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Remedios Sonrisa	Posted - 2006.05.10 22:33:00 - [1] I don't mind losing the 1h daily, but 12h seems a bit rough.... Cheers!
Arcadia1701	Posted - 2006.05.10 22:35:00 - [2] umm lol u never lose training
Sever Aldaria	Posted - 2006.05.10 22:35:00 - [3] Not if you set a 12+ hour skill. I'd go for 1 day+ personally
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.05.10 22:35:00 - [4] Not unless you set a short skill training. Put > 3 days skill training and you should be safe. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! Corporate Consultation Services

Ivan Kirilenkov	Posted - 2006.05.10 22:36:00 - [5] you don't loose 1 hour during downtime, and you will not loose 12 hours during tomorrow's downtime unless you forget to change it beforehand.

Nee'kita Frist	Posted - 2006.05.10 22:39:00 - [6] 12 day skill for me just in case. Not that my junk pc is handling eve too well :( I need my pay to come on or I'm gonna go mad -------------- I'm just bitter
MuffinsRevenger	Posted - 2006.05.10 22:52:00 - [7] Originally by: Ivan Kirilenkov you don't loose 1 hour during downtime, and you will not loose 12 hours during tomorrow's downtime unless you forget to change it beforehand. there need to be a huge flashing popup saying "remeber long skilltraining" when you log on tonight imho
Remedios Sonrisa	Posted - 2006.05.10 22:56:00 - [8] Hmmm, ok. But I'm pretty sure b/c the training skills go by the hours and not when it is scheduled to finish, whenever the server goes down, your training stops as well, and it begins again once it is back on-line. Hence, my original post. Cheers!
Asuna	Posted - 2006.05.10 22:58:00 - [9] Originally by: Remedios Sonrisa Hmmm, ok. But I'm pretty sure b/c the training skills go by the hours and not when it is scheduled to finish, whenever the server goes down, your training stops as well, and it begins again once it is back on-line. Hence, my original post. They roll forward all training to compensate for downtimes and the like. Or something like that.
Nee'kita Frist	Posted - 2006.05.10 22:58:00 - [10] Originally by: Remedios Sonrisa Hmmm, ok. But I'm pretty sure b/c the training skills go by the hours and not when it is scheduled to finish, whenever the server goes down, your training stops as well, and it begins again once it is back on-line. Hence, my original post. No really. It still continues m'kay? Long skill training perferably a day long or more. -------------- I'm just bitter
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.05.10 23:04:00 - [11] Originally by: Asuna Originally by: Remedios Sonrisa Hmmm, ok. But I'm pretty sure b/c the training skills go by the hours and not when it is scheduled to finish, whenever the server goes down, your training stops as well, and it begins again once it is back on-line. Hence, my original post. They roll forward all training to compensate for downtimes and the like. Or something like that. Incorrect. Training is not done in real time--it simply calculates when it will be done, and displays the time remaining from that. If it had to update the training for 300,000 characters every second, the server would surely crash. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Hllaxiu	Posted - 2006.05.10 23:11:00 - [12] Originally by: Remedios Sonrisa Hmmm, ok. But I'm pretty sure b/c the training skills go by the hours and not when it is scheduled to finish, whenever the server goes down, your training stops as well, and it begins again once it is back on-line. Hence, my original post. No. If you set battleship 5 and it takes 45 days to complete, and the servers were down for the next 45 days, you'd get battleship 5 (though not many people would be left to play the game ). All thats stored on the server is the date/time when your skill is completed, it is not updated in real time. This means that you can install +5 perc and willpower implants, set battleship 5, get podded 10 seconds later, and you'll keep training at the same rate. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
D'onryu Shoqui	Posted - 2006.05.10 23:15:00 - [13] Originally by: Hllaxiu Originally by: Remedios Sonrisa Hmmm, ok. But I'm pretty sure b/c the training skills go by the hours and not when it is scheduled to finish, whenever the server goes down, your training stops as well, and it begins again once it is back on-line. Hence, my original post. No. If you set battleship 5 and it takes 45 days to complete, and the servers were down for the next 45 days, you'd get battleship 5 (though not many people would be left to play the game ). All thats stored on the server is the date/time when your skill is completed, it is not updated in real time. This means that you can install +5 perc and willpower implants, set battleship 5, get podded 10 seconds later, and you'll keep training at the same rate. pitty u cant share jump clones then lol
Andrew Gunn	Posted - 2006.05.10 23:41:00 - [14] Edited by: Andrew Gunn on 10/05/2006 23:41:08 Bah, double post. --
Andrew Gunn	Posted - 2006.05.10 23:41:00 - [15] Originally by: Ivan Kirilenkov you don't loose 1 hour during downtime, and you will not loose 12 hours during tomorrow's downtime unless you forget to change it beforehand. Originally by: Remedios Sonrisa Hmmm, ok. But I'm pretty sure b/c the training skills go by the hours and not when it is scheduled to finish, whenever the server goes down, your training stops as well, and it begins again once it is back on-line. Hence, my original post. This is too funny --
Han Grit	Posted - 2006.05.11 01:01:00 - [16] Originally by: Hllaxiu This means that you can install +5 perc and willpower implants, set battleship 5, get podded 10 seconds later, and you'll keep training at the same rate. I beg to differ. If you jump clone/change implants (being podded seems to fall into this)/raise learning skills, the timer in your skills window changes accordingly. I can't know (unlike many other people apparently) what's written in the database as I am not an admin at CCP's, but I'm sure it's slightly more complicated than 'it stores the date and time your skill will finish', as that depends on your attributes changing unpredictably at any time during such time - I'd rather guess it's got to do with stocked sp's, current learning speed and latest attributes change. If you set BS 5 when you have +5 implants and get podded 10 seconds later, I'm afraid all you have is alot less isk and a new grudge.
mrg29	Posted - 2006.05.11 01:33:00 - [17] Originally by: Han Grit Originally by: Hllaxiu This means that you can install +5 perc and willpower implants, set battleship 5, get podded 10 seconds later, and you'll keep training at the same rate. I beg to differ. If you jump clone/change implants (being podded seems to fall into this)/raise learning skills, the timer in your skills window changes accordingly. I can't know (unlike many other people apparently) what's written in the database as I am not an admin at CCP's, but I'm sure it's slightly more complicated than 'it stores the date and time your skill will finish', as that depends on your attributes changing unpredictably at any time during such time - I'd rather guess it's got to do with stocked sp's, current learning speed and latest attributes change. If you set BS 5 when you have +5 implants and get podded 10 seconds later, I'm afraid all you have is alot less isk and a new grudge. what hilaxiu said is correct. once your training is in place the skill will finish at that point in time even if you are podded and lose implants. if u change implants or use jump clones u have to stop your skill training first so afterwards when u re-start the skill the new time is calculated. -
Nicholas Barker	Posted - 2006.05.11 02:03:00 - [18] i beleive the system works by looking at how long the skill would take to change if you had default attributes (one or zero accross the board), then takes your attributes into account to figure out when exactly it should finish, it then records this time, and uses a script to create the countdown thing. This only ever changes when you're logged on, so, when the server is down, this can't change, so they just offline the server, do their crap, when it comes online the clock will still be right, and it'll finish exactly when it thourght it would. That's how i figured it worked anyway. ----------------- Where'd me pod go?
Han Grit	Posted - 2006.05.11 02:11:00 - [19] Originally by: mrg29 if u change implants or use jump clones u have to stop your skill training first so afterwards when u re-start the skill the new time is calculated. Very intriguing, I retire my comment. Hadn't taken into account that keeping a skill running may evade the recalculation, what with day to day life involving changing/replacing implants, switching skills due to RL or extended DTs and so on.
Gothikia	Posted - 2006.05.11 03:50:00 - [20] i got a skill on until saturday so we should be able to log back on then, lol
Pyrok	Posted - 2006.05.11 04:08:00 - [21] when you start training a skill, the point in time when it is finished is tagged. When that time passes, you finish training the skill. EVE would have to think that it was twelve hours ago for you to lose 12 hours of training.
Dak Hakin	Posted - 2006.05.11 06:38:00 - [22] Originally by: Han Grit Originally by: Hllaxiu This means that you can install +5 perc and willpower implants, set battleship 5, get podded 10 seconds later, and you'll keep training at the same rate. I can't know (unlike many other people apparently) what's written in the database as I am not an admin at CCP's, but I'm sure it's slightly more complicated than 'it stores the date and time your skill will finish', as that depends on your attributes changing unpredictably at any time during such time - I'd rather guess it's got to do with stocked sp's, current learning speed and latest attributes change. Didnt you know? 80% of the players in this game are either game designers (just playing Eve for ideas maybe?) or computer IT professionals/codebuilders. At least thats what they say.. "I know I am right because I design games" etc... _______________________________________________ I am the devil, and I'm here to do the devils work. Mr. Grumpy-sour-pus
Ather Ialeas	Posted - 2006.05.11 06:59:00 - [23] Originally by: Dak Hakin Didnt you know? 80% of the players in this game are either game designers (just playing Eve for ideas maybe?) or computer IT professionals/codebuilders. At least thats what they say.. "I know I am right because I design games" etc... Isn't this true for all MMO's? To everyone who thinks you have a good idea, use the Features and Ideas Discussion forum (3rd from down). That way you'll really see if you are the revolutionary new game designer who's so hot and skilled that you'll be made the new CEO of the company or are you like 99,999...% of people who just suck at it and haven't grasped the concept of the importance of resources and total balance. And yes, EVE only stores the ending date and time for skilltrain in its db. my capital mining ship idea
James Lyrus	Posted - 2006.05.11 07:41:00 - [24] Training continues across 'downtime'. (Regardless of whether it's an hour, or a week) It also continues across account suspension or bans. It is calculated when you start the skill training - this is why you have to stop training when you clone jump. It also means that if you put in some +5s to train battleship 5, unless you stop the skill for some reason, even if you get podded, you'll still get the 'fast' rate. -- We are recruiting We sell Chimeras.
Rick Dentill	Posted - 2006.05.11 07:53:00 - [25] Originally by: Dak Hakin Didnt you know? 80% of the players in this game are either game designers (just playing Eve for ideas maybe?) or computer IT professionals/codebuilders. At least thats what they say.. "I know I am right because I design games" etc... ROFL... Kewl that makes me special as I work in Mental Health. _______ http://x-universe.kiwi.nu/page.php?id=dd
loony zoon	Posted - 2006.05.11 08:39:00 - [26] Originally by: Rick Dentill Originally by: Dak Hakin Didnt you know? 80% of the players in this game are either game designers (just playing Eve for ideas maybe?) or computer IT professionals/codebuilders. At least thats what they say.. "I know I am right because I design games" etc... ROFL... Kewl that makes me special as I work in Mental Health. You are what the eve universe has been crying out for ...........please......help........us......
Drizit	Posted - 2006.05.11 08:51:00 - [27] Originally by: Rick Dentill Originally by: Dak Hakin Didnt you know? 80% of the players in this game are either game designers (just playing Eve for ideas maybe?) or computer IT professionals/codebuilders. At least thats what they say.. "I know I am right because I design games" etc... ROFL... Kewl that makes me special as I work in Mental Health. And you play Eve... Physician heal thyself --
Stephen HB	Posted - 2006.05.12 09:43:00 - [28] Originally by: Drizit Originally by: Rick Dentill Originally by: Dak Hakin Didnt you know? 80% of the players in this game are either game designers (just playing Eve for ideas maybe?) or computer IT professionals/codebuilders. At least thats what they say.. "I know I am right because I design games" etc... ROFL... Kewl that makes me special as I work in Mental Health. And you play Eve... Physician heal thyself I'm a biochemist, and I know just enough about computer programming to know I couldn't in a hundered years accomplish what CCP have done with EVE. Hats off to them. ---------- Signature core stabiliser II activated. This sig is immune to mod tampering! Rawr! EVE Tracking Guide

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