Watch people blow themselves up on the undocks of trade-hubs... or next to mining operations... or add extra damage to a target when dying to CONCORD.

NO, you cant blow yourself up. It only happens if you are destroyed by outside forces.

Watch people blow themselves up on the undocks of trade-hubs... or next to mining operations... or add extra damage to a target when dying to CONCORD.

NO, you cant blow yourself up. It only happens if you are destroyed by outside forces.

So get a friend to blow you up. Same difference.

And you would do that because?

You would lose a valubale ship for the lulz?

Maybe you dont understand what Im getting at.

Blow up a shuttle...small boom. Very little collateral damage.

Blow up a battleship...big boom. Significant collateral damage.

So tell me again why would you want someone to blow up your battleship?

And you would do that because?

You would lose a valubale ship for the lulz?

Maybe you dont understand what Im getting at.

Blow up a shuttle...small boom. Very little collateral damage.

Blow up a battleship...big boom. Significant collateral damage.

So tell me again why would you want someone to blow up your battleship?

That's why this is a bad idea.

NO, you cant blow yourself up.

so whats stopping me from getting 500 shuttles, putting them on the jita undock, and then popping them with TP fit tornadoes when a freighter undocks.

if the freighter doesnt die, it takes damage and CONCORD doesnt show up because the 500 shuttles and their pilots are in my corp.

now that weakened freighter can be ganked by 5 catalysts instead of 20.

cool. but show me the math where shuttle does one damage despite being target painted. and 1000 shuttles are cheaper than one fit catalyst

also explain to me why doing 500 damage to a ship is ok without CONCORDOKKEN repercussions. especially when i can bump a freighter and keep undocking 500 noob ships and warping on top of the freighter, and keep popping noob frigs until its dead, with no CONCORD response.

and then watch this to see how tiny a group 500 ppl is

why hammer the point home? cause ur way wrong. Way way wrong.

i had gotten the impression that size was a multiplier for damage

read the thread again, didnt read anywhere where it says shuttles do 1 damage...then there are noob ships that are free. and blowing even frigs up without any concord response would be silly.

if warping ontop of eachother was changed, it would not suddenly make this idea practical.

If you read Cekle Skyscales's post, the math is already done (and target painting does not affect structure HP). Also, by the time you blow up those 500 shuttles and get another 500 out, that freighters shields would have replenished the damage, making it impractical. It would take about 140000 Shuttles blowing up at once to take down a Freighter with this mechanic. That is a cost of about 2.1B Isk. 20 catalysts are cheaper.

Although the idea has other flaws and this point is mute.

My math assumes pure damage, that resistances of any kind were not applied. Given that it is a ship exploding, I would assume explosive damage would be the type applied. Note that explosive damage is heavily absorbed by shields inherently.

structured fleet formations would however.

so if we got structured fleets u'd be ok with players putting shuttles onto station undocks to blow up other ships?

No it's not. It adds to the immersion.

Your billions of isk will soon disappear if you dedicate yourself to blowing up your own orcas in the hopes of getting something of value from surrounding ships.

I said collateral damage, not collateral destruction. Blowing up an orca next to my Industrial may lower the shields and some armor but not destroy my ship...while you just lost an orca.

But a battleship in a dogfight may be vulnerable if it's shields and armor are already compromised.

Get a freighter.
Insure it.
Put a killright on it with your alt, let someone buy the killright for the remaining value that isn't covered by insurance.

Result: free freighter explosion on the jita undock. Many small ships die.

Now that is a lagit point. Thank you for adding to the conversation. As I said from the start though: This is not a good idea, as there are lots of flaws, I am just playing devils advocate here. An immunity to targets that are not leagle maybe? I do not beleave ccp would do that ether however. A "smart bomb" effect that only works in low sec? But then we are back to non realism.

Off topic: why does CCP Spell check say "leagle" and "beleave" are spelled wrong? I checked the spelling on both.