OP, imagine you have 2 scoops of Mint Chocolate Chip Ice Cream but there's hairs and dirt in it. Would you prefer the store gives you an extra scoop of Cookies n' Cream, or removes the hairs and dirt?

Well if thats your opinion then fine. But 3 expansions in a row of it and nothing decent otherwise is not good. and im sorry but when you played for many years, just tweaks doesnt really make the game feel any different or better.

I am happy to be corrected. Please show me the stats, the graph looks pretty much the same if not less than 5 years ago. Please check my history numb nuts instead of trying that npc alt crap. Its boring.

Please dont just make this yet another tweak and balance expansion, this will be a third in a row! I honestly hope there are big stuff happening because i just cant sub again if there isnt

Now this is your opinion, and I have mine. My gamplay and expectations is not the same of yours. So please don't assume that what you want is not what everyone else wants.

Yes the tweaks are good, however you tweak one thing you hurt another. So in some cases the tweaks helped but in other they killed off things. So lets take a look at what these 'tweaks killed'

Incursions - not like they used to be at all, people hardly do them, just because people complained about the ISK. So what. It generated lots of content and lots of people got involved.

Stuff they rebalanced actually killed off a lot of ships. How much do you see BS gangs now? How much do you see command ships on the field after the CS change? How many T2 small/med gangs do you see? How many electronic warfare ships do you see in fleets? (kitsunes etc). You dont. So where they made T1 buffs they killed others. FW is just frig warfare now and some cruisers but that's it.

Solo pvp is pretty much dead now. Unless your willing to multibox 5 characters and hunt around forever. Or as above you have to just fight in frigs!

0.0 no longer have the 30-50 man roaming gangs anymore, its just completely blob warfare, and supers and caps now.

Please dont think that all the tweaks have actually made a huge difference they havent. People also want to see new stuff, new content, new features its been 2 years now and nothing major has been released. Sorry for me as a vet I need to see and have new content to play with, because everything else I have done. I want to do or try something different.

Even if they dont create complete new stuff then start making the current stuff more interesting, more interactive. For example missions are boring as hell, npcs are just pictures with text, why cant we have actual voice overs and interaction? That would make a huge difference to missions.

If you are happy with the tweaks then fine, happy for you. But I am also entitled to want something else also. Im sorry but 2 years of tweaks is imo pretty poor.

Perhaps if we stop calling these patches "an expansion" CCP will start to create actual expansion?...

Incursions are just as popular, CCP showed the stats in a dinsdale ragenoght about matauders.

t2 frigs and cruisers are widely used, you can even find solo sentinels in low sec with assault frigs and cepters used everywhere and bombers get used everywhere from solo hunting to alliance strat ops.

Small roaming gangs are everywhere in null, we lose several hundred ships to them every month.

Battleships are the primary ship for frontline work in near all powerblocks. They are also good for both small gangs and solo work.

Well if thats your opinion then fine. But 3 expansions in a row of it and nothing decent otherwise is not good. and im sorry but when you played for many years, just tweaks doesnt really make the game feel any different or better.

I can only assume you have some sort of mental issue. The tweaks they have made have radically altered the game and the sips everyone flys. Not to mention all the news ships, modules, deployables and mechanics they added in along side them. Do you pay any attention to patch notes at all?

To be honest I would be in favor of CCP skipping an expansion after this and dedicating that entire year of EVE dev time to a single thing; break open the legacy code, fix every single damn thing that wasn't able to be fixed because of it, then put the legacy code on a hard drive and throw it into Eyjafjallaj+¦kull with a helicopter. A seat on the helicopter would cost 100 PLEX and the honor of throwing the hard drive would cost 250 PLEX (includes a nice little badge on your character bio; killer of the legacy!).

EVE would be fixed for the foreseeable future and new content is created at the same time. Hurrah.

(Totally serious about this, Devs. Do it!)

The problem with this is that many people have lost faith in CCP to deliver anything of this magnitude, their past record of delivering major expansions isn't what you call great.

I suspect it would more of less kill Eve.

You mean one of those WOW expansions that adds entire new land masses and monsters, new classes & skills


Of course the cost of those land masses is that every single item you own is now useless.
Every single build now needs reworking.
Every single Raid Comp needs a new design.
And doing any of the already existing content becomes useless.

So WOW style expansions actually normally shrink the game, not expand it because they make more & more content obsolete.
EVE tries to keep all content relevant so the addition of a single item which doesn't destroy others is actually a larger expansion than anything WOW or any theme park has ever released because every existing content piece is still relevant.

I'd rather they replace the ice cream for a new one, tossing the old one away. That way I can obtain a fresher, more easily edible form of POS management, I mean Ice Cream. After all, no matter how many hairs and dirt are cleaned out, it was still **** coding, i mean dirty ice cream, to begin with.

One of them is literally in the post right below mine hence E2. You are an npc alt which means you are completely worthless and should not be allowed to post, I do not care what explanation you have for this.

And bosses still do the same thing only the area/damage/timer changes. WoW is about learning to dodge in proper moment, and pushing buttons in correct order. What makes WoW look like it is actually a game is the fact that people manage to fail on both numerous times in a row. And then they rage because the fight is too hard (imo - not playing is the easiest way to not encounter problems in game).

I'm fairly new player, but I'm content with what they are doing. I also think eve has a niche on the market and will generally attract new people.

They should however improve the tutorials because they do not cover many parts of the game.

I've been playing for 18 months, and I'm so boooored.

It's all I can do to log in for 5 minutes, check skill que to confirm that whatever it is I am training for is still going to take weeks, then ship spin for 5 minutes and log off and play Planetside 2 or World of Tanks.

If I do actually quit, then yes I will give my stuff away.

Im not here to play goons online. Also i guess a few thousand people that have unsubbed have a different opinion also then eh? i guess your opinion is the only one that matters? That's fine if you dont agree with me.
Yes some of the major feature stuff was unfinished, so we should just stop doing them? Perhaps CCP should just do them properly perhaps?


Yes the balances have help like t1 ships but its also spoilt the game as now things like FW is just frig warfare mainly. Lots of the ships in the middle are not used in gangs like we used to. So its actually had a detrimental effect.

So we will have had almost 2 years of just tweaks and balances and you think that will keep and bring more people to the game? Why dont you stop thinking about what you want, and think about that the game needs?

Improve FW
Overhaul 0.0 - people have been crying out for this for ages
Bring in new content
add more nullsec npc space

Well if thats your opinion then fine. But 3 expansions in a row of it and nothing decent otherwise is not good. and im sorry but when you played for many years, just tweaks doesnt really make the game feel any different or better.