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MeBiatch
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Posted - 2014.04.14 14:49:00 -
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Liam Inkuras wrote:Front page baby! OH MY GOD YOU DIDN'T NERF THE MACH!!!1  Edit: what may your logic behind giving the nightmare 30% bonus to AB speed rather than 20% like the rest of the line be?
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:28:00 -
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[quote=Marc Callan]From what I can tell, the Rattlesnake's missile velocity bonus was pretty much worthless[quote]
i dunno i typically had torps fitted to mine... though that was before the cruise boost.
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:11:00 -
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hmm looks like PL just got a new "cat"
lets call them snake cats...
with the way drone assist works now.
50 drones is 25 guys which is loads better then 10 guys.
so here are the fittings i am thinking of:
high (6): 5 x cruise missile laucher II
1 x DLA
mid(7): MJD sensor booster 2 x Omni II invul II 2 large shield extender II
lows(6): DCU II 3 DDA II 2 BCU II (if it fits if not one and then a PDU II)
rigs: 1 em rig 1 shield extender rig 1 sentry drone rig
Drones: 3 x garde II 3 x Bouncer II 5 x warrior II
not sure what all the stats are going to be but it looks like solid damage and solid EHP. that and have a few carriers around with extra drones will make this a pretty powerfull fleet ship. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |

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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:17:00 -
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Medalyn Isis wrote:MeBiatch wrote:hmm looks like PL just got a new "cat"
lets call them snake cats...
with the way drone assist works now.
50 drones is 25 guys which is loads better then 10 guys. Great, back to ****** gameplay mechanics again.
yeah but at this point the price is worth it... and tbh i would think server load was the real reason for the nerf as much as they claim "afk" gameplay being the reason for the change... There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |

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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:24:00 -
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TrouserDeagle wrote:why are you posting on reddit you can downvote on reddit... There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |

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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:53:00 -
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Jherik wrote: im sure you just threw it together but god that fit is terrible
umm yup off the top of my head...
what would you change?
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:32:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:In market news, the Rattlesnake, previously selling for between 410 and 430 million isk, is now battling between price spikes and undercutting at around 610 mil.
The market has spoken.
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:44:00 -
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Catherine Laartii wrote:I am amused at how people think the Rattler is getting better. Sure, the dps increase is nice, but they're forgetting the fact that with the new drone bonuses, It's completely vulnerable to getting kited It doesn't even have access to mediums, and while it's technically feasible to put rapid heavy launchers on it, that's entirely impractical as people will likely be using cruise missiles all the time, specifically in a pve setting. So basically if you get dropped on and the mission rats can't take them out, you're screwed.
1. you can use 5 medium drones including ecm or even 5 light
2. its call a mobile fitting depot
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:51:00 -
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Maximus Andendare wrote:So does this still mean that Incursion fleets will not want Rattlesnakes? And honestly, why choose a Rattlesnake over a Domi? Wouldn't a Domi's application bonuses be superior for putting the dps down?
afaik
domi
5 x 1.5 = 7.5 effective drones + 6 turrets but has a bonus to damage application
snake:
2 x 3.75 = 7.5 plus the 5 missile * 1.5 = 7.5 effective missiles.
hmm now that you mention it does seem a tad low for missing the tracking/optimal range bonus for a 1.5 more turret/missile
now if that missile bonus was a generic rate of fire bonus or if they upped the snake role bonus to 300 % that in theory make up for the lack of optimal range and tracking for drones. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |

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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:19:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Well this is extremely interesting on the RS front. The missile DPS increase is nice, though prior the drone side was where the DPS was most concentrated making the choice of which damage increasing mods to fit obvious. Need to play around with this to see what kind of real increase in damage potential including fitting is there.
back when i did havens my snake was fit with torps...
i wonder how much dps the torp/orge snake will do now...
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:03:00 -
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scorchlikeshiswhiskey wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:I'm somewhat surprised that no one's noticed that the Rattlesnake buff is clearly intended for rapid heavy missile launchers. The velocity bonus never applied, and a rate of fire actually decreases overall DPS with rapid launchers. An additional launcher and +50% damage thermal/kinetic damage bonus gives these a 7.5-launcher equivalent in most scenarios. To put this in perspective, the Rattlesnake has more potential DPS with rapid heavy launchers than a similarly-equipped Raven or Typhoon - and almost approaches a Navy Raven. And then the drone bonus. I can hear my hopes of an actual missile faction sinking beneath the waves even as I type this. Why do I bother hoping that missiles will ever be more than a parlor trick in Eve?
How awesome would it be if the gila and snake both got secondary role bonus that reduced rapid launcher roload time to 20 seconds.
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:45:00 -
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TrouserDeagle wrote:MeBiatch wrote:
How awesome would it be if the gila and snake both got secondary role bonus that reduced rapid launcher roload time to 20 seconds.
not awesome at all
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Posted - 2014.04.14 21:00:00 -
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Harvey James wrote:any comment on the shield recharge rates?
I do remember back in 09 the snake had the best sub cap passive tank.
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Posted - 2014.04.14 21:13:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Any update on the spruce goose? (Nestor) No not spruce goose, great white whale. Moby ****.
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Posted - 2014.04.14 21:54:00 -
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Silvetica Dian wrote:Catherine Laartii wrote:I am amused at how people think the Rattler is getting better. Sure, the dps increase is nice, but they're forgetting the fact that with the new drone bonuses, It's completely vulnerable to getting kited It doesn't even have access to mediums, and while it's technically feasible to put rapid heavy launchers on it, that's entirely impractical as people will likely be using cruise missiles all the time, specifically in a pve setting. So basically if you get dropped on and the mission rats can't take them out, you're screwed. I have yet to see a PVE rattlesnake survive any attack in null. Or kill a single attacker. We kill quite a lot of them so even if what you say is true it changes nothing. (even the guy that used ecm drones to escape the 1st grid died after he landed from warp.
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Posted - 2014.04.14 21:55:00 -
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Darius Caliente wrote:Has any thought been given to the nerf to Rattlesnake (and it's smaller companions) when considering utility drones. Can we perhaps get the same percentage buff given across all drone classes?
Example: 2 x EC-900 == weak 5 x EC-900 == Fighting Chance 2 x EC-900 * 275% == Fighting Chance
The same holds true for logi drones, web drones, target painter drones, etc. In fact, with the increased missile damage, target painter drones may be useful to the Rattlesnake if they get the same boost.
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Posted - 2014.04.14 22:44:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Still a little concerned that the bonuses for lesser drones (small, med for rattlesnake, and small for gila) have not been implemented or carried over. The rattlesnake can at least fit full flights of them so not such a problem, but still a loss. Really on the Rattlesnake it is more OcD than anything.  The Gila however will only be able to field 4 lights, plus it has lost the bonus to light drones. The new drone stats will help some, but This does make it significantly more vulnerable to small fast ships in both Pve and Pvp.  Please CCP rise, take this into account and give a bonus to lights on the Gila and lights and mediums on the Rattlesnake. Possibly you intend to do this but are waiting for feedback? There is now feedback.  The general opinion is positive (theres always exceptions who hate change) but the issue mentioned above is concerning and fixing it will take nothing away from your otherwise excellent changes or make them more powerful than you have made them. Tl;dr give appropriate bonus back to balance light drones on Gila.. (and if you are feeling generous on the Rattlesnake too.)
How about this.
Reduce the role bonus on all guritas ships by 50% bonus so for the snake your looking at 225% bonus to drone hp and damage.
What I would then do is add 10% to drone damage and hp into the galente ship bonus.
Then add the missile bonus to the role.
Then add 5mb to the gila.
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:35:00 -
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this is the snake I would like to see:
RATTLESNAKE
Gallente Battleship Bonus: 10% drone damage and hitpoints
Caldari Battleship Bonus: 4% bonus to all shield resistances
Role Bonus: 50% bonus to missile velocity 225% bonus to heavy and sentry drone damage and hitpoints
Slot layout: 6H, 7M, 6L; 0 turrets, 5 launchers(+1) Fittings: 10000 PWG, 710 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 12750 / 8940(-358) / 9960 Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 5350(+38) / 1154000ms / 4.59 Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 94 / .128 / 99300000 / 18.45s Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50(-75) / 200(-200) Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 75km / 100 / 7 Sensor strength: 30 Signature radius: 450(-10)
what this would do is with either 2 sentries or 2 heavies you would have 9.75 drones (vs the 7.5) you have now you regain the velocity bonus so that torps and heavies go far.
plus by making the standard drone bonus stay you get 7.5 drones for small and medium.
personally this feels allot more like the snake should be. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |

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Posted - 2014.04.15 04:50:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:MeBiatch wrote:this is the snake I would like to see: Yes, we'd all like another second role bonus for our Pirate battleshipsGǪ 
BHAALGORN Role Bonus: 100% bonus to Large Energy Turret Damage note: Energy Vampires fitted to this ship will drain targeted ship's capacitor regardless of your own capacitor level
MACHARIEL Role Bonus: 25% bonus to Large Projectile Turret rate of fire note: This ship has increased warp speed and warp acceleration
NESTOR Role Bonus: 50% bonus to remote armor repairer amount 100% bonus to remote armor repairer range 50% bonus to large energy turret optimal range 50% increased strength for scan probes +10 virus strength for relic and data analyzers ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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