Quote Yeah, so, um. Power creep. It's a thing. It's bad. OP wants it. Does that mean OP is bad too?
Nolen Cadmar Nexus Ore Technologies and Excavations Surely You're Joking 151	Posted - 2014.04.11 02:47:00 - [24] - Quote Alvatore DiMarco wrote: Yeah, so, um. Power creep. It's a thing. It's bad. OP wants it. Does that mean OP is bad too? OP is bad and should feel bad. Nolen's Spreadsheet Guru Services: Need a spreadsheet created, maintained, updated or repaired? Learn more about my services at:-á https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3865379
Haka Kakinen State War Academy Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.04.11 13:09:00 - [25] - Quote Captain StringfellowHawk wrote: Only if like with the other Implants they reduce the effectiveness of the Drone system. Much like they did with Omni's etc. If Drone implants came to the game then the drones itself should be reduced in effectiveness to balance the implants coming into the game. Drones are already one of the most powerful weapon systems in the game and I love my drone boats to death. But something has to give for something to be added. The tracking and DPS for drone systems are amazing and outclass all other weapon systems where it comes to hull usage. A vexor can put out the same DPS as a Battleship. Vexor can put out same DPS as a Battleship ? with drones only ? please show me the fit

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