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Budrick3
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
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Posted - 2014.04.05 13:01:00 -
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I will preface the start of this by stating that companies should always look for additional revenue resources to further themselves. But in the next breath, I believe CCP is going about it all the wrong way.
There might be excitement currently for the new ship skins, but I believe it will be shortly lived. With plex prices already fairly high, the proposed aurum market looks less and less appealing for new and old players (never was terribly exciting to begin with). Rather than charging players, I believe CCP should have added these skins via the LP store generating more interest to play the game and growing new comers. The argument for Eve is that it has a tendency to get stale after a while, and though these new features are awesome, they quickly lose momentum after learning there is a cost involved.
It will be interesting to see a comparison of income from the introduction of this new skin model and its future success one year from now. Similar to buying clothing for your character, it seems to be a one trick pony and a loss of resources, time, and revenue for the company as time progresses.
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Salvos Rhoska
989
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Posted - 2014.04.05 13:03:00 -
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Terrible as it sounds, Im sure another single Monocle at insane real money price, would have earned them bucketloads more than the entire paintjob project.
People like to buy exclusive stuff, both for themselves as treats, and for their friends for birthdays etc.
And complaints would have been minimal. I mean its no skin off anyone elses nose if someguy has the money to sport a trendy monocle. ------------ |

Hevymetal
POT Corp Semper Ardens Alliance
236
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Posted - 2014.04.05 13:11:00 -
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ANYTHING CCP can do to increase cashflow is fair game to them.
It is working at the moment, people are buying, so don't expect change. |

WASPY69
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
234
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Posted - 2014.04.05 13:18:00 -
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Somebody mentioned monocles? |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3082
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Posted - 2014.04.05 14:44:00 -
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If this game gets stale for you, either you arent doing it right or its not the game for you, sorry old bean. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Rovinia
Exotic Dancers Union SONS of BANE
229
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Posted - 2014.04.05 14:57:00 -
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There is a ++ Dev Blog ++ about it. The skins in the "Nex Store" are only for starters. If the Ship painting pilot programm is a success, other skins which you only can get through ingame-actions will follow. |

Budrick3
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
29
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Posted - 2014.04.05 15:19:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:If this game gets stale for you, either you arent doing it right or its not the game for you, sorry old bean.
Thanks for contributing something productive to the conversation. I didn't know we were comparing epeen sizes here. You are a 2013 character which tremendous experience, IGÇÖm a lowly 2008 character losing my vision. Hence I have cataracts in my eyes.
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Rainbow Dash
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
101
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Posted - 2014.04.05 15:31:00 -
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I'm interested in how you think ship skins will convince new players to start playing eve. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3082
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Posted - 2014.04.05 15:31:00 -
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Budrick3 wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:If this game gets stale for you, either you arent doing it right or its not the game for you, sorry old bean. Thanks for contributing something productive to the conversation. I didn't know we were comparing epeen sizes here. You are a 2013 character which tremendous experience, IGÇÖm a lowly 2008 character losing my vision. Hence I have cataracts in my eyes.
You certainly rp a blind old man tired of life very well
Yes Im clearly not a cyno alt 
But please use your whole 4 years of experience to explain how clothes for my ship provide more content than trying something you havent done yet. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Budrick3
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
29
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Posted - 2014.04.05 15:40:00 -
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Rainbow Dash wrote:I'm interested in how you think ship skins will convince new players to start playing eve.
I believe there is added excitment for the opportunity to customize your ship to your personal tastes. The game is starting to get a free to play characteristic with time passing and the kicker of a subscription.
My arguement is that it is a potential turn off to new and old players alike and could lose the demographic.
Excitement is lost when the new content has a price associated to it. |
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Rainbow Dash
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
101
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Posted - 2014.04.05 15:45:00 -
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Budrick3 wrote:Rainbow Dash wrote:I'm interested in how you think ship skins will convince new players to start playing eve. I believe there is added excitment for the opportunity to customize your ship to your personal tastes. The game is starting to get a free to play characteristic with time passing and the kicker of a subscription. My arguement is that it is a potential turn off to new and old players alike and could lose the demographic. Excitement is lost when the new content has a price associated to it.
You're not eliminating the price though, just changing it. Literally the only thing shifting from AUR to LP does is make it so CCP doesn't make money. |

Budrick3
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
29
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Posted - 2014.04.05 15:49:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Budrick3 wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:If this game gets stale for you, either you arent doing it right or its not the game for you, sorry old bean. Thanks for contributing something productive to the conversation. I didn't know we were comparing epeen sizes here. You are a 2013 character which tremendous experience, IGÇÖm a lowly 2008 character losing my vision. Hence I have cataracts in my eyes. You certainly rp a blind old man tired of life very well Yes Im clearly not a cyno alt  But please use your whole 6 years of experience to explain how clothes for my ship provide more content than trying something you havent done yet.
Nice catch on your edit there. I was gonna make fun of you for your lack of adding skills for coming up with 4 years.
Clothes, skins, whatever you want to call it is additional content to the game. Whether you feel this is of value is up to personal opinion. I fail to see your point young bean.
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1599
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Posted - 2014.04.05 15:57:00 -
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I REALLY want CCP to introduce ship customization, I just hope they dont go about it the wrong way. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3085
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Posted - 2014.04.05 15:59:00 -
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Budrick3 wrote:
Nice catch on your edit there. I was gonna make fun of you for your lack of adding skills for coming up with 4 years.
Clothes, skins, whatever you want to call it is additional content to the game. Whether you feel this is of value is up to personal opinion. I fail to see your point young bean.
lol yeah Im not very good at maths Ill admit that
Fair enough, I will concede your point, though what I was sort of getting at is that I cant imagine ever running out of things to do in this game
But yeah, soz and all *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Starbuck05
Evil Monkey Asylum Evil Monkeys Asylum
167
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Posted - 2014.04.05 16:07:00 -
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One good thing about playing in low settings, i don't have to worry about paint jobs cause i can't see em anyway...that beeing said , the rise in plex prices has me iritated aswell -á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir ! -á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ?? |

RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
232
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Posted - 2014.04.05 16:17:00 -
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Look I painted a ship.... one person claps in a crowded room. |

Fujiko MaXjolt
ACME HARDWARE
7
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Posted - 2014.04.05 16:52:00 -
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WASPY69 wrote:Somebody mentioned monocles?
DUDE ! Your FACE !!!    |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
577
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Posted - 2014.04.05 16:54:00 -
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Budrick3 wrote:I will preface the start of this by stating that companies should always look for additional revenue resources to further themselves. But in the next breath, I believe CCP is going about it all the wrong way.
There might be excitement currently for the new ship skins, but I believe it will be shortly lived. With plex prices already fairly high, the proposed aurum market looks less and less appealing for new and old players (never was terribly exciting to begin with).
Rather than charging players, I believe CCP should have added these skins via the LP store generating more interest to play the game and growing new comers. The argument for Eve is that it has a tendency to get stale after a while, and though these new features are awesome, they quickly lose momentum after learning there is a cost involved.
It will be interesting to see a comparison of income from the introduction of this new skin model and its future success one year from now. Similar to buying clothing for your character, it seems to be a one trick pony and a loss of resources, time, and revenue for the company as time progresses.
What part of it being a pilot program didn't you get, they verry clearly said that, given enough interest they would be introducing an isk/lo method of attaining ship skins.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1213
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Posted - 2014.04.05 17:05:00 -
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So Op obviously has 50 Police Comets right? To show CCP that they only support LP skins & not Aur skins? |

Budrick3
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
29
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Posted - 2014.04.05 17:27:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:So Op obviously has 50 Police Comets right? To show CCP that they only support LP skins & not Aur skins?
challenge accepted. |
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Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
204
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Posted - 2014.04.05 17:31:00 -
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Budrick3 wrote:I will preface the start of this by stating that companies should always look for additional revenue resources to further themselves. But in the next breath, I believe CCP is going about it all the wrong way.
There might be excitement currently for the new ship skins, but I believe it will be shortly lived. With plex prices already fairly high, the proposed aurum market looks less and less appealing for new and old players (never was terribly exciting to begin with).
Rather than charging players, I believe CCP should have added these skins via the LP store generating more interest to play the game and growing new comers. The argument for Eve is that it has a tendency to get stale after a while, and though these new features are awesome, they quickly lose momentum after learning there is a cost involved.
It will be interesting to see a comparison of income from the introduction of this new skin model and its future success one year from now. Similar to buying clothing for your character, it seems to be a one trick pony and a loss of resources, time, and revenue for the company as time progresses.
I have nothing against AUR as a sort of "premium currency" I have nothing against ship skins or clothes that can be bough with AUR.
But I am against the link between PLEX and AUR as it is pointless at this moment since you can already buy AUR tokens directly. The link between PLEX and AUR belongs to an old and outdated business model whose inception was back in Incarna.
AUR should be disconnected from PLEX purely because the connection is damaging the PLEX market directly. You can already buy AUR with cash. You can already trade AUR tokens for ISK on the market. Then why does the PLEX -> AUR link still exist? It's time: Disconnect PLEX to AUR conversion.You can read more details at the "Features & Ideas" forum thread here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4439504#post4439504Please support if you like the idea or post the downsides if you don't. |

JC Anderson
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1068
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Posted - 2014.04.05 19:59:00 -
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This has been a highly requested feature for quite some time now. So I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being received fairly well. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
11870
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Posted - 2014.04.05 20:35:00 -
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WTB Megathron pony skin.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
3529
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Posted - 2014.04.05 21:35:00 -
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@OP
Your entire premise around your argument is that those things can only be bought with Real Money.
You can use your ISK you made ingame. Why spend Real Money when pretend money can buy you the same thing? "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. He flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. His hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. It was truly majestic. And while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off. Because I am like that." - NEONOVUS |

Goa Chai
86
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Posted - 2014.04.05 21:47:00 -
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Some of the skins look alright, the Aliastra skins are my current favorites (Kaalakiota skins for Gallente ships trlol) but I'll wait until something like this becomes possible.
A Megathron hull with a flame job would look pretty sweet too. |

Black Canary Jnr
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch. Sev3rance
100
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Posted - 2014.04.05 21:55:00 -
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I just want alliance logos on ships so we can look kick ass! |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11031
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Posted - 2014.04.05 21:55:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:WTB Megathron pony skin.
I would still love it. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Muestereate
Minions LLC
280
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Posted - 2014.04.05 22:18:00 -
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Comet skin only skin, has nothing to do with LP |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1601
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Posted - 2014.04.05 22:24:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:WTB Megathron pony skin.
I would still love it.
Baltecs love for Megas will overcome all obstacles. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
634
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:43:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Terrible as it sounds, Im sure another single Monocle at insane real money price, would have earned them bucketloads more than the entire paintjob project.
People like to buy exclusive stuff, both for themselves as treats, and for their friends for birthdays etc.
And complaints would have been minimal. I mean its no skin off anyone elses nose if someguy has the money to sport a trendy monocle.
That worked so well last time that they had to fire 20% of the company
Black Canary Jnr wrote:I just want alliance logos on ships so we can look kick ass!
Pemises. Penises everywhere. PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game http://i.imgur.com/RX8oBRN.jpg |
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