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Khaneee	Posted - 2006.05.09 23:21:00 - [61] Originally by: Eris Discordia I have stairs gb2gbs
Kainda Gordo	Posted - 2006.05.09 23:22:00 - [62] we have a similar yet rather scaled down situation right now in the ushra'khan. I am the ceo of a small training corp dedicated to recruiting and training up brand new pilots. I have reached my 40 pilot limit in two weeks and am franticly training up the next level as we speak. 1pg and Pie are mid sized/small corps full of very experienced members (+ a few token n00bs) They have some very good pvp'ers and are great at skirmish warfare. Ushra'khan on the other hand recently lost a core pvp guys (all joined BoB of all places ) 1pg/Pie come to our home system almost every day without fail. They always get a few kills, but if they bring anything bigger than a frigate it rarely leaves the system alive. I guess what i'm saying is that a corp full of eager new pilots is a force to be reaconed with. New players have very little to lose and the motivation to gain a whole heck of a lot. Provide them with enoug direction and focus and you can do great things Ushra'Khan Now Recruiting
Trepkos	Posted - 2006.05.10 00:09:00 - [63] Originally by: Darth Maule From what I have been reading for some time the GF have an attribute I admire.It seem they are relentless which is what you have to be in any game to eventualy win a conflict.I came from a hard core PvP game and I understand the single minded relentless mind set that is needed for winning long conflicts. Necromungers Your corp name is ew x10. -------- Angel Deep Corporation
Rattman	Posted - 2006.05.10 00:29:00 - [64] Goonfleet atm dont appear to be a real threat to sovrignty of any alliances, they dont have the BS or dreads to take out the POS. This will change as more and more of em get into battleships and they start to produce more of them. They wont have much of an effect on somewhere with POS, but areas that have npcs station ie stain/curse/fountain when they have access to fitting/manufactoring and docking they could cause massive damage to existing alliances. If I was in an genuine 0.0 corp/alliance that was looking for some new blood I would be looking to poach these guys, would be a pretty impressive combination, numbers of GF with the combat prowess of someone like MC I hope GF stay together and keep on trucking, eve really needs something like this. Still think they should call them selves the borg, funny if GF and the collective merged, we would have teh borg :) I am not a complete idiot, some parts are missing
Hell's Belle	Posted - 2006.05.10 02:44:00 - [65] Don't know why, but this made me think of Goonfleet. They're not bees, but...
Audrea	Posted - 2006.05.10 04:05:00 - [66] Originally by: Rattman Goonfleet atm dont appear to be a real threat to sovrignty of any alliances, they dont have the BS or dreads to take out the POS. This will change as more and more of em get into battleships and they start to produce more of them. They wont have much of an effect on somewhere with POS, but areas that have npcs station ie stain/curse/fountain when they have access to fitting/manufactoring and docking they could cause massive damage to existing alliances. If I was in an genuine 0.0 corp/alliance that was looking for some new blood I would be looking to poach these guys, would be a pretty impressive combination, numbers of GF with the combat prowess of someone like MC I hope GF stay together and keep on trucking, eve really needs something like this. Still think they should call them selves the borg, funny if GF and the collective merged, we would have teh borg :) And we would resist until the last shred of indviduality erased, all biological parts replacing with cybernetic implants.. or mabye not, what pilot resists free implants?! ---------------------------------------------- All my posts are my own opinions and dont not represent any organization until stated otherwise.
Trina Tron	Posted - 2006.05.10 08:11:00 - [67] Originally by: Eris Discordia Originally by: Overture Edited by: Overture on 09/05/2006 19:43:39 I dont think most of you realize what SomethingAwful is. I have stairs haha i rember when we figured that out back in the movie thread
Phelan Lore	Posted - 2006.05.10 08:33:00 - [68] Originally by: Hell's Belle Don't know why, but this made me think of Goonfleet. They're not bees, but...
Dekiri	Posted - 2006.05.10 08:54:00 - [69] Sometimes i really wonder if people really believe what they are babbling about. If you have ever played a real pvp game before Eve you should all know that it is not that much different, just that eve is set up better then most others. PvP is about persistance and supplies and if you have both in your members and overall you are a threat to everyone else. The fact that the goons are all gamers and many of them oldschool gamers makes then not "noob". In fact many of them are probably more "dangerous" with their experience then many of the "eve-veterans". I myself have pvped since UO beta and in many other games since then and when i see some of the self proclaimed veteran pvpers chat and talk i can only laugh at their ignorance. 90% of the "pvpers" i have encountered in eve are cannon fodder and the chance that goonfleet also has 90% cannon fodder is considering the history and the community of somethingawful highly unlikely. I am really curious how it will end if someone one day really brings a dirty war to eve that can be called war indeed and not a friendly pos destruction hit and run game. It will happen one day i am pretty sure and i really hope i will be around to watch=p ---------------------------------------- I am not an alt i am just young!(and hot)
Klaw Mydia	Posted - 2006.05.10 09:40:00 - [70] I'd just like to say as a new player to the game, that the people in charge in GF and the corp as a whole consist of some of the most helpful and considerate guys I could have hoped to be associated with. Everyone really goes out of their way to help each other out, both with material things in the game and alot of patience with training in the new players. I found a pretty universal feeling of comradery throughout the entire corp, and have since tried to repay in kind the generosity and patience shown to me in the beginning. If it wasnt for the kind of people in charge of this corp, all of the smack that people have said about what GF is/will be would probably be the case, but thankfully it is not. Im not saying that were a superpower or anything like that as of now, but there's alot of potential in the vets and the new guys just joining, and I at least plan to be in it for the long haul. And Im sure Im not the only goon to think that.
Von Kleist	Posted - 2006.05.10 09:46:00 - [71] ^wrong charecter, sorry. Don't post much
Avulsion	Posted - 2006.05.10 09:54:00 - [72] I don't think Goonfleet will have any trouble keeping their numbers up. As long as people keep attacking Goonfleet and trying to invade s-u, most of the players will stick around. Goonfleet owes most of its sucess to the people who keep trying to destroy them. Ratting/Missions/Mining starts to get pretty boring after a while, and then the next thing you know there's 10 billion isk worth of targets coming down the pipe. I know I had a blast during the last invasion, throwing kestrels at tech2 battlleships, camping the gate for a week, and the final assault POS was non-stop fun. I spent most of my free time that week sitting in front of my compter. As for strategery, don't pass off us Goons as 13 year old CS "Vets". The SA forums have standards to keep the really annoying idiots out, and a population of 70k+ mentally ill and/or criminally insane gamers. Creativity, imagination, and a ****ed up sense of humor are common traits in most goons. Out-of-box thinking is a specialty, from the oh so sublte "They outnumber us, so we're going to throw frigates at them until they go away" to "Hey, let's drop jetcans and use them as warp-to points to catch the snipers!" Goonfleet learns, adapts, and grows. Some of us former noobs are starting to outgrow our T1 frigates, I myself now fly a Scorpion most of the time (when I'm not busy exploding for no apparent reason). But rest assured, there will always be plenty of newbies in frigates ready to die for the glory of the Goonfleet. In fact, next month should see an influx of about 500 recruits, who will no doubt carry on the glorious traditions of Goonfleet like good little beeze. ------------- Most of my ideas are stupid, but the really dumb ones usually turn out to be kind of fun.
Swaffer	Posted - 2006.05.12 23:50:00 - [73] Edited by: Swaffer on 12/05/2006 23:50:59 Interesting thread, i feel that BOB could still take on Goonfleet with numbers of 1/10 Goons against. Bob have been round a very long time, BNC corp former members for NORAD and great fun was had in 4c PVPing before Goonfleet even exsisted, EVOL don't know much about them, but they have also been around a long long time, i would take a guess that a lot of the guys in BOB have around 30 million skill points each. The only problem BOB might have with any attack would be Goonfleets friends and influences, and also the fact that any attack in goon space invovles traveling down "PIPE SYSTEMS" one way in, one way out, easier to defend, difficult to get BS sized ships in. However, i would like to see such a fight, and if it kicks off let me know.
Tamala	Posted - 2006.05.13 00:37:00 - [74] Goonfleet's biggest advantage is practice. A lot of players start the game with expensive items and ships they've been twinked with and a wallet to match. They start playing defensively and continue along this path after they realise how expensive PvP is. This limits combat opportunities. Goonfleet, on the other hand, treat frigates like paper napkins. This means that even a three month old goonfleet pilot has potentially more PvP experience in a more concentrated timeframe than many pilots in established PvP alliances. This is what will make them a serious force to contend with. BoB's dominance has been down to their ability to concentrate considerable force on a target area swiftly and their communications. Goonfleet are practising the exact same skillset, but against players who relatively have both more skills and more experience. If Goonfleet develop a plan beyond "let's have a go at EVE" their closest neighbours are, to be honest, more humped than a mutant camel.
Professor Utonium	Posted - 2006.05.13 01:53:00 - [75] Originally by: Darcuese If i understude, Goons are friends from some kind of sociaty/game forum before EVE. Many of them came to EVE and offcourse join same corp/alliance as their friends. Atm, they work togather and fight togather all the time. Since EVE provide many different style of playing, i think, over time, Goons ambissions and wishies will devide a bit. They will meet many new ppl and make some new friends who will have influance on some of Goons to try different paths. So, over time 2000 + might become lot less. But , if not, i hope server will allow huge fights in incoming future Goonfleet are from the Somethingawful.com forums, whose membership refers to themselves as goons. IIRC you have to be a forum member ($10 registration fee) to join the goons.
Trevcakes	Posted - 2006.05.13 02:11:00 - [76] Originally by: Razor Jaxx The question is, will their members be quite as liberal losing ships and fittings that cost 1000x that of a t1-fitted t1 frig? No, most people aren't, but the numbers advantage works up the skilltree too. Cruisers are cheap. They cost no more than 10-15 million to fit with decent T1 stuff. And what's 10 million to you? Two T2 Large Armor Reps. The cruisers individually would get healthily trounced by the ships that do cost 1000x a T1/T1 Frigate, but if goonfleet steps up from blobbing in frigates to blobbing in cruisers, which is really not beyond 90% of the membership older than a week, the hurting is amplified by several orders of magnitude. Frigate blobs have proven to melt scorps in a matter of seconds. How quickly would T1 fitted blasteraxes, buzzsaw omens, duramallers, vexors, caracals or whatever do that?
Aldir Rundal	Posted - 2006.05.13 02:51:00 - [77] [obiwan]Use the Power of the Ibis blob young skywalker[/obiwan] Recruiting
splattercat	Posted - 2006.05.13 03:47:00 - [78] 2000+ players in ONE corp??.. Just think if thay wanted to take a POS down just useing frigs thay can send in the 1st 200, then when those 200 pods are warping back to get another frig the next 200 ect... i know it will never happen but id PAY A LOT to see em try..Be the most fun thing in eve EVER if thay did it
Swaffer	Posted - 2006.05.13 03:56:00 - [79] Originally by: splattercat 2000+ players in ONE corp??.. Just think if thay wanted to take a POS down just useing frigs thay can send in the 1st 200, then when those 200 pods are warping back to get another frig the next 200 ect... i know it will never happen but id PAY A LOT to see em try..Be the most fun thing in eve EVER if thay did it This has already happened, we had a large POS in there home system, first came about 100 frigs which left a lot of cargos behind, then came the 9 dreadnoughts, took them over 5 days to get it right and finally take down the POS though.
Queen Janet	Posted - 2006.05.13 05:03:00 - [80] Goonfleet's only weakness as it stands is skillpoints. As swaffer said, they built a POS in S-U. It didn't serve much purpose other than a glorified safespot, but GF couldn't take it down due to inability to field dreads. Anyone claiming that goonfleet is comprised of nothing but newbies without a shred of tactics has obviously never been on the recieving end of Cefte's rifter. The Reason Goonfleet works is because of the camraderie, many of them would mine for a week at 100% tax so that remedial could fill his carrier with Exotic Dancers without so much as a second thought. The corp respects it's members, and it's members respect eachother, primarily because they possess the ability to pay 10 Dollars to Richard Kyanka and not make a complete ass of themselves on the SomethingAwful forums, thus getting banned.(Which is a suprisingly and depressingly rare ability) I believe the average age of goonfleet is something like 27, with a fair number over 35, which gives them a maturity that a lot of the people here lack. This paragraph is incredibly disjointed but I'm tired. If I had to say, I'd say that goonfleet works for just a few reasons 1: It's not about EVE, it's about Goons 2: A complete and utter disdain for stupidity, which they feel every other corp in the game has more than enough of, so GoonFleet is a bastion of nonretardation and dramaramaing. 3: :10bux:
Zuper Phrend	Posted - 2006.05.13 15:25:00 - [81] Edited by: Zuper Phrend on 13/05/2006 15:29:51 Goonfleet's true power is in the fact that goons are everywhere. Goonfleet was merely the first organized gathering of goons in EVE. I wouldn't be surprised if BoB was penetrated at the top. We already know ISD is. I can't wait till 6 months from now, when there will be goon-based conspiracy theories. "PA FELL BECAUSE OF THE SECRET GOON CABAL" "Wasn't it because it was old and deterio--" "YOU ARE PART OF THEIR CABAL!!!11"
Kai Jyokoroi	Posted - 2006.05.14 01:43:00 - [82] Originally by: TWIGGER GoonFleet are BoB alts. BoB is the old farts,Goons are the young rascals. Best alt name EVER _____________ The day I receive my first moderator forum-sig hijack is the day I realise I have won Eve.
Frank Messiah	Posted - 2006.05.14 11:18:00 - [83] Originally by: splattercat 2000+ players in ONE corp??.. Just think if thay wanted to take a POS down just useing frigs thay can send in the 1st 200, then when those 200 pods are warping back to get another frig the next 200 ect... i know it will never happen but id PAY A LOT to see em try..Be the most fun thing in eve EVER if thay did it Zapp Brannigan style. Hopefully a POS has a kill limit.
Gr1mreaper	Posted - 2006.05.14 12:03:00 - [84] Edited by: Gr1mreaper on 14/05/2006 12:04:46 Edited by: Gr1mreaper on 14/05/2006 12:03:16 I have only been fighting goonfleet for a bit and whilst some of them may be 'nubs' but they do have thres characteristics that some of the larger more experienced alliences often lack 1) They mostly stand and fight. They do tend to blob up but its difficult not to when you have so many members 2) they don't smak in local (much) 3) they don't flame in this allience forum The now fallen FE did nothing but blob up or fight in shuttles neither of which is much fun imo. VICTORY WITHOUT INTEGRITY IS LOSS
Eximius Josari	Posted - 2006.05.14 17:50:00 - [85] I for one can't help but admire what it must take to pull off something like GoonFleet, esp while corps are restricted to 1300 members. Which is soon to change mainly because of Goonfleet. I can only hope that my plan will be as successful. ~Eximius Josari, Hegemon of the E.A.R.T.H. Federation
Lygos	Posted - 2006.05.15 04:59:00 - [86] If I had 2000 bees and I wanted them to stay happy bees making lots of honey, my first directive would be to make them all get -5.0 standing. Nothing breeds loyalty like the inability to return to empireland on a whim. Also, lots of uniformity on frig fittings like switching out all close range weapons to rails or artillery will cut down on downtime between targets, especially cepters. Assistive tactics will work massively well in the situations in which goons are rumored to often find themselves. Drilling certain tactics into players and knowing all of their setups ahead of time would be massively beneficial. Any large group of newish players is going to benefit far more from covops than t2 gear too. I'm sure GF has plenty of experienced vets to give them advice, I just hope they are willing to listen to them and put a lot of emphasis on defering to their recommendations. Dying alot is fun too tho.
Refeirg Atonmi	Posted - 2006.05.15 05:52:00 - [87] Originally by: Zuper Phrend "PA FELL BECAUSE OF THE SECRET GOON CABAL" "Wasn't it because it was old and deterio--" "YOU ARE PART OF THEIR CABAL!!!11" hahah this needs more love
Udath	Posted - 2006.05.15 07:49:00 - [88] First there was scorn. Now is interest, bordering on concern. Next is fear. Face it.
Autocon	Posted - 2006.05.15 13:00:00 - [89] Next is the smartbomb flash poping up frigs by pack of 10
Dan Gleeballs	Posted - 2006.05.15 14:26:00 - [90] Originally by: Khaneee Goonfleet also is unable to counter smartbombs. They have their top tacticians working on a countertactic but nothing sofar.[/quote Curses, he has got goonfleet there. Hmmm, curses, why is that seeming relevant to me? I just cant seem to bring it to mind. Phew, that's drained me, maybe Im not very smart after all. Dan

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