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Tippia
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Posted - 2014.04.12 14:57:00 -
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Fanfest stream and the weekly skin release were recently announced. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.12 22:43:00 -
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Mxxpower wrote:Before PLEX was introduced, EVE was going under. If PLEX price becomes unaffordable it will happen again.
The ability to for the average player to pay for game time by actively playing the game is what saved EVE. Really? What do you base these claims on? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:26:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:CCP wants money so they use their Developer power to instantly materialize isk to purchase all the lower priced PLEX to change the now cheapest price to what they feel is now a high enough baseline to influence more people to pay with subscriptions rather than PLEX. That would make sense if it weren't for their making more money on people using PLEX than people paying for a regular subscription. Oh, and for the whole GÇ£create ISK out of nowhereGÇ¥. Oh, and for the GÇ£they're giving away tons of PLEX right nowGÇ¥. So yeah, it doesn't actually make any sense at all. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:33:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Maybe that's why it went up, because of all those hundreds of plex they bought to give away. You mean the ones they didn't get by buying them?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:42:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:So then exactly 100% without a doubt, what is the precise reason PLEX went up to 740m? More people are using them for an ever-increasing number of services, and fewer (or the same) amount of people than before are buying them for real money. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:47:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:There's no proof it's not correct. GǪaside from it having no basis in reality, which makes it false by default.
Quote:This is more likely the cause than my suggestion, but mine, IMO, is alot more fun to consider. Not really, no.
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:53:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:your opinion Not really, no. What you're engaging in is a classic onus probandi fallacy. It's not humorous, just (wilfully) ignorant. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:59:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Then ignore it. I know you have a fondness for lying, but that's not a good reason to let you keep doing it.
Quote:You can't prove me wrong 100%. I don't have to. You're wrong by default, even more so when the actual reasons are fairly well known and readily obvious. You prove yourself 100% wrong by failing to prove yourself even 1% right. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:01:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Does it matter? Again, I know you have a fondness for lying, but that's not a good reason to let you keep doing it. Also, you know that you're breaking the forum rules by doing so, right?
Quote:This entire thread is speculation. Nope. Just the incorrect stuff you've invented. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:06:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Yet when you jokingly speculate, it's fine. It's acceptable. GǪlargely because he's not speculating, nor rumour-mongering about CCP's activities. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:11:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:So I'll wait for him to prove to me that "jimblidge" did indeed cause the price raise by himself. GǪwhich he never claimed. That's just one of your usual distortion-based straw men. It is also not at odds with what I said.
Quote:Because you yourself have said that he's not speculating. Which means it's the actual answer, and if his answer is correct, then yours is wrong since it was different from his. No, it does not mean it's the actual answer, and it does not contradict what I said either way. You're just being very slopping in your reading, as always. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:23:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote: You mean in the post that makes no mention of causing the price raise by himself?
No, he did not. That's just you being sloppy in your reading, and distorting what people say to manufacture yet another one of your strawmen, as always. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:30:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:His answer doesn't clarify. GǪwhich is why your assertion is a strawman: because you inject things he never actually said to create an argument that was never made.
Quote:Considering no defining parameter was established, speculation, what the entire thread is, is allowed. It's not speculation, though, nor does his post alter what is and isn't allowed.
The nonsensical rumour-mongering you're engaging in is still against the rules.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:35:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:The entirety of the thread is rumour-mongering. Not really, no.
Quote:None of use know the exact answer so every answer provided is a speculative rumour. Even yours Most of the answers, including mine, are entirely factual. Your illogical conspiracy theory is not.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:40:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:The only people I see here breaking any forum rules are you and Kaarous:
2. Be respectful toward others at all times. 4. Personal attacks are prohibited. 5. Trolling is prohibited. Too bad we don't break those rules, though. You, on the other hand, are edging very close to #5 and #31. Oh, and your insistence on lying about what people say isn't particularly respectful, so #2 is in danger as wellGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:41:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:So you believe. So I know.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:49:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:In the mean time, try to refrain from breaking the forum's rules. No need to GÇ£tryGÇ¥ what I'm already doing. You should heed your own advice, though, especially in relation to #5 and #31.
And again, it's not a question of believing, but of knowing. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:54:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Whatever you may believe you know, you're allowed to believe to know. Again, it's not a question of belief but of established fact. If you want to argue contrary to facts, I'd like to hear your justification. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:56:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:So you believe Nope. What I believe is something completely different and not the topic of the thread.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 04:03:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Well you often break forum rules, specifically: 2. Be respectful toward others at all times. 4. Personal attacks are prohibited. 5. Trolling is prohibited. Nope. By the way, why are you so anxious to pull this thread off topic?
Quote:While on the other hand, I must be highly desireable considering how often you go out of your way to get me to interact with you. Non sequitur. You are simply a cornucopia of errors, fallacies, and misinformation GÇö stuff that needs to be corrected lest it spreads to the less fortunate. It's not a highly desirable job, but it needs to be done.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 04:14:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:You mentioned breaking forum rules first. So? That doesn't mean you should keep doing it. Oh, and I mentioned it because you asked why it matters that you're lying.
Quote:My initial post was "on topic" Your initial post went straight for the jugular and broke rule #31, and as your quotation marks indicate, you know this full well. You then quickly veered off-topic by trying to argue against my correcting your errors, rather than about what we know for a fact about the price of PLEX. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 04:31:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Then you started trolling me No. Then I kept explaining why your fallacies need to be kept in check, even for your own good. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 04:35:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:That's your opinion. No, it is my activity and my reason.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.13 04:42:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Activity and intention to push forward your opinion. Nope.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2014.04.27 13:14:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:One possibility is To bad that being possible is completely meaningless. If you want to just list such meaningless inputs, let's start doing so in earnest.
GÇó It is possible that the prices are going up because the FSB is silently killing off all PLEX sellers. GÇó It is possible that the prices are going up because the database transaction query is accidentally salami-slicing all orders. GÇó It is possible that the prices are not going up, but only seem to be doing so. GÇó It is possible that the prices are going up in spite of CCP lowering the prices because they want to make more money. GÇó It is possible that the prices are going up because of hidden price-increase mechanics built into the market. GÇó It is possible that the prices are going up because CCP Dr.EyjoG is running an experiment. GÇó It is possible that the prices are going up because I want them to. GÇó It is possible that the prices are going up because of falcon.
GǪjust off the top of my head. Please add more as you come up with them. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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