Sarah Flynt
Federation Interstellar Resources
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Posted - 2014.04.16 17:44:00 -
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I don't know you and I usually don't waste my time with New Order trolls, but as you name me personally, I'll bite. For those that don't know me: I'm one of those people who hunt gankers and a channel-op in the Anti-ganking channel.
admiral root wrote:Mostly they share terrible advice on everything from fitting a mining ship to proper recruiting practice.
If the channel is so bad and the advice that's being shared is so terrible, why is the channel constantly growing despite us not advertising it aggressively? And why do so many gankers want to have an alt in there?
admiral root wrote:Anyone giving good advice tends to get the Spanish inquisition from people like Sarah Flynt and Jennifer en Marland, who seem to dislike anyone disagreeing with their view of things.
Which type of "good advice" do you mean? The one below or the one that Feyd is bragging about? Due to the nature of the channel and due to past experiences we are forced to moderate the channel. We'll kick anybody who wants to disrupt channel operation. That includes but is not limited to:
- gankers, known ganker-alts or ganker-helpers
- people advertising ganking (unless it's clear that it's for fighting gankers)
- people advertising any form of extortion racket, including but not limited to selling mining permits
- trolls and spammers
- people behaving as if they're 12 years old
This might come as surprise to you but there are a few New Order members/alts in the channel that we know of and who haven't been banned because they know how to behave and to be constructive.
admiral root wrote:They also seem to have an obsession with using cloaked ships to surprise gankers, and wanting to camp multiple gates and stations at the same time in the hopes of killing someone who's -5 or below. Their purpose for those camps is to safeguard mining ops - they give you a blank look when you suggest that it would be easier (and require fewer people) to simply camp your own mining op.
I for one only started to train into a Falcon (that's probably what you mean by cloaked ships) when the gankers that I hunted at the time started to use covert scouts. So please don't mix up cause and effect. The mere fact that you're explicitly mentioning it here further shows me, that it was the right decision. There are many of us who only rarely mine (like myself) or don't mine at all, so I suppose that "good advice" that you're giving there only means: "go away and mind your own business". Sorry to disappoint you, but: we won't do that.
admiral root wrote:This is completely true. Even the mere suggestion of pre-emptively ganking an obvious gank fleet will get you into big trouble with these people if the gankers aren't -5 or below.
If that was even remotely true, the first two people that I'd have to kick from the channel were Jennifer and myself. Any discussion or advice about how to fight gankers is welcome which also includes ganking them or their scouts. There was a recent heated discussion about ganking miners that bought a mining permit however. As the discussion lead nowhere as there were basically only two opinions clashing: "do it or don't do it", we ended it and it is still unwanted because it only leads to a heated atmosphere. Nobody was kicked because of it btw.
Also: there are certain people who constantly tell other players that they're playing EVE wrong. Hint: it's not us.
I'm not going to comment on the rest of your hateful trolling except for one thing as I've seen it come up here and there:
admiral root wrote:Dang, one of the true anti-gankers even set them up a mumble server, but the "leaders" of this group consider hanging out on voice comms to be metagaming to an unacceptable level. Jennifer already commented on the first part, so I'll skip that. First: we don't have any leaders. Second: has it ever occurred to you that many people simply don't like to be on voice comms because they hate to wear a headset all night or don't want to be bothered with it all the time? Personally I only use voice comms for fleet ops where it can be very helpful but other than that I really don't care about it. But I also don't tell others to not use it; by all means: do it if you like it but don't tell others that they're inferior players because they don't. |