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Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
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Posted - 2014.04.10 04:08:00 -
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Ayeson wrote:Daimian Mercer wrote:
Lastly - Siggy has had major security issues for years... and I'm talking about JUST web server security, not the creator handing out personal data to friends.
get off your high horse, there is no "Backdoor" into siggy for bros While we're slandering, Tripwire makes me want to vomit the UI is atrocious and Its lack of customizability makes me want to abort it with a coathanger. Yes i'm in a bad mood.
Well, got to slander people in order to get attention I suppose. |
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Doom Generation
THE H0NEYBADGER
350
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Posted - 2014.04.10 04:26:00 -
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Woops. Siggy just updated, this is the wrong place for the badger CTA after all |
Winthorp
1457
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:05:00 -
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I honestly don't know why Two Step would be a douche and post this on a public forum first? Did you even approach the siggy guy to tell them what is possible and ask that it be fixed before you spurged it over here for everyone to see?
Seems to me that you have some personal issue with this guy and you have done this spurge to ruin the in game business he has going for a lot of work invested by him regardless of peoples views on siggy (personally i don't like siggy) It just seemed a douche way to go about this Two Step.
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Sith1s Spectre
Sky Fighters
Sky Syndicate
830
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:07:00 -
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Wow,
Just looks like two step has a grudge against the operator of siggy.
Reality is the majority of large WH groups have their security comprimised in some way and the apparent leaking of information is no worse than some dude in your corp being a spy.
You only have to look at eve skunk to see what i'm talking about.
Anyways, Siggy has been a great program over the years I have been using it and IMO none of the other mappers can match it in features or being user friendly.
Sith
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Jack Miton
Sky Fighters
Sky Syndicate
3224
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:38:00 -
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Winthorp wrote:I honestly don't know why Two Step would be a douche and post this on a public forum first? Did you even approach the siggy guy to tell them what is possible and ask that it be fixed before you spurged it over here for everyone to see?
Seems to me that you have some personal issue with this guy and you have done this spurge to ruin the in game business he has going for a lot of work invested by him regardless of peoples views on siggy (personally i don't like siggy) It just seemed a douche way to go about this Two Step.
Two Step has personal competitive issues with siggy since he wrote the AHARM mapper (no idea if they still use it), he's never been a fan.
His mapper was great in 2010 but it didnt keep up with siggy at all.
Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ |
Jess Tanner
Hard Knocks Inc.
108
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:58:00 -
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I'm sorry Hidden, you know I heart you guys, but tripwire is such utter **** I transformed into 3 black guys just to laugh at this statement.
Now that I am feeling better, and as compensation for having to **** on Lazerhawks in house Mapping program, I will provide the following link.
Go with Bob, keep Him always in your heart. He is your Sword, Shield, and the Knife in your back. |
Paikis
Sky Fighters
Sky Syndicate
1142
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Posted - 2014.04.10 07:32:00 -
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Glyndi wrote:In other traffic related news, I'm in Phoenix waiting on a corner for Proc to give me a handy.
Can confirm that the only use for the Phoenix is in waiting on corners. |
Jack Miton
Sky Fighters
Sky Syndicate
3225
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Posted - 2014.04.10 07:49:00 -
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well we used tripwire for about 3 hours before switching back to siggy, buggy or not.
tripwire... yeah... >_<
Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ |
Terrorfrodo
Renegade Hobbits for Mordor
634
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Posted - 2014.04.10 08:04:00 -
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Daimian Mercer wrote:
Also this did not require most secure servers to have to change or update anything, it was not a very big vulnerability... most tech news sites never even posted anything about it.
Are you kidding me? Hundreds of major sites including Googlemail, Adobe, many banks and even Verisign itself have been vulnerable and all data including access passwords for email and banking are now potentially in the hand of criminals. Also private keys could have been stolen so that any "secure" website that does not change its keys is potentially open to attack at any time, even if the site itself was not vulnerable to this bug.
And of course this is top news at every tech site I read. Also it was on the New York Times.
. |
Tasiv Deka
End-of-Line
Sky Syndicate
220
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Posted - 2014.04.10 08:09:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:well we used tripwire for about 3 hours before switching back to siggy, buggy or not.
tripwire... yeah... >_<
Literally they started toying with it while i was moving in... by time i logged they had decided it was **** and we would just deal with siggy.
Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts...-á
The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth. |
Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
164
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Posted - 2014.04.10 11:41:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:well we used tripwire for about 3 hours before switching back to siggy, buggy or not.
tripwire... yeah... >_<
If you are saying siggy is buggy, my inbox is always open :P
Tasiv Deka wrote:Jack Miton wrote:well we used tripwire for about 3 hours before switching back to siggy, buggy or not.
tripwire... yeah... >_< Literally they started toying with it while i was moving in... by time i logged they had decided it was **** and we would just deal with siggy.
evemail bugs/issues/complaints |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol
Awakened.
1465
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Posted - 2014.04.10 12:04:00 -
[42] - Quote
It's always risky using a third party mapping tool. It's more than likely that the corp who designed it will use it against you eventually.
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics
No Holes Barred
4563
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Posted - 2014.04.10 12:45:00 -
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Winthorp wrote:I honestly don't know why Two Step would be a douche and post this on a public forum first? Did you even approach the siggy guy to tell them what is possible and ask that it be fixed before you spurged it over here for everyone to see?
Seems to me that you have some personal issue with this guy and you have done this spurge to ruin the in game business he has going for a lot of work invested by him regardless of peoples views on siggy (personally i don't like siggy) It just seemed a douche way to go about this Two Step.
Honestly, I didn't know who to approach about siggy. If you go to the site, it doesn't give you an email or even an eve username to get in touch with (unless I missed it).
I also checked most of the w-space groups I knew about, and when I found issues (which were with like 2 of the 10 I checked), I got in touch with the owners ASAP. Hell, no-ho.com was vulnerable for 12 hours or so.
As I said, I gave the site 36 hours or so to get fixed, and only posted here because I didn't see an alternative. I have nothing to gain or lose by siggy doing well, NOHO is currently a customer of theirs, and I don't want to see my alliancemates spied upon.
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GRIM SOAR
Black Spiral Dancers
0
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:15:00 -
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Two step wrote:Winthorp wrote:I honestly don't know why Two Step would be a douche and post this on a public forum first? Did you even approach the siggy guy to tell them what is possible and ask that it be fixed before you spurged it over here for everyone to see?
Seems to me that you have some personal issue with this guy and you have done this spurge to ruin the in game business he has going for a lot of work invested by him regardless of peoples views on siggy (personally i don't like siggy) It just seemed a douche way to go about this Two Step. Honestly, I didn't know who to approach about siggy. If you go to the site, it doesn't give you an email or even an eve username to get in touch with (unless I missed it). I also checked most of the w-space groups I knew about, and when I found issues (which were with like 2 of the 10 I checked), I got in touch with the owners ASAP. Hell, no-ho.com was vulnerable for 12 hours or so. As I said, I gave the site 36 hours or so to get fixed, and only posted here because I didn't see an alternative. I have nothing to gain or lose by siggy doing well, NOHO is currently a customer of theirs, and I don't want to see my alliancemates spied upon.
It was a douchie move. Your thread title is damaging beyond repair for those that A: don't know siggy, and B: don't have a clue what heart bleed is. You started this thread with clear intent to do damage.
Your post lacks character and supports the main stream message that standards are low for CSM members afterall. |
Jack Miton
Sky Fighters
Sky Syndicate
3229
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:20:00 -
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Jack Tronic wrote:evemail bugs/issues/complaints
siggy says Y790 WH is 1bil, it's not.
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CeNSeR
Boris Johnson's Love Children
Awakened.
72
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:26:00 -
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Jack Tronic wrote:EVEMAIL!!!! bugs/issues/complaints
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Le'Mon Tichim
End-of-Line
Sky Syndicate
151
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:33:00 -
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Tasiv Deka wrote:Jack Miton wrote:well we used tripwire for about 3 hours before switching back to siggy, buggy or not.
tripwire... yeah... >_< Literally they started toying with it while i was moving in... by time i logged they had decided it was **** and we would just deal with siggy.
And made my mailbox cry as a result.
Can you hear them? They are calling to us. It is beautiful.
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Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
488
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:46:00 -
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Two step wrote:
Honestly, I didn't know who to approach about siggy. If you go to the site, it doesn't give you an email or even an eve username to get in touch with (unless I missed it).
I also checked most of the w-space groups I knew about, and when I found issues (which were with like 2 of the 10 I checked), I got in touch with the owners ASAP. Hell, no-ho.com was vulnerable for 12 hours or so.
As I said, I gave the site 36 hours or so to get fixed, and only posted here because I didn't see an alternative. I have nothing to gain or lose by siggy doing well, NOHO is currently a customer of theirs, and I don't want to see my alliancemates spied upon.
Siggy.borkedlabs.com
http://evewho.com/corp/borkedLabs/
It could be way easier to contact him, yes, but well....Google Fu!
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics
No Holes Barred
4563
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:46:00 -
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GRIM SOAR wrote:
It was a douchie move. Your thread title is damaging beyond repair for those that A: don't know siggy, and B: don't have a clue what heart bleed is. You started this thread with clear intent to do damage.
Your post lacks character and supports the main stream message that standards are low for CSM members afterall.
Oh awesome, so not only do some idiots expect CSM members to adhere to some sort of magic standards, now even a year after I was on the CSM I still have to live by them? Can you please tell me what these magic standards are, nobody told me before I ran for CSM. If you look back at my forum posting history, I have always been like this, sorry if you got tricked into voting for me.
I am also so sorry I might have hurt siggy's clearly spectacular security reputation by revealing that it was in fact insecure for 3 days or so. I also am sorry I may have posted something that would have required the most cursory of google searches (or even to turn on the news) for people to learn what heartbleed was (though I have no idea why most people would care about the details, the issue was that information they thought was secure was not).
As for my intent, it was always to get siggy fixed. I don't *want* people to be able to know where people were. I don't want them to possibly be able to get other people's API keys, if people were registering for out of game access. I'm sorry if your feelings were hurt by me caring about that sort of stuff.
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CSM 6 Alternate Delegate
@two_step_eve on Twitter
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics
No Holes Barred
4563
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:47:00 -
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Ayeson wrote:Two step wrote:
Honestly, I didn't know who to approach about siggy. If you go to the site, it doesn't give you an email or even an eve username to get in touch with (unless I missed it).
I also checked most of the w-space groups I knew about, and when I found issues (which were with like 2 of the 10 I checked), I got in touch with the owners ASAP. Hell, no-ho.com was vulnerable for 12 hours or so.
As I said, I gave the site 36 hours or so to get fixed, and only posted here because I didn't see an alternative. I have nothing to gain or lose by siggy doing well, NOHO is currently a customer of theirs, and I don't want to see my alliancemates spied upon.
Siggy. borkedlabs.com http://evewho.com/corp/borkedLabs/Google fu!
Clearly you are a smarter man than I. I went to www.borkedlabs.com in the hopes that I would find something and just got an error.
CSM 7 Secretary
CSM 6 Alternate Delegate
@two_step_eve on Twitter
My Blog
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Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
488
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:48:00 -
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Two step wrote:
As for my intent, it was always to get siggy fixed. I don't *want* people to be able to know where people were. I don't want them to possibly be able to get other people's API keys, if people were registering for out of game access. I'm sorry if your feelings were hurt by me caring about that sort of stuff.
Could you please stop caring and just adhere to the magical set of rules and standards all Ex-CSM members must adhere to? kthx
Edit: Yeah the default webpage is just an apache landing page, you should probably get on that JACK.
MAKE IT EASIER FOR US TO ***** BITCH AT YOU, LIKE WITH A CONTACT FORM OR SOMETHING
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Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
355
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Posted - 2014.04.10 14:20:00 -
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It's not a Lazerhawks mapping tool, but we have been using it for almost two years now. You better heart us.
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Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
166
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Posted - 2014.04.10 14:22:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Jack Tronic wrote:evemail bugs/issues/complaints siggy says Y790 WH is 1bil, it's not.
Fixed.
Quote:
Edit: Yeah the default webpage is just an apache landing page, you should probably get on that JACK.
That default domain landing page is on a different server. I have 4 different servers under the domain for different purposes. |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
489
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Posted - 2014.04.10 14:51:00 -
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Jack Tronic wrote:
That default domain landing page is on a different server. I have 4 different servers under the domain for different purposes.
Why dont you just put a "contact us" page on the siggy.borkedlabs.com site then?
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics
No Holes Barred
4563
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Posted - 2014.04.10 16:33:00 -
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Ayeson wrote:Jack Tronic wrote:
That default domain landing page is on a different server. I have 4 different servers under the domain for different purposes.
Why dont you just put a "contact us" page on the siggy.borkedlabs.com site then?
Or even just your name/email, I would totally have reached out that way first!
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CSM 6 Alternate Delegate
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Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
166
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:11:00 -
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Two step wrote:Ayeson wrote:Jack Tronic wrote:
That default domain landing page is on a different server. I have 4 different servers under the domain for different purposes.
Why dont you just put a "contact us" page on the siggy.borkedlabs.com site then? Or even just your name/email, I would totally have reached out that way first!
Well there's that but at the same time responsible disclosure doesn't involve bragging about OMG LOOK AT WHO I AM SPYING ON AND WHERE :P
But yea the public facing side is dated and past its age, I guess its time to fix that. |
Winthorp
1463
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Posted - 2014.04.10 23:05:00 -
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Two step wrote:Winthorp wrote:I honestly don't know why Two Step would be a douche and post this on a public forum first? Did you even approach the siggy guy to tell them what is possible and ask that it be fixed before you spurged it over here for everyone to see?
Seems to me that you have some personal issue with this guy and you have done this spurge to ruin the in game business he has going for a lot of work invested by him regardless of peoples views on siggy (personally i don't like siggy) It just seemed a douche way to go about this Two Step. Honestly, I didn't know who to approach about siggy. If you go to the site, it doesn't give you an email or even an eve username to get in touch with (unless I missed it). I also checked most of the w-space groups I knew about, and when I found issues (which were with like 2 of the 10 I checked), I got in touch with the owners ASAP. Hell, no-ho.com was vulnerable for 12 hours or so. As I said, I gave the site 36 hours or so to get fixed, and only posted here because I didn't see an alternative. I have nothing to gain or lose by siggy doing well, NOHO is currently a customer of theirs, and I don't want to see my alliancemates spied upon.
TBH that is a bullshit reason, you honestly didn't know bahahaha. Every man and his dog knows who runs siggy, if you didn't want to contact his main then on siggy itself for a little effort (And you clearly went to effort to investigate the hack) then you would have been able to contact the siggy cover alt.
Its still a douche move you made and you know it.
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Sith1s Spectre
Sky Fighters
Sky Syndicate
836
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Posted - 2014.04.10 23:13:00 -
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Out of curiosity. Isn't hacking a website in the states a federal offence?
Personally I don't care but if it is I sure wouldn't be publicly admitting to it.
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Camper101
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
961
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Posted - 2014.04.11 08:56:00 -
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Sith1s Spectre wrote:Out of curiosity. Isn't hacking a website in the states a federal offence?
Personally I don't care but if it is I sure wouldn't be publicly admitting to it.
Now, if you would actually hack the site and not just listen to what it broadcasts to everyone, maybe, yes.
On the other hand: i'd rather thank the guys than scaring them off. Because those that use the bug in a malicious way wont tell you about it. and do things to you. Nasty things. Without ppl looking for holes in those protocols not a single security gap would have been detected and all your *insertrandomwebmailservice here* *insert random MMO here* passwords would be available for everyone that has a clue freely.
But back to topic, no he didn't hack, he just read what was broadcasted anyway :P
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Meytal
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
362
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Posted - 2014.04.11 12:03:00 -
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Two step wrote:If you look back at my forum posting history, I have always been like this, sorry if you got tricked into voting for me.
Confirming, he was like this while CSM as well.
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