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Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 1300	Posted - 2014.04.11 21:22:00 - [31] - Quote I am just being stupid here and there. When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues.
Brusanan Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 309	Posted - 2014.04.11 21:25:00 - [32] - Quote Jeremy Kamira wrote: I have been playing eve for a few months, and other than some people, the community is pretty mature. I have interacted with quite an amount of people from all different parts and sides of the community and they usually act mature, and any hostility/hate is for a valid reason. But then i came on the forums, it seems like people troll, be hostile towards players for absolutely no reason, lots of immaturity, lots of hate. On some help threads ive posted and read i see people who just comment on how stupid that person must be not to know that, and other similar things akin to that. Almost the complete opposite of the people in-game. Could someone mind explaining this to me? (No offense intended to the nice people here, there are lots of you here too) The game is where people go to enjoy themselves. The forums are where people go to *** and moan and tell anyone who will listen about their **** ideas to make the game worse. Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM!
Oshia Launay Galactic Fringe Inc 12	Posted - 2014.04.11 21:42:00 - [33] - Quote Think of the game as a penitentiary. Some convicts are in for life and they've been around for a long time, they play cards and power games at the tables furthest back from the guards, other convicts stay clear and show respect. The penitentiary is home. They've got their habits there, and they don't like change. Change is bad, it's taken them years to reach their current status, to establish themselves. Change can only be for the worse. New inmates now ... New inmates do not know the rules, new inmates talk too much, new inmates do not show proper respect, new inmates threaten the status-quo. New inmates are change. Change is bad. Even worse, new inmates have not proved themselves, they have earned nothing. New inmates need to understand their place at the bottom ... or be dealt with. The forum is the recreational area when convicts and inmates are thrown together ...
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 4597	Posted - 2014.04.11 21:58:00 - [34] - Quote New to the internet? "The forums" are always a fair bit worse than the game's population. Which still makes us a damn sight more friendly than most other games. Hang out on the League of Legends forum for a few days, then mentally apply the rule of thumb I mentioned above, that the game is only a bit better than their hideous forums. At least EVE doesn't have humanoid character models, otherwise we'd have the "adult version" fan drawings to deal with too. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." -áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
Ralph King-Griffin Var Foundation inc. 681	Posted - 2014.04.11 22:11:00 - [35] - Quote The forums here were weaponised a long time ago. There a reason new citizens Q&A has restrictions. General discussion in particular needs a "Here be Trolls" sticky as a signpost. The sub forums tend to get left out of it ( bar f&I ) . Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-áIf In Doubt....Do....Excessively. Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
BrundleMeth Caldari Provisions Caldari State 104	Posted - 2014.04.11 22:34:00 - [36] - Quote Posting while nekked. Play while in diaper...leather...
Kitty Bear Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance 1258	Posted - 2014.04.11 22:36:00 - [37] - Quote Tollen Gallen wrote: I like Snow. yellow snow is the best snow don't listen to the lies
KnowUsByTheDead Krypteia Operations CODE. 1272	Posted - 2014.04.11 22:37:00 - [38] - Quote Oshia Launay wrote: Think of the game as a penitentiary. Some convicts are in for life and they've been around for a long time, they play cards and power games at the tables furthest back from the guards, other convicts stay clear and show respect. The penitentiary is home. They've got their habits there, and they don't like change. Change is bad, it's taken them years to reach their current status, to establish themselves. Change can only be for the worse. New inmates now ... New inmates do not know the rules, new inmates talk too much, new inmates do not show proper respect, new inmates threaten the status-quo. New inmates are change. Change is bad. Even worse, new inmates have not proved themselves, they have earned nothing. New inmates need to understand their place at the bottom ... or be dealt with. The forum is the recreational area when convicts and inmates are thrown together ... Excellent analogy. +1 Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 4390	Posted - 2014.04.11 22:46:00 - [39] - Quote Oshia Launay wrote: Think of the game as a penitentiary. Some convicts are in for life and they've been around for a long time, they play cards and power games at the tables furthest back from the guards, other convicts stay clear and show respect. The penitentiary is home. They've got their habits there, and they don't like change. Change is bad, it's taken them years to reach their current status, to establish themselves. Change can only be for the worse. New inmates now ... New inmates do not know the rules, new inmates talk too much, new inmates do not show proper respect, new inmates threaten the status-quo. New inmates are change. Change is bad. Even worse, new inmates have not proved themselves, they have earned nothing. New inmates need to understand their place at the bottom ... or be dealt with. The forum is the recreational area when convicts and inmates are thrown together ... None of you seem to understand... I'm not locked in here with you... you're locked in here with me! The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
Drone 16 Law Dogz 161	Posted - 2014.04.11 23:03:00 - [40] - Quote Oshia Launay wrote: Think of the game as a penitentiary. Some convicts are in for life and they've been around for a long time, they play cards and power games at the tables furthest back from the guards, other convicts stay clear and show respect. The penitentiary is home. They've got their habits there, and they don't like change. Change is bad, it's taken them years to reach their current status, to establish themselves. Change can only be for the worse. New inmates now ... New inmates do not know the rules, new inmates talk too much, new inmates do not show proper respect, new inmates threaten the status-quo. New inmates are change. Change is bad. Even worse, new inmates have not proved themselves, they have earned nothing. New inmates need to understand their place at the bottom ... or be dealt with. The forum is the recreational area where convicts and inmates are thrown together ... Tl/dr is Don't drop the soap... It puts the peanutbutter on itself or it leaves the bonus round... - E1's greatest Hits
bunmastahflex Caldari Provisions Caldari State 4	Posted - 2014.04.12 04:06:00 - [41] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: At least EVE doesn't have humanoid character models, otherwise we'd have the "adult version" fan drawings to deal with too. I guess you haven't seen the boobies on Chribba's latest PlayThing centerfold.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 4603	Posted - 2014.04.12 04:10:00 - [42] - Quote bunmastahflex wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: At least EVE doesn't have humanoid character models, otherwise we'd have the "adult version" fan drawings to deal with too. I guess you haven't seen the boobies on Chribba's latest PlayThing centerfold. No, I meant more along the lines of "Dat Ashe" memes and the like. Just don't google it at work. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." -áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
Abyss Azizora Astro Industrial Technologies 96	Posted - 2014.04.12 05:06:00 - [43] - Quote Benny Ohu wrote: there aren't any npc forum alts ingame Pretty much this.
Leviathani Darkri Asuratech Industrial Corp AAA Citizens 3	Posted - 2014.04.12 05:40:00 - [44] - Quote Confirming that Unsuccessful At Everything is unsuccessful at changing the threadhnought.
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 5339	Posted - 2014.04.12 06:05:00 - [45] - Quote Jallukola wrote: Solecist Project wrote: The 1% rule of internet culture applies. 90% of the people are mere generic players 9% modify existing content. 1% creates content. We are the 1%. Best joke I heard all week. Well, assuming he's (former) Solstice Project, ha has created a ton of content in game. I have too, even if in another way. Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 5339	Posted - 2014.04.12 06:08:00 - [46] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: Chribba wrote: Half of the trolls here never got past the NPE complexity of the game so last resort to be a "member" of the community they troll their ways here. /c I've noticed you being far more present ... ... and far more aggressive as of late. Well ... far more aggressive ... for your standards at least. Yeah by this point he could get evil enough to take a photo of a bunny! Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel
Salvos Rhoska 1038	Posted - 2014.04.12 06:33:00 - [47] - Quote Mostly the forum community is fine, imo, with a few really outstanding contributors. Im also frequently surprised by what "once in a blue moon" posters create. They, to me, are the most valuable, and a reminder of the fact there is a much larger community at hand, and of how bright and clear headed much of that is. Unfortunately there is also a small squadron of dedicated stonewall/whitewash/spin alts whos assigned purpose is to disrupt certain topics in favor of vested interests. These are, to me, the only toxic element here. There can be no constructive discussion with people intent on sabotaging it. Communication is a very fragile thing, especially in a text based format where they can get away with lack of intellectual integrity and honesty that in a IRL face-to-face situation wouls have the entire room of wider participants just staring at them shaking their heads, facepalming, saying "what is this ** doing". ------------**
Catherine Wolfisheim Terran Republican Guard 257	Posted - 2014.04.12 06:36:00 - [48] - Quote Jeremy, I don't think you are entirely aware of what you are talking about; not the whole forum or game community acts the way you presume it does, and there's no such clear differential line of the players that you meet on the forums, and those you meet materially in-game. Actually, you'd be surprised is more or less the same people, but using a forum alt, or just their "main" characters to post on the forums. So, there you go, you are talking to possibly more or less the same people you might find in-game. ~ C.W. G£¬ Personal Blog http://catherine-wolfisheim.tumblr.com
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 4606	Posted - 2014.04.12 06:37:00 - [49] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: These are, to me, the only toxic element here. This from the guy who is on record saying "Maybe I'll read the newspaper and find that someone tracked down a griefer irl and murdered him. And I'll laugh". You're the single most toxic poster on these forums since Ace Uoweme. And that's something, considering you don't talk about feminism or world of warcraft nonstop like she did. You do not have any room to lecture anyone about "toxic" posting. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." -áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
Solecist Project Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 226	Posted - 2014.04.12 06:37:00 - [50] - Quote Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: Jallukola wrote: Solecist Project wrote: The 1% rule of internet culture applies. 90% of the people are mere generic players 9% modify existing content. 1% creates content. We are the 1%. Best joke I heard all week. Well, assuming he's (former) Solstice Project, ha has created a ton of content in game. I have too, even if in another way. Rumors say, there's a DUST armor wearing "my" name and it's description, creepily enough, is pretty fitting too for the time back then. Rumors. Hi VV. ^^
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 5341	Posted - 2014.04.12 06:41:00 - [51] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Unfortunately there is also a small squadron of dedicated stonewall/whitewash/spin alts whos assigned purpose is to disrupt certain topics in favor of vested interests. These are, to me, the only toxic element here. There can be no constructive discussion with people intent on sabotaging it. Communication is a very fragile thing, especially in a text based format where they can get away with lack of intellectual integrity and honesty that in a IRL face-to-face situation wouls have the entire room of wider participants just staring at them shaking their heads, facepalming, saying "what is this **** doing". ... or voting them as next Senator! Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20652	Posted - 2014.04.12 06:48:00 - [52] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Unfortunately there is also a small squadron of dedicated stonewall/whitewash/spin alts whos assigned purpose is to disrupt certain topics in favor of vested interests. These are, to me, the only toxic element here. There can be no constructive discussion with people intent on sabotaging it. Communication is a very fragile thing, especially in a text based format where they can get away with lack of intellectual integrity and honesty that in a IRL face-to-face situation wouls have the entire room of wider participants just staring at them shaking their heads, facepalming, saying "what is this **** doing". You're talking about yourself, presumably, and your long and distinguished history of refusing to answer simple questions, to drag threads off-topic, to introduce very creepy real-life connections, and absolute belief in stonewalling, strawmen, and wilful ignorance of what has been written as your only argumentative tricks? Yes, you have indeed become a very toxic element very quickly. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Salvos Rhoska 1039	Posted - 2014.04.12 06:51:00 - [53] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: These are, to me, the only toxic element here. This from the guy who is on record saying "Maybe I'll read the newspaper and find that someone tracked down a griefer irl and murdered him. And I'll laugh". You're the single most toxic poster on these forums since Ace Uoweme. And that's something, considering you don't talk about feminism or world of warcraft nonstop like she did. You do not have any room to lecture anyone about "toxic" posting. Here is a prime example of whom I was speaking: Notice the false implication and dishonesty in claiming I have said something I never have. Nowhere have I said I would laugh at a murder. Notice the ad hominem, character assasination and attempt at defaming by means of association with some Uoweme poster whom I have never even heard of. Notice the attempt to tackle and discredit myself for pointing out who the actual toxic cadre of posters is, by attacking me personally and trying to role reverse me as being "worse" than them. This is also a guy who has, dishonestly and without integrity, repeatedly stated I have claimed to be a lawyer, but has nowhere been able to provide proof of that. ------------
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20652	Posted - 2014.04.12 06:56:00 - [54] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: AAAH and Tippia also joins in to so exactly the same. Nope. I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy of your complaint, since you have quickly established a pattern of doing exactly what you accused the toxic elements of doing. It only follows that you are one of those toxic elements. Now, you're doing it even more by attacking people personally and trying to reverse the roles to make them seem worse than you. Quote: So transparent. So dilettante. GÇªand of course, your only response is by piling on even more fallacies. And yes, I did notice your ad hominem, character assasination and attempt at defaming. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Salvos Rhoska 1039	Posted - 2014.04.12 07:01:00 - [55] - Quote I posted by observations about the existance of a toxic cadre of posters. Notice how members of that group feel threatened by that and immediately begin proving me to be correct.. Thanks for identifying yourselves, though I did not name you. Thanks for proving my observations correct by your own subsequent actions. ------------
Benny Ohu Beneath the Ashes Margin of Silence 2873	Posted - 2014.04.12 07:03:00 - [56] - Quote it was pretty obvious you were going for 'grr tippia'
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20652	Posted - 2014.04.12 07:05:00 - [57] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: I posted by observations about the existance of a toxic cadre of posters. And I posted that your observations match you to a T. Quote: Thanks for identifying yourselves, though I did not name you. You're confusing me with you, and your subsequent posting has indeed shown that you match your observations. If you don't like the implications of what you said and of your own behaviour, only you are in the position to change that (and you really should). Until then, though, you are that toxic element you're decrying. Trying to project your faults onto others does only serves to reinforce that toxicity. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Solecist Project Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 227	Posted - 2014.04.12 07:08:00 - [58] - Quote Tippia wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: I posted by observations about the existance of a toxic cadre of posters. And I posted that your observations match you to a T. Quote: Thanks for identifying yourselves, though I did not name you. You're confusing me with you, and your subsequent posting has indeed shown that you match your observations. If you don't like the implications of what you said and of your own behaviour, only you are in the position to change that (and you really should). Until then, though, you are that toxic element you're decrying. It's called Projection. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
Solecist Project Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 227	Posted - 2014.04.12 07:10:00 - [59] - Quote Did you set me as blue, Tippia? The forum shows that I have set you to blue, but so far I didn't. I've noticed these weird hiccups to happen.
Benny Ohu Beneath the Ashes Margin of Silence 2875	Posted - 2014.04.12 07:11:00 - [60] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: Did you set me as blue, Tippia? The forum shows that I have set you to blue, but so far I didn't. I've noticed these weird hiccups to happen. the forums keeps showing random people as contacts for me

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