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Irsam Samri
Delusions of Granduer
47
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:33:00 -
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Hey, been playing Eve on and off for a few years. I like the game in theory, it is just hard for me to find good fights, I find fights, just not goodfights. I would rather lose a substantial amount of isk in a close battle that taught me something than get on an even bigger killmail via a gatecamp.
off grid boosting is the crux for me. My 4 accounts are expiring. No you cant have my stuff I'll be back when its removed |
Tyrendian Biohazard
Ubiquitous Hurt Exodus.
271
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:35:00 -
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Irsam Samri wrote:Hey, been playing Eve on and off for a few years. I like the game in theory, it is just hard for me to find good fights, I find fights, just not goodfights. I would rather lose a substantial amount of isk in a close battle that taught me something than get on an even bigger killmail via a gatecamp.
off grid boosting is the crux for me. My 4 accounts are expiring. No you cant have my stuff I'll be back when its removed
1) Where are you trying to find fights. I don't have too much of a problem.
2) Bye! My twitch stream to help new players: http://www.twitch.tv/biohazrd51
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4355
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:37:00 -
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Buh bye!
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
186
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:37:00 -
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Can I have your stuff? |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3313
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:38:00 -
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What?
Oh my, a C3 network is outside my viewing range in a space ship game?
Ohnoes, best unsub till they change the game to be ******** *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1051
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:38:00 -
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This is the best way to vote, not CSM. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
635
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:41:00 -
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laters Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-áIf In Doubt....Do....Excessively. Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17728
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:43:00 -
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Stuff, can I take care of it for you?
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Revman Zim
Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda
238
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:43:00 -
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I am sure the loss of your 4 accounts will cause CCP to redirect ALL of their development efforts to make you happy.
Make sure you buy the HD stream of FANFEST so that you can see the official announcement.
Pompous ass. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1101
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:43:00 -
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While I always respect people who are prepared to take action over there gripes rather than just whine in the forum, in this case I don't see any problem at all with off-grid boosts.
So in this case, it might be more productive to stay and whine rather than leave. There seem to be a lot of people in W&T who whine about it.
In the end though, I hope it's futile. If anyone is prepared to put in all that training time and effort on an alt, they deserve the benefit that results.
If you aren't prepared to do it, then that's your own limiting choice. You should wear the consequence of thst choice, not someone else. . -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
3403
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:46:00 -
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I feel like starting a new boosting account to negate OP's departure. |
Eric D'Red
The Imperial LansDrahd LOADED-DICE
3
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:49:00 -
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We always send guys to take out the off-grid booster. They are usually juicy kills! |
Lucy Cooper
Exiter Corp Li3 Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:53:00 -
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Let me have your boosting ships till you come back.. you know so i can let you know when to come back |
Jarvin Spoo
Clandestine Management Group SiNTaX err0r
21
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:02:00 -
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Quick simple question.....
I have read through some of the 'Off-Grid Boosting' topics on the forums and could not find the answer.
For those of you that are for it - Is there any other benefit to do this other than just 'getting the booster ship/pilot out of harms way while a fight is happening'?
And for those of you that are against it - Is there any other argument against it other than 'Its not fair that a ship can participate in the fight (via boosting) and not be at risk?
I'm honestly trying to figure out what all the divisiveness on this is and why CCP has not stepped in yet.
Thanks in advance - |
Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
7485
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:05:00 -
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Your Stoofs, i can Haz?
I like Bacon. Zimmy Zeta - I f*cking love martinis. the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. Your old Friends can use me for 7 days, free!!! |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3313
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:06:00 -
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Jarvin Spoo wrote:
For those of you that are for it - Is there any other benefit to do this other than just 'getting the booster ship/pilot out of harms way while a fight is happening'?
Why would your Command and Control ship/bunker/armoured vehicle be placed at the front where it is in danger? Why would what it does mean it would have to be in line-of-sight with the enemy?
Jarvin Spoo wrote:
I'm honestly trying to figure out what all the divisiveness on this is and why CCP has not stepped in yet.
Working as nintendoed? *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1105
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:12:00 -
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Jarvin Spoo wrote:For those of you that are for it - Is there any other benefit to do this other than just 'getting the booster ship/pilot out of harms way while a fight is happening'? Like logistics and ewar, it's a force multiplier, allowing smaller fleets and lone pilots the opportunity to take on larger opponents.
However, if you bring it on grid, it will be primaried and killed as quickly as possible. That will favour blop tactics. Blop wins.
Thats the best reason I believe they should stay off grid. They aren't safe (though can be very, very difficult to scan down), but at least a blop can't just hit them and then, having their own booster, wipeout the rest of the opponent.
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
186
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:21:00 -
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Tollen Gallen wrote:Your Stoofs, i can Haz?
I like Bacon. Wow a new pic!
And still the cutest looking one of them all! |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
12010
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:21:00 -
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Are you SURE that they had OGB? Because youre not providing any proof...
Without proof, this is just another "Everyone worse than me is a noob, everyone better than me is a Haxxor and should DIAF" thread.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Belt Scout
121
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:27:00 -
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Next he's going to ask fr drugs to be taken out of the game.
Here's a suggestion. If you have 4 accounts, why don't you have your own OGB helping you out? Just keep it on a second monitor and warp it to another bookmark when you can afford to shut it off for a few seconds.
. EVE's only legitimate ISK halving service. I have 50Billion to not give away. It's easy for you to double my money. Just send me some isk, has to be 100Mil or higher, and I will send you back half. I can't lose. One guaranteed winner every round. Do it now. |
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Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
208
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:33:00 -
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Why aren't one of your possible 12 characters an off grid booster? .
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20561
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:41:00 -
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Belt Scout wrote:Here's a suggestion. If you have 4 accounts, why don't you have your own OGB helping you out? Just keep it on a second monitor and warp it to another bookmark when you can afford to shut it off for a few seconds. GǪin fact, let's get down to the main detail here: why do you have 4 accounts? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Irsam Samri
Delusions of Granduer
47
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:45:00 -
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I'm not angry. off grid boosting isn't the end all be all that would fix Eve for me, but it's a big issue that would result in a revamped and rejuvenated experience. Sometimes I fight people without OGB and sometimes with. The argument that combat ships would be the primary target is laughable since they have some of the strongest tanks in the game sub capital ships.
I can actually empathize with the 200+ man fleets, in those cases, yes your OGB would be primary. I guess I can only speak for small gang and solo |
KnowUsByTheDead
Krypteia Operations CODE.
1255
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:46:00 -
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I understand that you are leaving.
Obligatory stuffz post.
But, seriously...
I need your stuffz.
I am stuffz broke.
I also would like your corp.
That would be solid.
And if you could just pay the PLEX fee and transfer the characters over, that would be pretty awesome, too.
Alternatively, I know a guy, who can get in touch with this one dude, that is cousin to this other guy, who could probably arrange for a "Leaving EvE: Bonus Round Blowout." It could be great fun.
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4713
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:47:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Jarvin Spoo wrote:For those of you that are for it - Is there any other benefit to do this other than just 'getting the booster ship/pilot out of harms way while a fight is happening'? Like logistics and ewar, it's a force multiplier, allowing smaller fleets and lone pilots the opportunity to take on larger opponents. However, if you bring it on grid, it will be primaried and killed as quickly as possible. That will favour blop tactics. Blop wins. Thats the best reason I believe they should stay off grid. They aren't safe (though can be very, very difficult to scan down), but at least a blop can't just hit them and then wipeout the rest of the opponent.
We can conclude then that any change against OGB will also require some nerf to BLOPS dropping.
All around I think it would be a good thing to end OGB and nerf the crap out of BLOPS drops.
OGB is proof that when one thing that's OP is left to stand too long, another thing that's OP will be found to counter it, and then to speak of removing one without addressing the other is seen as a kind of heresy.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Irsam Samri
Delusions of Granduer
47
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:48:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Belt Scout wrote:Here's a suggestion. If you have 4 accounts, why don't you have your own OGB helping you out? Just keep it on a second monitor and warp it to another bookmark when you can afford to shut it off for a few seconds. GǪin fact, let's get down to the main detail here: why do you have 4 accounts?
I have 2 active at the moment, but I have 2 others that are inactive. When I have all 4 going, I fight on one and farm FW plexes with warp stabs for the others. This is antoher issue that desperately needs to be fixed, but if I can pull in 50 mil an hour semi-afk even WHILE being chased, why would I not do this? |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar E.A.R.T.H. Federation
394
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:56:00 -
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Justifying OGB is like admitting you can't win without it. Why not push for OGRR while you are at it?
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Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
739
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:58:00 -
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I have an OGB that has everything but FC 5.
I'm 100% for the removal of offgrid boosting.
You unsub so I don't have to.
Thx op
Not today spaghetti. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1109
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Posted - 2014.04.10 19:01:00 -
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Irsam Samri wrote:I can actually empathize with the 200+ man fleets, in those cases, yes your OGB would be primary. I guess I can only speak for small gang and solo In small gang and lone pvp pilot, if you bring links on-grid, how many fights are you going to get?
Any opponent that comes to fight you, or that stays to fight you is only going to do so because they already know they can win. They will bring bigger fleets and/or bigger ships to kill you. Either way, you lose as a small gang or lone pilot. Fewer fights and at losing odds. . -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Muestereate
Minions LLC
287
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Posted - 2014.04.10 19:04:00 -
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Back in the day, you know, before they dumbed down scanning so you barely need a launcher? we would go out and actually try to find these guys, you know, then shoot them. |
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