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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
268
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:33:00 -
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Hi!
It's me again, the ugly duckling stuck in puberty with no chance of ever becoming a beautifull swan!
As you who know me know, there's always an introduction completely disconnected with what I am actually talking about. I guess this thread isn't really different.
Please note that a TL;DR is provided at the end of the post.
Every single one of you still is encouraged to donate to the ... ... "Save the World from my face" rescue fond so I can resculpt.
You'll do the community a service! You are doing this more for yourself than for me!
That's it already. On to the topic.
So I've heard there's this thing called Anti Ganking and besides it's seriously stupid name I wanted to know more about it.
What I know can be summed up in a few lines.
There's a chatroom for these people, but I don't know the name. It would be pointless anyway as I can safely assume that it's full of spies.
Smart move, btw, having a pointless public chatroom for people to build trust and then violate it when it's necessary.
Btw... do you like my black hair? I was always more the redhead guy... guy :( ...
So... what do they do?
I can make a few assumptions to fill this post.
Some AntiGankers are probably self righteous delusionalists. (is that even a word? I like it) It means that they believe to be the moral highground and everyone who isn't as good as them ... ... or doesn't agree with them ... ... is somehow bad/etc.
These are bad. Actually worse than most gankers.
I can guess that it's those who sit at stations, waiting for a ganker to undock and then proclaim SUCCESS!!! MY GREATEST ACHIEVEMENT!!!! (read this in a slight russian accent, aka Dexters Laboratory) if they manage to shoot one before he docks or when he undocks.
Okay...
So I wonder about if there are people who can actually be taken seriously. So not these types or Gevlon Goblin types. No, I don't read his blog.
I have tried once and then needed to visit reddits eyebleach subreddit, plus a full day of playing chess at hard level to make sure I'll regain the braincells lost during reading it. I'm just kidding, but I really can't take him seriously. Maybe he doesn't want to be taken seriously, though.
I can't say I like or dislike you, but your PR manager is an idiot, or in other words... YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG! *cough*
Please note that I have no idea if he is still at it. Thanks.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo............ (Darth Vader)
What's the goal? What are they trying to protect? Miners only or other ships too? System wide action? Whole constellations? Are there "protected" regions? Is there a group with actually larger following? Any religious RP types? Only self righteous losers or actually people who can be taken seriously? Are there actual PR efforts and if so, why don't I know of it?
Thank you for all the information and detail you can provide. Yes, I am serious.
(I lied about the TL;DR)
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Hevymetal
POT Corp Semper Ardens Alliance
247
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:38:00 -
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TL;DR
Don't waste your time reading.
The fight between Anti and gankers happens everywhere. You will find all types of people in Eve. The goal of the Antis is to stop ganking. The goal of the gankers is to gank. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4438
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:42:00 -
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I'm guessing this will be locked for a lack of meaningful content.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
575
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:47:00 -
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A chance to gank the gankers? Where can I go to sign up?? |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
268
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:50:00 -
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Hevymetal wrote:TL;DR
Don't waste your time reading.
The fight between Anti and gankers happens everywhere. You will find all types of people in Eve. The goal of the Antis is to stop ganking. The goal of the gankers is to gank. There's the New Order. What's the opposite?
Is there any? |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
268
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:54:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:A chance to gank the gankers? Where can I go to sign up?? Ganking the gankers?
No... that's pointless.
Do you like tears? |

Thellero Orlenard
Overseer 55
0
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:56:00 -
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TL;DR
Solecist Project wrote: 1. What's the goal? 2. What are they trying to protect? Miners only or other ships too? 3. System wide action? Whole constellations? Are there "protected" regions? 4. Is there a group with actually larger following? 5. Any religious RP types? 6. Only self righteous losers or actually people who can be taken seriously? 7. Are there actual PR efforts and if so, why don't I know of it?
1. Either "justified" murder or "protect the carebears, they're human too!" 2. I dunno, I would say carebears because they're great targets 3. See 4. 4. I'm not sure, there's probably some groups that go and protect the carebears, I would say it's more like the type of "group" the hackers manifesto refers to. To quote,
The Mentor wrote: I am a Hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all. After all... we're all alike.
So I suppose it's more of an idea of free carebears and each individual just eliminating the gankers when they can. 5. Like crusaders? I dunno. 6. You may be able to find a few serious people. I plan to start SBing them on my main soon, I'm in it for the highsec kills though. 7. PR? If that means player rights, you have the right to HTFU, use your kill right and go -censored for fear of ban-. |

E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
577
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:56:00 -
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Always herd ganker tears best tears.  |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
268
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:58:00 -
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Thellero Orlenard wrote:TL;DR Solecist Project wrote:1. What's the goal? 2. What are they trying to protect? Miners only or other ships too? 3. System wide action? Whole constellations? Are there "protected" regions? 4. Is there a group with actually larger following? 5. Any religious RP types? 6. Only self righteous losers or actually people who can be taken seriously? 7. Are there actual PR efforts and if so, why don't I know of it?
1. Either "justified" murder or "protect the carebears, they're human too!" 2. I dunno, I would say carebears because they're great targets 3. See 4. 4. I'm not sure, there's probably some groups that go and protect the carebears, I would say it's more like the type of "group" the hackers manifesto refers to. To quote, The Mentor wrote:I am a Hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all. After all... we're all alike.
So I suppose it's more of an idea of free carebears and each individual just eliminating the gankers when they can. 5. Like crusaders? I dunno. 6. You may be able to find a few serious people. I plan to start SBing them on my main soon, I'm in it for the highsec kills though. 7. PR? If that means player rights, you have the right to HTFU, use your kill right and go -censored for fear of ban-. Thank you for your post.
PR is Public Relations. Like James does it or like Goblin fails at it.
You plan on discoing? Who where what?
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Thellero Orlenard
Overseer 55
1
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:02:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote: Thank you for your post.
PR is Public Relations. Like James does it or like Goblin fails at it.
You plan on discoing? Who where what?
I have no idea what Public Relations is or who Goblin is...
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Herzyr
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:11:00 -
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So does this mean that gankers are anti gankers at the same time? They gank targets before other gankers gank them? Or do they gank would be gankers before they gank a not ganker?
It's like stealing, finding something for someone before they lose it, was it that way or the other way around? |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
268
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:14:00 -
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Herzyr wrote:So does this mean that gankers are anti gankers at the same time? They gank targets before other gankers gank them? Or do they gank would be gankers before they gank a not ganker?
It's like stealing, finding something for someone before they lose it, was it that way or the other way around? I myself want to know more. |

Dreadchain
Lavateinn
64
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:19:00 -
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I have a few of these "anti-gankers" following me around as I go on with my ganking business. They tend to limit their activities to insults in local chat, as well as sitting outside stations in cheap frigates trying to tackle me before I warp away.
Most commonly they claim I am actually a sadistic transvestite psychopath who gets off on the misery of others. I'd post some of the chatlogs, but I fear they may have far too much foul language for the audience of this fine forum. www.minerbumping.com |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
268
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:22:00 -
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Dreadchain wrote:I have a few of these "anti-gankers" following me around as I go on with my ganking business. They tend to limit their activities to insults in local chat, as well as sitting outside stations in cheap frigates trying to tackle me before I warp away.
Most commonly they claim I am actually a sadistic transvestite psychopath who gets off on the misery of others. I'd post some of the chatlogs, but I fear they may have far too much foul language for the audience of this fine forum. Thank you for your contribution! If you could tell where this is happening, it'd be nice.
I know this type btw and mentioned it in my initial post.
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Dreadchain
Lavateinn
64
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:24:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Dreadchain wrote:I have a few of these "anti-gankers" following me around as I go on with my ganking business. They tend to limit their activities to insults in local chat, as well as sitting outside stations in cheap frigates trying to tackle me before I warp away.
Most commonly they claim I am actually a sadistic transvestite psychopath who gets off on the misery of others. I'd post some of the chatlogs, but I fear they may have far too much foul language for the audience of this fine forum. Thank you for your contribution! If you could tell where this is happening, it'd be nice. I know this type btw and mentioned it in my initial post.
I tend to hang around in Balle and the surrounding area, feel free to pop by. Probably won't be around today as I'm pulling a long goddamn day at work but you'll generally find me there. www.minerbumping.com |

voetius
BITB Support Services
212
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:28:00 -
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I once podded Gevlon (I think it was Botslayer Goblin but can't recall TBH) so does that make me an anti-ganker or a ganker? |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
269
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:36:00 -
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voetius wrote: I once podded Gevlon (I think it was Botslayer Goblin but can't recall TBH) so does that make me an anti-ganker or a ganker?
I think for many this makes you a good person. ^^ |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
269
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:37:00 -
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Thellero Orlenard wrote:Solecist Project wrote: Thank you for your post.
PR is Public Relations. Like James does it or like Goblin fails at it.
You plan on discoing? Who where what?
I have no idea what Public Relations is or who Goblin is... PR. Marketing.
Can't really tell you much about Gevlon. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3158
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:41:00 -
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Anti-gankers try to stop gankers (like the name suggests). The better ones use ECM to drop a gankers targets mid-gank so they get concorded for nothing, but some do run around shooting at gankers where they can. There are chat channels and they are full of spies, but for the most part the channels are there to exchange info, like gankers alts for warpins and whatnot and some areas where gankers are operating, etc. There's not much spies can do in those channels as all info is taken with a pinch of salt, it just gives a central location to pool info. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Sibyyl
378
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:43:00 -
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The Red Queen is alive and well in EVE. If you have more cautious penguins who can spot a brown polar bear from a distance, eventually the system will present a white polar bear. I think it's one of the most beautiful things in the game (besides the complexity).
/Fÿ¡
Now that you are *campers* you will have more *parties* and no more *sad* *lonely* *bubbles*. |
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
269
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:43:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Anti-gankers try to stop gankers (like the name suggests). The better ones use ECM to drop a gankers targets mid-gank so they get concorded for nothing, but some do run around shooting at gankers where they can. There are chat channels and they are full of spies, but for the most part the channels are there to exchange info, like gankers alts for warpins and whatnot and some areas where gankers are operating, etc. There's not much spies can do in those channels as all info is taken with a pinch of salt, it just gives a central location to pool info. Thanks for this.
Nothing new, but that's okay.
Are there any actual serious ones too or only those who restrict themselves to miner protection?
I consider this to be pointless rbh, but can't exclude them from information gathering. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
269
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:45:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:The Red Queen is alive and well in EVE. If you have more cautious penguins who can spot a brown polar bear from a distance, eventually the system will present a white polar bear. I think it's one of the most beautiful things in the game (besides the complexity). /Fÿ¡ Even for my taste that's more meta than I can handle. lol |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3159
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:55:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Anti-gankers try to stop gankers (like the name suggests). The better ones use ECM to drop a gankers targets mid-gank so they get concorded for nothing, but some do run around shooting at gankers where they can. There are chat channels and they are full of spies, but for the most part the channels are there to exchange info, like gankers alts for warpins and whatnot and some areas where gankers are operating, etc. There's not much spies can do in those channels as all info is taken with a pinch of salt, it just gives a central location to pool info. Thanks for this. Nothing new, but that's okay. Are there any actual serious ones too or only those who restrict themselves to miner protection? I consider this to be pointless rbh, but can't exclude them from information gathering. Yes, there are serious ones, just as there are serious people doing pretty much anything in game. That's the nature of the sandbox. If something can be done, there will be people that focus entirely on doing that something. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Organic Lager
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
34
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:02:00 -
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How does one protect the world from gankers? Does one gank the gankers? Does this make you a ganker? Do you then have to gank yourself? My head hurts. |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1861
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:04:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Anti-gankers try to stop gankers (like the name suggests). The better ones use ECM to drop a gankers targets mid-gank so they get concorded for nothing, but some do run around shooting at gankers where they can. There are chat channels and they are full of spies, but for the most part the channels are there to exchange info, like gankers alts for warpins and whatnot and some areas where gankers are operating, etc. There's not much spies can do in those channels as all info is taken with a pinch of salt, it just gives a central location to pool info. Thanks for this. Nothing new, but that's okay. Are there any actual serious ones too or only those who restrict themselves to miner protection? I consider this to be pointless rbh, but can't exclude them from information gathering.
I never see him any more, but a guy called The Saint Tsero used to cause us some trouble in his Falcon. He was amazingly good at figuring out which miner we were going to gank even when using cloaky warpins. There were a couple of others, but since he was always around when they were, I assume they were his alts, but could be wrong. But if The Saint was around, ganking miners was going to be a lot tougher.
I think his secret was that he was just as dedicated as we are. He wasn't thinking about the isk/hr he was losing by sitting in his Falcon for hours. He didn't start watching youtube videos just because there wasn't any action for 10min. And above all, I think he did it because it was fun, not because he was really interested in helping miners. "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion
***** Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM ***** |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
269
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:12:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:I never see him any more, but a guy called The Saint Tsero used to cause us some trouble in his Falcon. He was amazingly good at figuring out which miner we were going to gank even when using cloaky warpins. There were a couple of others, but since he was always around when they were, I assume they were his alts, but could be wrong. But if The Saint was around, ganking miners was going to be a lot tougher. I think his secret was that he was just as dedicated as we are. He wasn't thinking about the isk/hr he was losing by sitting in his Falcon for hours. He didn't start watching youtube videos just because there wasn't any action for 10min. And above all, I think he did it because it was fun, not because he was really interested in helping miners. Interesting.
Never heard of him.
Dedication is important. I think that's the whole point of the game, if you want to play it for what it has to offer.
What strikes me a bit is that it seems that people think that the only ganking that's happening is against miners. That's a bit odd.
I consider that to be the most irrelevant of them all. |

Artemis Lyserius
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:44:00 -
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I've been for some time now hunting gate campers with some friends.
They're all quite stupid and their spots easily predictable, but their rage is twice the regular carebear rage.
So I'm guessing anti-gankers are just looking for the same: Gankers tears, which are probably twice as tasty as carebears tears.
Sincerely, it amazes me how players took so long in this game to start an initiative against such easy prey |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4670
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:46:00 -
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There's a guy in this character's corp who has been creating all manner of epic lulz by popping people with killrights on them, getting Tornado kills in scanning ships and the like.
Funnier than hell if you ask me. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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PrettyMuch Always Right
University of Caille Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:50:00 -
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Pretty sure every ganker, griefer, AWOXer and pirate in EVE right now is ashamed to be remotely associated with the OP.
Rule of thumb: If you can't present your ideas intelligibly, keep your thoughts to yourself.  |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
271
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:54:00 -
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Artemis Lyserius wrote:I've been for some time now hunting gate campers with some friends.
They're all quite stupid and their spots easily predictable, but their rage is twice the regular carebear rage.
So I'm guessing anti-gankers are just looking for the same: Gankers tears, which are probably twice as tasty as carebears tears.
Sincerely, it amazes me how players took so long in this game to start an initiative against such easy prey In ... highsec?
If so, how do you operate?
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:There's a guy in this character's corp who has been creating all manner of epic lulz by popping people with killrights on them, getting Tornado kills in scanning ships and the like.
Funnier than hell if you ask me. Can you tell me more about it??
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