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Noluck Ned
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Posted - 2006.05.08 13:52:00 -
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Edited by: Noluck Ned on 08/05/2006 14:00:16 I had kind of hoped that I could use them to repair my own ship but it looks like only objects which can be targetted can be repped. Since I cant lock myself its only corpmates and my own drones.
Am I missing something? I can see em being useful for support but I had kind of hoped that they could be used to carry my tank the xtra mile in an emergency.
If there is a way and I am too dumb to find it please speak up.
Added in edit: Anybody know anything about the EW drones, I cant help but notice that the "Heavy" Webber drone only webs for 30%. Anybody have experience with the webbers, Dampners and Scrambler drones? Oh and do existing skills in EW affect your drone performance?
I could start training ew drone operation tommorrow,but I would love to know if its worth the effort.
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.05.08 13:57:00 -
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Bring a friend, target each other and and repair each other. I think that is what happened in that Caldari championship some months ago and the team that employed that tactic won that specific battle. ___________________
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Noluck Ned
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Posted - 2006.05.09 07:46:00 -
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Not quite the answer I was looking for.
Can anyone think of a reason that your repair drones should NOT be allowed to repair their controller?
Also, does anyone out there know anything about the EW drones?
I can live with not being able to repair myself but it somehow seems illogical that you can target anything else...including the enemy, but not yourself.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.05.09 07:50:00 -
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They follow two basics in EVE: 1) They are logistics drones. 2) Logistics equipment only work on targets.
If you could use them on yourself, it would be kinda imbalancing as many ships have no or only only a very small drone bay. --*=*=*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |

Oro Masut
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Posted - 2006.05.09 07:53:00 -
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Edited by: Oro Masut on 09/05/2006 07:53:02 Only thing i know is that repper drones cannot rep their controller. I agree, that it does not make sense and i don't know if it is "working as intended". Personally i doubt that it would imbalance things, since most drone carriers rely for their dps mostly on their drones. Thus bringing out repper drones, cuts your dps while increasing your survivability.
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Dimitri Chandler
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Posted - 2006.05.09 07:54:00 -
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They are exceptionally useful. Especially when you accidentally repair the enemy by mistake.  Exiles recruiting
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2006.05.09 10:13:00 -
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I think the main reason they cant repair their controler is because of how they are implemented.
I cant say for sure but to me it seems like CCP did the easy thing and simply used the remote repair system to implement the repair drones. The remote repair system is likewise illogical as you need a hostile lock to be able to use it.
Hopefully CCP will sometime soon(TM) overhaul the targeting system of EvE allowing for both agressive locks and assistance links.
Till then we will simply have to live with odd effects such as repair drones not repairing its controler.
An idea that you can forward to CCP is that idle repair drones will repair the controler if he is damaged, as telling a drone to return and orbit will make it idle this will give the owner a way to order the drone to repair the controller.
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Noluck Ned
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Posted - 2006.05.09 11:49:00 -
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Thanks Fester
That was a good idea.
I mean I cant think of a single good reason for repper drones NOT to be able to repair their controller. I mean I can repair one of my drones with another of my drones, I just dont see why t shouldent be taken one step further.
On the other hand fitting my domi solidly for support to our damage dealers might also be an option, I am sure that our Raven Pilots would love being orbitted by 5 flying shield boosters, while I fill my mids with EWar.
Ah well, Back to training Heavy Drones 5....Ogre II's coming soo.....in the near future.
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Glyn Davish
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Posted - 2006.05.09 12:04:00 -
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http://myeve.eve-online.com/updates/knownissues.asp
"Drones will sometimes attack gangmates when they run out of hostile targets."
Annoying, to say the least.
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.05.09 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: Fester Addams Hopefully CCP will sometime soon(TM) overhaul the targeting system of EvE allowing for both agressive locks and assistance links.
Would be useful, especially if you are in a carrier, mothership or logistics cruiser. Assistance locks should be instant but you can only use remote modules ment to assist the person you are locked on.
Originally by: Fester Addams An idea that you can forward to CCP is that idle repair drones will repair the controler if he is damaged, as telling a drone to return and orbit will make it idle this will give the owner a way to order the drone to repair the controller.
That is a good workaround with the current system in place, actually. Just make sure it only works with logistics drones and not Ewar or combat drones.  ___________________
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Tessa Vaako
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Posted - 2006.05.09 14:40:00 -
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Edited by: Tessa Vaako on 09/05/2006 14:40:53 After my inital annoyance when I discovered you couldn't repair yourself with these, I thought about it for a bit.
Can you imagine the tank you could get with a flight of haevy reppers around yourself?
Without skills, that's 60 damage a second thats being repped by 5x heavy drones. A tank doesn't cost you cap and potentionally frees slots for other tank/gank items.
Consider the case of a lone 'thron getting a free 60 damage/second rep.
Would you really want to face that? -- The Future is Exciting.
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.05.09 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Tessa Vaako Consider the case of a lone 'thron getting a free 60 damage/second rep.
Would you really want to face that?
Yes, because I can target and destroy those drones with my own drones before I attack that guy.  ___________________
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FluffySquirrel
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Posted - 2006.05.10 21:31:00 -
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And he also doesn't have 5 ogres tearing through your shields and armour
And to answer a question from ages back.. I can't see much point in those heavy webber drones.. .. cause assuming they stack as normal.. a whole 5 of them do less effective webbing than you could get from a fleeting webber (maybe an X5 too.. can't recall the exact figure it was)
Either way... it ain't worth losing attack power of 5 heavies..
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.05.10 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sovy Kurosei
Originally by: Tessa Vaako Consider the case of a lone 'thron getting a free 60 damage/second rep.
Would you really want to face that?
Yes, because I can target and destroy those drones with my own drones before I attack that guy. 
They orbit him in scoop range no?
It would be an interesting exercise in drone management though
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Hunters Presence
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Posted - 2006.05.10 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sovy Kurosei
Originally by: Tessa Vaako Consider the case of a lone 'thron getting a free 60 damage/second rep.
Would you really want to face that?
Yes, because I can target and destroy those drones with my own drones before I attack that guy. 
That's very circumstantial though. For example, it'd effectively eliminate sniping and the usefulness of all the ships associated with it. That's just the first example that popped into my head. -----
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.05.10 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Hunters Presence That's very circumstantial though. For example, it'd effectively eliminate sniping and the usefulness of all the ships associated with it. That's just the first example that popped into my head.
Well, you can snipe the drones, no? I wouldn't know, I don't use long range guns or am able to fly any battleships for that matter.
Originally by: Deja Thoris They orbit him in scoop range no?
It would be an interesting exercise in drone management though
Now that I think about it, yeah, it would probably be a very frustrating battle that would drag on for an hour. Especially if both parties are using drones to repair their shields or armor. ___________________
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Han Grit
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Posted - 2006.05.11 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: FluffySquirrel I can't see much point in those heavy webber drones.. .. cause assuming they stack as normal.. a whole 5 of them do less effective webbing than you could get from a fleeting webber (maybe an X5 too.. can't recall the exact figure it was)
On the other hand, you don't need to stay within 10km of the target to keep it webbed and could have 5 partially webbed targets followed anywhere within control range. Probably useless working solo of course. Maybe useful to help your gang mate who's just deployed his sentry drones 30km away ?
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