Gila changes make me sad.

Forcing ships into ultra specific niche is just awful.

I mean, Gila was an excellent ship in many situation before. It was a decent small gang ship, excellent in WH's for clearing certain sites, was a poor mans Ishtar for someone unable to fly them yet in Ishtar gangs.

And now... Ew. Medium drones are incredibly poor PvP above a few people, It can't field a single heavy or sentry drone, and not even a full flight of smalls, and those would be unbonused.

Will be easily kited to death by a t1 frigate able to outrun slow mediums, and a 500% bonus to drone HP won't save them if a cruiser sized hull decides to pop drones. 4x the health of paper is still paper. And when one pops, you lose the vast majority of your dps.


Just ew. Bleeeh. Need to go sell my WH site fit Gila to people who don't read dev blogs before summer hits.

I honestly don't know what you have against the Guristas ships...

Well I will simply never use my gila again.

Edit : I don't ever use my gila it's so bad already. I guess I'll just continue to never use my gila.

Good work as ever (SARCASM)

Edit : Concerns over Gila

1. Far less damage
2. Inability to use sentry drones.
3. Removal of all shield tanking sentry ships (cruiser class) from the game.
4. Massive lack of adaptability.
5. Un-bonused light drones.

In short - You have nerfed the gila, which was admittedly already one of the worst pirate cruisers.

I think thus sums it up nicely. Whether this holds for the Rattlesnake remains to be seenGǪ I'll be ecstatic with just the missile damage bonus.

No, they were inferior versions of the gallente T1 and T2 drone boats but with shields instead of armour.

And another idiot joins the block list...

No, they were inferior versions of the gallente T1 and T2 drone boats but with shields instead of armour.

You should really go back and actually read some of my posts and those of others. If you think these changes force the Gila and RS into 'niche' roles, then it's because you lack the skill and imagination to do great things with them. That's your problem, not the devs who you are so quick to insult.

Try improving yourself before spewing petty hatred at the devs and crying on the forums.

So wrong and so dumb. Senty+cruise MJD rattlesnake far better and more versatile at doing lvl 4 missions than any gallente T2.

I guess it is unreasonable to expect the plebs to know how to play.

And no, I'm not blocking you because you share a different viewpoint. I'm blocking you because you can't make it without behaving like a child.

No, they were inferior versions of the gallente T1 and T2 drone boats but with shields instead of armour.

You should really go back and actually read some of my posts and those of others. If you think these changes force the Gila and RS into 'niche' roles, then it's because you lack the skill and imagination to do great things with them. That's your problem, not the devs who you are so quick to insult.

Try improving yourself before spewing petty hatred at the devs and crying on the forums.

No, they were inferior versions of the gallente T1 and T2 drone boats but with shields instead of armour.

Lol. Contradictory much?

T2: More specialised, not necessarily better. Do you really think that everybody who flies a T1 battleship is only doing so because they can't fly a maurauder or black ops?

well they are trying too give them all a uniqueness .. like the serpentis.. at the end of the day you already have Navy for what you want .. these are navy with a twist ... we want uniqueness would be nice if we got unique models too go with them ..

CCP Rise quote in another thread - "for those who don't like it there are alternatives"

Hey Rise, if this is your best, i'm sorry but i think you must try harder;
maibe i missed it, but i didn't see any answer from you regarding gila, and there are allot of concerns and allot of players saying that this "reballance" will cripple and already inferior ship;
so, can we have some thoughts?

if all goes as planned, they'll listen to your outcry, then decide that it's stupid and disregard it. your complaints are meant to actually be valid if they're to have an effect.

No one seems to be complaining about the loss of the 50% range bonus on missiles. Neither am I, that has always seemed like an unnecessary bonus on these ships that didn't fit with any of my uses for them.

damage-bonused cruise will probably .

oh no. they can't give the snake a bonus to sentries, because then it would overlap with the dominix

so the snake will get 2 super heavy drones
because that doesn't overshadow other ship lines


that logic was the Dev's btw not mine, on why the gila got 2 mediums - because Ishtar

and people don't understand why it's such a stupid, ******, fuckwit change

I've got a better ideaGǪ Since the Gurista ships now grant a Gallente missile bonus, let's just drop the drones and make these missile boats. Give them another 2 launchers and a +50% missile velocity role bonus. I would then welcome our new Gurista overlords...

not sure if the code can support this change but why not limit gurista ships to just 2 hardcapped drones launched ie
worm - 2 lights
gila - 2 lights or 2 meds
rattler - 2 lights or 2 meds or 2 heavys
wouldn't that fix most of the complains ?

To those of you who keep saying a drone boat that can use all the drones is overlapping the Ishtar (that includes you DEVs), I say a drone boat that can use all the drones does not an overlap make.

It's a drone boat, a Guristas, missile slinging brick ****house of a shield-tanking drone boat. It should be able to use all the drones just as effectively as any other drone boat.

Just because a Vigilant uses medium hybrid turrets, that doesn't mean it "overlaps" the Deimos, and so we should give it one gun that does 1000% more damage to make it different.

Subtle differences in ships are difference enough for me. I never called for anyone to change the Ishtar because it's too close in capability to the Gila, even though it's often considered "superior." How would you like to see the Ishtar lose access to sentry drones and full flights of... anything?

Why should I have to roll over and be either forced into a different role or told to 'please consider another option, thanks!' other than my favorite ship.

No.
Your balance concept, is over simplistic, lazy and just plain wrong. you may believe it, but apply a little real thought to the issue, and you may realise that. One neat little soundbite does not make for a valid concept, It does not allow one to cease to think and wave away realities. No matter how often or loudly it is spoken.

Like I have said multiple times.

The Vigilant which is already a an expensive ship to fit properly is also very rarely flown. All they are doing it making it less worth while to fly. So it will be less seen then it already is.

CCP Rise has not responded and I doubt they will reserve it. So much for so called balancing.