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Two step
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2014.04.09 14:16:00 -
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Some of you might have heard about the Heartbleed bug found in openSSL. Most larger sites are fixed, but siggy is not. If you are still using siggy, you might want to stop until it is fixed, as you are basically broadcasting your location to anyone who cares to find out. For example, I just discovered that "Maes Trent" in AdAstra is in Tar in a Cerberus. If anyone knows the siggy dude, please ask him to fix his server. I also can currently see his private SSL key. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Rengas
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
337
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Posted - 2014.04.09 16:01:00 -
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Can confirm that Siggy has been compromised and is leaking personal information.
Went through my online checking account bank statements this morning and discovered some suspicious payments to HungCollegeHunks and BackdoorBandits.com. |

Two step
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
4561
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Posted - 2014.04.09 17:16:00 -
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Rengas wrote:Can confirm that Siggy has been compromised and is leaking personal information.
Went through my online checking account bank statements this morning and discovered some suspicious payments to HungCollegeHunks and BackdoorBandits.com.
Pretty sure those are just your normal subscriptions.
I'm not saying it is leaking personal information, though it is entirely possible to see someone's api info and email if they happen to be registering for the out of game access. I am more concerned about session hijacking, it is trivially easy to see other corps/alliances maps. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
355
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Posted - 2014.04.09 17:37:00 -
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Tripwire? Snipped signature for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne |

Rall Mekin
End-of-Line Sky Syndicate
299
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Posted - 2014.04.09 17:46:00 -
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Two step wrote:Rengas wrote:Can confirm that Siggy has been compromised and is leaking personal information.
Went through my online checking account bank statements this morning and discovered some suspicious payments to HungCollegeHunks and BackdoorBandits.com. Pretty sure those are just your normal subscriptions.
Wrong, I'm the forum troll that's normal for. http://imgur.com/yEQqAeb |

Glyndi
Doom Generation THE H0NEYBADGER
193
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Posted - 2014.04.09 17:49:00 -
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Confirmed as a better option  |

Two step
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
4562
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Posted - 2014.04.09 18:10:00 -
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Appears to not be vulnerable to this bug (note that I have not used it) CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Longinius Spear
Doom Generation THE H0NEYBADGER
257
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:29:00 -
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Does this mean I'll get more gud fights? Co-host of Down The Pipe Podcast Read more of my ramblings on my blog. |

Eric 72826
Doom Generation THE H0NEYBADGER
3
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:38:00 -
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Glyndi wrote:Confirmed as a better option 
I demand to know who you are and why your endorsement should be heeded. |

Winthorp
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:43:00 -
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Can confirm i to have been looking in windows and "Maes Trent" was wearing Sesame street pyjamas. (Insert witty signature here) |

Tetsuo Tsukaya
Doom Generation THE H0NEYBADGER
350
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Posted - 2014.04.09 20:59:00 -
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Am I in the right place for the Badger CTA? I checked and there's nothing on siggy    |

Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate
1430
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:00:00 -
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I am waiting for a color response from the siggy rep. haha No trolling please |

Jack Miton
Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:08:00 -
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Does that mean people will fight us now? Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ |

Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
482
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:10:00 -
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Siggy keeps bleeding, keep keeps bleedin love Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour.
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Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate
1431
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:13:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Does that mean people will fight us now?
Not when we have 60 people in fleet waiting on a wormhole  No trolling please |

Rengas
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
346
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:22:00 -
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According to Siggy I am sitting in a cloaked Ishtar in Vlillirier in the Medium Outpost waiting for this Caracal to come in and start farmer pigging his LP. |

Two step
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
4562
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:25:00 -
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Just a quick update, Halaro Elshona from THE EXOGEN CONSORTIUM (someone needs to lay off the caps key), is in an Omen named "Poik" in Kaaputenen.
Also, Maes Trent looks like they made it to their hole (or got blown up), as they are now in a capsule in J165940, in case anyone was worried about them getting in. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Glyndi
Doom Generation THE H0NEYBADGER
193
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:36:00 -
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In other traffic related news, I'm in Phoenix waiting on a corner for Proc to give me a handy. |

Daimian Mercer
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2014.04.09 22:02:00 -
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First: I tried to warn Siggy's creator about some of the security flaws months ago...
Second: I'm sorry for the delay for all those who were requesting access to Tripwire - got kind of flooded with requests :) I am nearly caught up and will be available for further pummeling for the next 6 hours.
And for the record Tripwire is now used by over 150 corps/alliances. Some big names in that list are testing it.
Creator of Tripwire https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=320030&find=unread |

GRIM SOAR
Black Spiral Dancers
0
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Posted - 2014.04.09 22:51:00 -
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Slander. Interesting.
I've used both. I prefer siggy.
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Terrorfrodo
Renegade Hobbits for Mordor
633
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:20:00 -
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Two step wrote:as you are basically broadcasting your location to anyone who cares to find out. That might be a slight exaggeration. I for one have no idea how to exploit this bug to hack Siggy and the same is true for probably 99.7% of the rest of the EVE population.
Also, that one guy developing a gaming tool for fun has not yet fixed his tool two days after the most severe vulnerability in the history of the real-life internet has been discovered, might maybe be forgiven. Even if it allowed poor Maes Trent to be exposed as a Cerberus pilot. . |

Daimian Mercer
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:27:00 -
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Terrorfrodo wrote:Two step wrote:as you are basically broadcasting your location to anyone who cares to find out. That might be a slight exaggeration. I for one have no idea how to exploit this bug to hack Siggy and the same is true for probably 99.7% of the rest of the EVE population. Also, that one guy developing a gaming tool for fun has not yet fixed his tool two days after the most severe vulnerability in the history of the real-life internet has been discovered, might maybe be forgiven. Even if it allowed poor Maes Trent to be exposed as a Cerberus pilot.
There is a firefox plugin that can do all the "hacking" for you - though calling it hacking isn't accurate because there is nothing illegal about just listening to what a server is broadcasting the the world.
Also this did not require most secure servers to have to change or update anything, it was not a very big vulnerability... most tech news sites never even posted anything about it.
Lastly - Siggy has had major security issues for years... and I'm talking about JUST web server security, not the creator handing out personal data to friends. Creator of Tripwire https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=320030&find=unread |

Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
355
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:34:00 -
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GRIM SOAR wrote:Slander. Interesting.
I've used both. I prefer siggy.
Lolrip Snipped signature for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne |

Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
355
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:37:00 -
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Double post... Snipped signature for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne |

Two step
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
4562
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Posted - 2014.04.10 01:16:00 -
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Terrorfrodo wrote:Two step wrote:as you are basically broadcasting your location to anyone who cares to find out. That might be a slight exaggeration. I for one have no idea how to exploit this bug to hack Siggy and the same is true for probably 99.7% of the rest of the EVE population. Also, that one guy developing a gaming tool for fun has not yet fixed his tool two days after the most severe vulnerability in the history of the real-life internet has been discovered, might maybe be forgiven. Even if it allowed poor Maes Trent to be exposed as a Cerberus pilot.
As was mentioned, it is quite easy to exploit it.
He isn't doing it "fpr fun", he is being paid by the corps and alliances that are using it. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Rengas
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
349
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Posted - 2014.04.10 01:24:00 -
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I for one would like to thank Two Step Snowden for bravely exposing the creator of Siggy as a fiendish treacherous mastermind.
Too long have we suffered under the vindictive rule of Mess Who Shall Not Be Named. |

Jack Miton
Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate
3223
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Posted - 2014.04.10 02:12:00 -
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Siggy's security has been lacking since it got released, it's nothing new. That said, there are no alternatives to it that are anywhere close so people don't care. Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ |

Alundil
Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate
462
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Posted - 2014.04.10 02:31:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Siggy's security has been lacking since it got released, it's nothing new. That said, there are no alternatives to it that are anywhere close so people don't care. w-space is actually pretty decent imo. We had a private instance in our last corp. Clone mechanics enchancements Deep Space Probe Revival |

Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
163
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Posted - 2014.04.10 02:56:00 -
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1. Give me the private key :P 2. The packages I needed to update the server were released late last night, they have been applied now.
Quote: Also, that one guy developing a gaming tool for fun has not yet fixed his tool two days after the most severe vulnerability in the history of the real-life internet has been discovered, might maybe be forgiven. Even if it allowed poor Maes Trent to be exposed as a Cerberus pilot.
see #2.
At no point was any real data vulnerable, just http query data, which If I supposed you just spent the last 2 days writing some sort of bastardized script to scrap in laughable futility. Any attempts to access data outside the http process would have just resulted in an immediate seg fault. The actual script language for the site is isolated in its own process from the server via fastcgi. |

Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
483
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Posted - 2014.04.10 03:57:00 -
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Daimian Mercer wrote: Lastly - Siggy has had major security issues for years... and I'm talking about JUST web server security, not the creator handing out personal data to friends.
get off your high horse, there is no "Backdoor" into siggy for bros
While we're slandering, Tripwire makes me want to vomit the UI is atrocious and Its lack of customizability makes me want to abort it with a coathanger.
Yes i'm in a bad mood. Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour.
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Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
164
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Posted - 2014.04.10 04:08:00 -
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Ayeson wrote:Daimian Mercer wrote: Lastly - Siggy has had major security issues for years... and I'm talking about JUST web server security, not the creator handing out personal data to friends.
get off your high horse, there is no "Backdoor" into siggy for bros While we're slandering, Tripwire makes me want to vomit the UI is atrocious and Its lack of customizability makes me want to abort it with a coathanger. Yes i'm in a bad mood.
Well, got to slander people in order to get attention I suppose. |

Tetsuo Tsukaya
Doom Generation THE H0NEYBADGER
350
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Posted - 2014.04.10 04:26:00 -
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Woops. Siggy just updated, this is the wrong place for the badger CTA after all |

Winthorp
1457
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:05:00 -
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I honestly don't know why Two Step would be a douche and post this on a public forum first? Did you even approach the siggy guy to tell them what is possible and ask that it be fixed before you spurged it over here for everyone to see?
Seems to me that you have some personal issue with this guy and you have done this spurge to ruin the in game business he has going for a lot of work invested by him regardless of peoples views on siggy (personally i don't like siggy) It just seemed a douche way to go about this Two Step. (Insert witty signature here) |

Sith1s Spectre
Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate
830
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:07:00 -
[34] - Quote
Wow,
Just looks like two step has a grudge against the operator of siggy.
Reality is the majority of large WH groups have their security comprimised in some way and the apparent leaking of information is no worse than some dude in your corp being a spy.
You only have to look at eve skunk to see what i'm talking about.
Anyways, Siggy has been a great program over the years I have been using it and IMO none of the other mappers can match it in features or being user friendly.
Sith
Sky Fighters - WH Space Mercs. -áFor more details https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=286708&find=unread
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Jack Miton
Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate
3224
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:38:00 -
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Winthorp wrote:I honestly don't know why Two Step would be a douche and post this on a public forum first? Did you even approach the siggy guy to tell them what is possible and ask that it be fixed before you spurged it over here for everyone to see?
Seems to me that you have some personal issue with this guy and you have done this spurge to ruin the in game business he has going for a lot of work invested by him regardless of peoples views on siggy (personally i don't like siggy) It just seemed a douche way to go about this Two Step. Two Step has personal competitive issues with siggy since he wrote the AHARM mapper (no idea if they still use it), he's never been a fan. His mapper was great in 2010 but it didnt keep up with siggy at all. Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ |

Jess Tanner
Hard Knocks Inc.
108
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:58:00 -
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I'm sorry Hidden, you know I heart you guys, but tripwire is such utter **** I transformed into 3 black guys just to laugh at this statement.
Now that I am feeling better, and as compensation for having to **** on Lazerhawks in house Mapping program, I will provide the following link. Go with Bob, keep Him always in your heart. He is your Sword, Shield, and the Knife in your back. |

Paikis
Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate
1142
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Posted - 2014.04.10 07:32:00 -
[37] - Quote
Glyndi wrote:In other traffic related news, I'm in Phoenix waiting on a corner for Proc to give me a handy.
Can confirm that the only use for the Phoenix is in waiting on corners. |

Jack Miton
Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate
3225
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Posted - 2014.04.10 07:49:00 -
[38] - Quote
well we used tripwire for about 3 hours before switching back to siggy, buggy or not. tripwire... yeah... >_< Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ |

Terrorfrodo
Renegade Hobbits for Mordor
634
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Posted - 2014.04.10 08:04:00 -
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Daimian Mercer wrote:
Also this did not require most secure servers to have to change or update anything, it was not a very big vulnerability... most tech news sites never even posted anything about it.
Are you kidding me? Hundreds of major sites including Googlemail, Adobe, many banks and even Verisign itself have been vulnerable and all data including access passwords for email and banking are now potentially in the hand of criminals. Also private keys could have been stolen so that any "secure" website that does not change its keys is potentially open to attack at any time, even if the site itself was not vulnerable to this bug.
And of course this is top news at every tech site I read. Also it was on the New York Times. . |

Tasiv Deka
End-of-Line Sky Syndicate
220
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Posted - 2014.04.10 08:09:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:well we used tripwire for about 3 hours before switching back to siggy, buggy or not. tripwire... yeah... >_<
Literally they started toying with it while i was moving in... by time i logged they had decided it was **** and we would just deal with siggy. Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts...-á
The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth. |

Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
164
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Posted - 2014.04.10 11:41:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:well we used tripwire for about 3 hours before switching back to siggy, buggy or not. tripwire... yeah... >_<
If you are saying siggy is buggy, my inbox is always open :P
Tasiv Deka wrote:Jack Miton wrote:well we used tripwire for about 3 hours before switching back to siggy, buggy or not. tripwire... yeah... >_< Literally they started toying with it while i was moving in... by time i logged they had decided it was **** and we would just deal with siggy.
evemail bugs/issues/complaints |

Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Awakened.
1465
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Posted - 2014.04.10 12:04:00 -
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It's always risky using a third party mapping tool. It's more than likely that the corp who designed it will use it against you eventually. +1 |

Two step
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
4563
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Posted - 2014.04.10 12:45:00 -
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Winthorp wrote:I honestly don't know why Two Step would be a douche and post this on a public forum first? Did you even approach the siggy guy to tell them what is possible and ask that it be fixed before you spurged it over here for everyone to see?
Seems to me that you have some personal issue with this guy and you have done this spurge to ruin the in game business he has going for a lot of work invested by him regardless of peoples views on siggy (personally i don't like siggy) It just seemed a douche way to go about this Two Step.
Honestly, I didn't know who to approach about siggy. If you go to the site, it doesn't give you an email or even an eve username to get in touch with (unless I missed it).
I also checked most of the w-space groups I knew about, and when I found issues (which were with like 2 of the 10 I checked), I got in touch with the owners ASAP. Hell, no-ho.com was vulnerable for 12 hours or so.
As I said, I gave the site 36 hours or so to get fixed, and only posted here because I didn't see an alternative. I have nothing to gain or lose by siggy doing well, NOHO is currently a customer of theirs, and I don't want to see my alliancemates spied upon. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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GRIM SOAR
Black Spiral Dancers
0
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:15:00 -
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Two step wrote:Winthorp wrote:I honestly don't know why Two Step would be a douche and post this on a public forum first? Did you even approach the siggy guy to tell them what is possible and ask that it be fixed before you spurged it over here for everyone to see?
Seems to me that you have some personal issue with this guy and you have done this spurge to ruin the in game business he has going for a lot of work invested by him regardless of peoples views on siggy (personally i don't like siggy) It just seemed a douche way to go about this Two Step. Honestly, I didn't know who to approach about siggy. If you go to the site, it doesn't give you an email or even an eve username to get in touch with (unless I missed it). I also checked most of the w-space groups I knew about, and when I found issues (which were with like 2 of the 10 I checked), I got in touch with the owners ASAP. Hell, no-ho.com was vulnerable for 12 hours or so. As I said, I gave the site 36 hours or so to get fixed, and only posted here because I didn't see an alternative. I have nothing to gain or lose by siggy doing well, NOHO is currently a customer of theirs, and I don't want to see my alliancemates spied upon.
It was a douchie move. Your thread title is damaging beyond repair for those that A: don't know siggy, and B: don't have a clue what heart bleed is. You started this thread with clear intent to do damage.
Your post lacks character and supports the main stream message that standards are low for CSM members afterall. |

Jack Miton
Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate
3229
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:20:00 -
[45] - Quote
Jack Tronic wrote:evemail bugs/issues/complaints siggy says Y790 WH is 1bil, it's not. Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ |

CeNSeR
Boris Johnson's Love Children Awakened.
72
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:26:00 -
[46] - Quote
Jack Tronic wrote:EVEMAIL!!!! bugs/issues/complaints
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Le'Mon Tichim
End-of-Line Sky Syndicate
151
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:33:00 -
[47] - Quote
Tasiv Deka wrote:Jack Miton wrote:well we used tripwire for about 3 hours before switching back to siggy, buggy or not. tripwire... yeah... >_< Literally they started toying with it while i was moving in... by time i logged they had decided it was **** and we would just deal with siggy.
And made my mailbox cry as a result. Can you hear them? They are calling to us. It is beautiful. http://thegreattichim.wordpress.com/ |

Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
488
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:46:00 -
[48] - Quote
Two step wrote:
Honestly, I didn't know who to approach about siggy. If you go to the site, it doesn't give you an email or even an eve username to get in touch with (unless I missed it).
I also checked most of the w-space groups I knew about, and when I found issues (which were with like 2 of the 10 I checked), I got in touch with the owners ASAP. Hell, no-ho.com was vulnerable for 12 hours or so.
As I said, I gave the site 36 hours or so to get fixed, and only posted here because I didn't see an alternative. I have nothing to gain or lose by siggy doing well, NOHO is currently a customer of theirs, and I don't want to see my alliancemates spied upon.
Siggy.borkedlabs.com
http://evewho.com/corp/borkedLabs/
It could be way easier to contact him, yes, but well....Google Fu! Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour.
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
4563
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:46:00 -
[49] - Quote
GRIM SOAR wrote:
It was a douchie move. Your thread title is damaging beyond repair for those that A: don't know siggy, and B: don't have a clue what heart bleed is. You started this thread with clear intent to do damage.
Your post lacks character and supports the main stream message that standards are low for CSM members afterall.
Oh awesome, so not only do some idiots expect CSM members to adhere to some sort of magic standards, now even a year after I was on the CSM I still have to live by them? Can you please tell me what these magic standards are, nobody told me before I ran for CSM. If you look back at my forum posting history, I have always been like this, sorry if you got tricked into voting for me.
I am also so sorry I might have hurt siggy's clearly spectacular security reputation by revealing that it was in fact insecure for 3 days or so. I also am sorry I may have posted something that would have required the most cursory of google searches (or even to turn on the news) for people to learn what heartbleed was (though I have no idea why most people would care about the details, the issue was that information they thought was secure was not).
As for my intent, it was always to get siggy fixed. I don't *want* people to be able to know where people were. I don't want them to possibly be able to get other people's API keys, if people were registering for out of game access. I'm sorry if your feelings were hurt by me caring about that sort of stuff. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
4563
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:47:00 -
[50] - Quote
Ayeson wrote:Two step wrote:
Honestly, I didn't know who to approach about siggy. If you go to the site, it doesn't give you an email or even an eve username to get in touch with (unless I missed it).
I also checked most of the w-space groups I knew about, and when I found issues (which were with like 2 of the 10 I checked), I got in touch with the owners ASAP. Hell, no-ho.com was vulnerable for 12 hours or so.
As I said, I gave the site 36 hours or so to get fixed, and only posted here because I didn't see an alternative. I have nothing to gain or lose by siggy doing well, NOHO is currently a customer of theirs, and I don't want to see my alliancemates spied upon.
Siggy. borkedlabs.com http://evewho.com/corp/borkedLabs/Google fu!
Clearly you are a smarter man than I. I went to www.borkedlabs.com in the hopes that I would find something and just got an error. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
488
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:48:00 -
[51] - Quote
Two step wrote:
As for my intent, it was always to get siggy fixed. I don't *want* people to be able to know where people were. I don't want them to possibly be able to get other people's API keys, if people were registering for out of game access. I'm sorry if your feelings were hurt by me caring about that sort of stuff.
Could you please stop caring and just adhere to the magical set of rules and standards all Ex-CSM members must adhere to? kthx
Edit: Yeah the default webpage is just an apache landing page, you should probably get on that JACK.
MAKE IT EASIER FOR US TO ***** BITCH AT YOU, LIKE WITH A CONTACT FORM OR SOMETHING Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour.
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Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
355
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Posted - 2014.04.10 14:20:00 -
[52] - Quote
It's not a Lazerhawks mapping tool, but we have been using it for almost two years now. You better heart us. Snipped signature for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne |

Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
166
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Posted - 2014.04.10 14:22:00 -
[53] - Quote
Jack Miton wrote:Jack Tronic wrote:evemail bugs/issues/complaints siggy says Y790 WH is 1bil, it's not.
Fixed.
Quote: Edit: Yeah the default webpage is just an apache landing page, you should probably get on that JACK.
That default domain landing page is on a different server. I have 4 different servers under the domain for different purposes. |

Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
489
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Posted - 2014.04.10 14:51:00 -
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Jack Tronic wrote: That default domain landing page is on a different server. I have 4 different servers under the domain for different purposes.
Why dont you just put a "contact us" page on the siggy.borkedlabs.com site then? Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour.
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
4563
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Posted - 2014.04.10 16:33:00 -
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Ayeson wrote:Jack Tronic wrote: That default domain landing page is on a different server. I have 4 different servers under the domain for different purposes.
Why dont you just put a "contact us" page on the siggy.borkedlabs.com site then?
Or even just your name/email, I would totally have reached out that way first! CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
166
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:11:00 -
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Two step wrote:Ayeson wrote:Jack Tronic wrote: That default domain landing page is on a different server. I have 4 different servers under the domain for different purposes.
Why dont you just put a "contact us" page on the siggy.borkedlabs.com site then? Or even just your name/email, I would totally have reached out that way first!
Well there's that but at the same time responsible disclosure doesn't involve bragging about OMG LOOK AT WHO I AM SPYING ON AND WHERE :P
But yea the public facing side is dated and past its age, I guess its time to fix that. |

Winthorp
1463
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Posted - 2014.04.10 23:05:00 -
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Two step wrote:Winthorp wrote:I honestly don't know why Two Step would be a douche and post this on a public forum first? Did you even approach the siggy guy to tell them what is possible and ask that it be fixed before you spurged it over here for everyone to see?
Seems to me that you have some personal issue with this guy and you have done this spurge to ruin the in game business he has going for a lot of work invested by him regardless of peoples views on siggy (personally i don't like siggy) It just seemed a douche way to go about this Two Step. Honestly, I didn't know who to approach about siggy. If you go to the site, it doesn't give you an email or even an eve username to get in touch with (unless I missed it). I also checked most of the w-space groups I knew about, and when I found issues (which were with like 2 of the 10 I checked), I got in touch with the owners ASAP. Hell, no-ho.com was vulnerable for 12 hours or so. As I said, I gave the site 36 hours or so to get fixed, and only posted here because I didn't see an alternative. I have nothing to gain or lose by siggy doing well, NOHO is currently a customer of theirs, and I don't want to see my alliancemates spied upon.
TBH that is a bullshit reason, you honestly didn't know bahahaha. Every man and his dog knows who runs siggy, if you didn't want to contact his main then on siggy itself for a little effort (And you clearly went to effort to investigate the hack) then you would have been able to contact the siggy cover alt.
Its still a douche move you made and you know it. (Insert witty signature here) |

Sith1s Spectre
Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate
836
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Posted - 2014.04.10 23:13:00 -
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Out of curiosity. Isn't hacking a website in the states a federal offence?
Personally I don't care but if it is I sure wouldn't be publicly admitting to it. Sky Fighters - WH Space Mercs. -áFor more details https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=286708&find=unread
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Camper101
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
961
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Posted - 2014.04.11 08:56:00 -
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Sith1s Spectre wrote:Out of curiosity. Isn't hacking a website in the states a federal offence?
Personally I don't care but if it is I sure wouldn't be publicly admitting to it.
Now, if you would actually hack the site and not just listen to what it broadcasts to everyone, maybe, yes.
On the other hand: i'd rather thank the guys than scaring them off. Because those that use the bug in a malicious way wont tell you about it. and do things to you. Nasty things. Without ppl looking for holes in those protocols not a single security gap would have been detected and all your *insertrandomwebmailservice here* *insert random MMO here* passwords would be available for everyone that has a clue freely.
But back to topic, no he didn't hack, he just read what was broadcasted anyway :P 2013.03.01 13:30:58 notify For participating in the General Discussion Forum Section your trustworthiness has been adjusted by -2.5000.
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Meytal
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
362
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Posted - 2014.04.11 12:03:00 -
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Two step wrote:If you look back at my forum posting history, I have always been like this, sorry if you got tricked into voting for me. Confirming, he was like this while CSM as well.
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mechform
Obstergo Red Coat Conspiracy
42
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Posted - 2014.04.11 12:27:00 -
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Sith1s Spectre wrote:Out of curiosity. Isn't hacking a website in the states a federal offence?
Personally I don't care but if it is I sure wouldn't be publicly admitting to it.
Nope, all you have to do is put #NSA somewhere in your code then its all legal. Black Power - Brotha's in space unite! |

Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate
188
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Posted - 2014.04.11 17:37:00 -
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Ayeson wrote:Daimian Mercer wrote: Lastly - Siggy has had major security issues for years... and I'm talking about JUST web server security, not the creator handing out personal data to friends.
get off your high horse, there is no "Backdoor" into siggy for bros While we're slandering, Tripwire makes me want to vomit the UI is atrocious and Its lack of customizability makes me want to abort it with a coathanger. Yes i'm in a bad mood.
That's not really slander. It would be libel, but it'd have to be a lie. "EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for." -CCP Wrangler |

Le'Mon Tichim
End-of-Line Sky Syndicate
151
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Posted - 2014.04.11 17:46:00 -
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mechform wrote:Sith1s Spectre wrote:Out of curiosity. Isn't hacking a website in the states a federal offence?
Personally I don't care but if it is I sure wouldn't be publicly admitting to it. Nope, all you have to do is put #NSA somewhere in your code then its all legal.
Don't even need that, just need your own NSA guy.
Which I will neither confirm nor deny we have.
Can you hear them? They are calling to us. It is beautiful. http://thegreattichim.wordpress.com/ |

ExookiZ
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
205
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Posted - 2014.04.11 17:48:00 -
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I voted for you this year. Twostep for CSM 9. The Wormhole Kid |

Maes Trent
AdAstra.
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Posted - 2014.04.11 18:58:00 -
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I am a victim
There are people hate being compared to criminals. They use their knowledge and make it either for good causes or to show that they are able. Do not think about the destruction of systems and sites help repair their faults. But I my Cross Scripting Style victim .... all the isk donation is the well came (ships or ISK) for damages suffered. Thanks!
And Dont forget, The Earth is a Triangle;)
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Rengas
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
358
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:04:00 -
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Maes Trent wrote:I am a victim
There are people hate being compared to criminals. They use their knowledge and make it either for good causes or to show that they are able. Do not think about the destruction of systems and sites help repair their faults. But I my Cross Scripting Style victim .... all the isk donation is the well came (ships or ISK) for damages suffered. Thanks!
And Dont forget, The Earth is a Triangle;)
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.04.11 22:07:00 -
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This thread has been moved to EVE Technology Lab. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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