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Mrs Mayo
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:04:00 -
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Eve Radio has potentially been scamming the eve player base for a long while now.
The real life cash donations that they ask for live on air on a monthly basis to be made to the website is arguably not representative of the true cost of the station being able to continue to broadcast.
Despite being active in numerous games, Eve Radio fails to openly declare that they are part of a wider gaming network and do not necessarily rely on the real life cash donations they endeavour to get from the eve community, nor is it as i am led to believe, representative of the tue cost of keeping them on air.
If this were to be true. Where does the excess cash go and into whose wallet?
Scams in Eve you say?
This one potentially involves real life cash.
I was provided with good enough internet radio cross comparison cost information to consider making this allegation.
Outwith a response from Eve Radio it can't be discounted.
I assume if everything is above board then Eve Radio can and would be willing to provide evidence of why they ask the amount of real life cash they do from eve players on a monthly basis to remain on air?
If Eve Radio aren't willing to disclose this breakdown then outwith a legal context which can't be brought here, i'd urge you stop donating until they do - elsewise for all you know you are being scammed. |
Regan Rotineque
Arch Angels Assault Force
The Kadeshi
286
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:07:00 -
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adjusts tinfoil hat
puts on tinfoil pants
the rumor mongering is strong in this one |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
2609
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:12:00 -
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Hey, they have a person who plans on being on the CSM, who supports erotica1 and hates high sec.
Why not have the goon's support Eve radio? (even though they disavow any contact with erotica after they supposedly turfed him from goons)
Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning.
The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
1070
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:12:00 -
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Regan Rotineque wrote:adjusts tinfoil hat
puts on tinfoil pants
the rumor mongering is strong in this one
I've even heard a rumour that people have been asked to sing live on air.
Can't confirm it myself mind you, but outwith (???) an explanation, it's all very damning.
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Mrs Mayo
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:15:00 -
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Eve Radio ask for donations to keep them on air.
Surely the community has a right to see a breakdown or audit or our real life cash that they tell us is needed on a monthly basis?
No?  |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
1070
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:17:00 -
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Mrs Mayo wrote:No?
No.
If you make a donation the money no longer belongs to you and you have no right to demand an explanation of anything.
If you have concerns, then don't give them any money.
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
3564
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:19:00 -
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Nope they don't.
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. He flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. His hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. It was truly majestic. And while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off. Because I am like that." - NEONOVUS |
Regan Rotineque
Arch Angels Assault Force
The Kadeshi
286
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:22:00 -
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i think i would sing on EvE Radio if they asked me
im no Shirley Bassey but I have been known to hum a few bars of "This is my life"
and for those of you too young to know who she is
She is the only singer to do multiple James Bond opening numbers
She is amazing
Go to you tube and look her up - there is a great version of "This is My Life" a black and white version
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Mrs Mayo
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:27:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Mrs Mayo wrote:No? No. If you make a donation the money no longer belongs to you and you have no right to demand an explanation of anything. If you have concerns, then don't give them any money.
Eve Radio DJ's are not above the EULA.
I have asked Eve Radio to give a breakdown of the real life cash amount they ask for to keep the station on air on a monthly basis.
If there is nothing to hide then transparency to appease these requests shouldn't be difficult.
All i have suggested is absent audit, things might not be quite as they seem. |
Regan Rotineque
Arch Angels Assault Force
The Kadeshi
286
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:32:00 -
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I could also sing "I Who Have Nothing" another classic......
I would prefer doing "This is my life" ... but if push came to shove i could do the other....
I may have hit the sauce pretty heavy tonite as well |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2495
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:38:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:
I've even heard a rumour that people have been asked to sing live on air.
Can't confirm it myself mind you, but outwith an explanation, it's all very damning.
That is prima facie evidence of torture, child abuse, cyberbullying and terrorism right there.
Better get onto Ripard Teg about that, so that he can write quality journalism about it.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 --áPsychotic Monk for CSM!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Mrs Mayo
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:43:00 -
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If Eve Radio are not scamming real life cash then at there end it will be easy to prove of course.
I am only basing off information I have been provided.
Surely an entity who CCP affiliate themselves with via the time codes should have to validate the amount of real life cash they ask for from eve players on a monthly basis to continue doing what they do? |
Caviar Liberta
Moira.
Villore Accords
510
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:43:00 -
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*sings* Another rumor thread you see, this topic is so fresh and clean. |
GreenSeed
983
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:43:00 -
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they owe you nothing, if they use the money to pay for drugs and alcohol its their decision. EULA? what the hell has the EULA have to do with a privately owned and ran station? if anything they use the word "EVE" on their name, something that's the result of an agreement outside of the bounds of the EULA. if CCP feels they should revoke it because that private entity is no longer representing their product in a fair way they can obviously revoke it, but it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the EULA.
"CCP hf. has granted permission to Eve-Radio to use EVE Online and associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, Eve-Radio. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website. "
and no, you are not owed any transparency, at all. have some personal responsibility on where you donate your money to.
transparency on donations can only be demanded if you are applying to have your donation as a tax deduction, which by the way you cant on this case. that's why charitable organizations don't take random donations, they do it under the umbrella of a particular "goal" for which they vouch for should the IRS ask where the money actually went.
save your energy and Capsuleer outrage for something that actually needs it. |
Sarcasim
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union
The Predictables
10
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:44:00 -
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Mrs Mayo wrote:Eve Radio ask for donations to keep them on air. Surely the community has a right to see a breakdown or audit or our real life cash that they tell us is needed on a monthly basis? No?
You are donating not buying stock. Should you not trust it then do not donate. |
Mrs Mayo
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:46:00 -
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Sarcasim wrote:Mrs Mayo wrote:Eve Radio ask for donations to keep them on air. Surely the community has a right to see a breakdown or audit or our real life cash that they tell us is needed on a monthly basis? No? You are donating not buying stock. Should you not trust it then do not donate.
Donating to whose wallet? |
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
101
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:46:00 -
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I'm personally of the opinion that if you "donated" money to someone on the internet you've lost all rights to that money and where it goes. Short of giving to known charity organizations, donating to internet people, regardless of what they say they are going to use it for is like giving that obvious junky on the street corner your change for "a meal." Good luck auditing that guy to find out where the money you gave him went. |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
11083
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:50:00 -
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I wonder, does the OP know what you need to run something like Eradio?
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Sarcasim
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union
The Predictables
11
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:53:00 -
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Mrs Mayo wrote:Sarcasim wrote:Mrs Mayo wrote:Eve Radio ask for donations to keep them on air. Surely the community has a right to see a breakdown or audit or our real life cash that they tell us is needed on a monthly basis? No? You are donating not buying stock. Should you not trust it then do not donate. Donating to whose wallet?
To the wallet you agreed to the moment you clicked the donate button. |
Mrs Mayo
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:57:00 -
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Dun'Gal wrote:I'm personally of the opinion that if you "donated" money to someone on the internet you've lost all rights to that money and where it goes. Short of giving to known charity organizations, donating to internet people, regardless of what they say they are going to use it for is like giving that obvious junky on the street corner your change for "a meal." Good luck auditing that guy to find out where the money you gave him went.
EULA applies here not donating to Oxfam. If my allegation is correct as the evidence provided to me stands true, then an entity affilaited with CCP is making false pretence to endeavour to make real like cash profit. Have reason to suggest individuals within Eve Radio are falsefying monthly station donation requirements for their own personal financial gratification. |
Garia666
CyberShield Inc
Triumvirate.
68
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:59:00 -
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Mrs Mayo wrote:Eve Radio has potentially been scamming the eve player base for a long while now.
The real life cash donations that they ask for live on air on a monthly basis to be made to the website is arguably not representative of the true cost of the station being able to continue to broadcast.
Despite being active in numerous games, Eve Radio fails to openly declare that they are part of a wider gaming network and do not necessarily rely on the real life cash donations they endeavour to get from the eve community, nor is it as i am led to believe, representative of the tue cost of keeping them on air.
If this were to be true. Where does the excess cash go and into whose wallet?
Scams in Eve you say?
This one potentially involves real life cash.
I was provided with good enough internet radio cross comparison cost information to consider making this allegation.
Outwith a response from Eve Radio it can't be discounted.
I assume if everything is above board then Eve Radio can and would be willing to provide evidence of why they ask the amount of real life cash they do from eve players on a monthly basis to remain on air?
If Eve Radio aren't willing to disclose this breakdown then outwith a legal context which can't be brought here, i'd urge you stop donating until they do - elsewise for all you know you are being scammed.
Since you seem to know how much the true cost is of eve radio why dont you share your insight. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1775
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Posted - 2014.04.09 05:00:00 -
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Guys, guys... I have this exact same problem with Pandora. $36 a year??? It doesn't cost them that much * all the users to provide streaming music to me. I'm going to demand their financial records as soon as I'm done telling Obama how to respond to the Russian thing and my wife how to lose a little weight.
"You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion
***** Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM ***** |
Mrs Mayo
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.04.09 05:01:00 -
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If Eve Radio are unable to provide a breakdown of how and why they ask what they do in real life cash per month from us eve players to stay on air then they have things to hide, |
Garia666
CyberShield Inc
Triumvirate.
68
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Posted - 2014.04.09 05:06:00 -
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Mrs Mayo wrote:If Eve Radio are unable to provide a breakdown of how and why they ask what they do in real life cash per month from us eve players to stay on air then they have things to hide,
What it comes down to is that you shout something out of thin air and post it like itGÇÖs the truth.
Tell me why would they need to share with you what their expenses are?
And itGÇÖs based on donations, I donGÇÖt see what your problem could be with eve radio.
It all smells like a cry of attention or grudge tbh
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
11083
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Posted - 2014.04.09 05:07:00 -
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Mrs Mayo wrote:If Eve Radio are unable to provide a breakdown of how and why they ask what they do in real life cash per month from us eve players to stay on air then they have things to hide,
Or they just dont want to.
Do you have any idea what it takes to run E radio?
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples
League of Infamy
517
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Posted - 2014.04.09 05:08:00 -
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Mrs Mayo wrote:If Eve Radio are unable to provide a breakdown of how and why they ask what they do in real life cash per month from us eve players to stay on air then they have things to hide,
They're not going to hand them over to a nobody like you.
Go into your local bank and ask for all their records while you're at it... Watch them laugh your ass out the door...
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
Kyperion
218
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Posted - 2014.04.09 05:09:00 -
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Mrs Mayo wrote:Eve Radio has potentially been scamming the eve player base for a long while now.
The real life cash donations that they ask for live on air on a monthly basis to be made to the website is arguably not representative of the true cost of the station being able to continue to broadcast.
Despite being active in numerous games, Eve Radio fails to openly declare that they are part of a wider gaming network and do not necessarily rely on the real life cash donations they endeavour to get from the eve community, nor is it as i am led to believe, representative of the tue cost of keeping them on air.
If this were to be true. Where does the excess cash go and into whose wallet?
Scams in Eve you say?
This one potentially involves real life cash.
I was provided with good enough internet radio cross comparison cost information to consider making this allegation.
Outwith a response from Eve Radio it can't be discounted.
I assume if everything is above board then Eve Radio can and would be willing to provide evidence of why they ask the amount of real life cash they do from eve players on a monthly basis to remain on air?
If Eve Radio aren't willing to disclose this breakdown then outwith a legal context which can't be brought here, i'd urge you stop donating until they do - elsewise for all you know you are being scammed.
Mrs Mayo looks mysteriously like a certain someone we all new once upon a time.... hello E1's new incarnation |
Mrs Mayo
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.04.09 05:10:00 -
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As my original post hinted, eve radio are asking the eve community for way more real life cash on a monthly basis than they need to keep the station on air given other interests...
Not sure of the EULA implications of this.
Where does this real life cash go?
Clarification from Eve Radio would be good but until then i would urge you not to donate |
Kyperion
218
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Posted - 2014.04.09 05:13:00 -
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Mrs Mayo wrote:As my original post hinted, eve radio are asking the eve community for way more real life cash on a monthly basis than they need to keep on station on air given other interests...
Not sure of the EULA implications of this.
Where does this real life cash go?
Clarification from Eve Radio would be good but until then i would urge you not to donate
As Esteemed members of the EVE online community so cheerfully and gleefully like to point out... if you are stupid enough to give money to somebody just because they say they need it, well; that's on you.
Its kind of like voting for Democrats.... |
Mrs Mayo
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.04.09 05:21:00 -
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Kyperion wrote:Mrs Mayo wrote:As my original post hinted, eve radio are asking the eve community for way more real life cash on a monthly basis than they need to keep on station on air given other interests...
Not sure of the EULA implications of this.
Where does this real life cash go?
Clarification from Eve Radio would be good but until then i would urge you not to donate As Esteemed members of the EVE online community so cheerfully and gleefully like to point out... if you are stupid enough to give money to somebody just because they say they need it, well; that's on you. Its kind of like voting for Democrats....
What we have here is deception involving real life money.
Donations to keep an internet radio station keep afloat yes, sure.
Asking for more than is required and skimming the cream for personal profit irl, is also know as scamming. |
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