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Agondray
Dark Forge Enterprise Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2014.04.14 22:24:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Agondray wrote:i tried to gank the gankers, when they realize someone with guns is after them they dock.....and stay docked, because apparently its not fair Then I guess you got lucky with finding noobs who don't really know what to do. Still ... +1 for the effort.
thanks, ive managed to kill 1 a couple months ago, since than he docks up when i hit system even in my sigil "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mine" -Dr. Smith |

Winchester Steele
952
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Posted - 2014.04.14 22:25:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:What a serious waste of bandwidth this is. Though, it's kind of interesting to read something by a narcissist with an insecurity complex. Well, up to the fourth or fifth sentence anyway.
We're going to have to hike this bad boy up to four Yawns; yawn yawn yawn yawn. It doesn't rate a scratch. I'm even wondering why I allowed it to delay my second cup of coffee.
Funny. Kind of sounds like you are describing yourself.
As far as Sol goes, seems like he has encouraged a pretty interesting and cool discussion with lots of input from different perspectives.
Please stop shitting up his thread. TIA. ... |

Winchester Steele
952
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Posted - 2014.04.14 22:27:00 -
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Agondray wrote:i tried to gank the gankers, when they realize someone with guns is after them they dock.....and stay docked, because apparently its not fair
Or.. Or.. They stay docked because they are -10 and facpo will murder them if they stay undocked.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but NOONE is "scared" of you.  ... |

Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER CODE.
177
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Posted - 2014.04.14 22:46:00 -
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From what I have seen so far, the most distinct skills of a typical Anti-ganker are as follows:
- Can sit for hours on undock and try to catch insta-undocking ships or insta-docking pods - Can make up stuff about your real life on the fly - Is a skilled psycho analyst and can asses immediately that your are a sociopath because you shot spaceships in a game about shooting spaceships. - Is willing to share his sexual fantasies about the ganker, usually involving a lot of male reproduction organs and/or fecal matter of all sorts in local chat
It is however not required to do anything of impact in the game itself, like stopping ganks and stuff like that.
(Just to be fair, there is a very very small minority in the anti ganker "community" who isn't like that and at least tries) |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3180
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Posted - 2014.04.14 23:08:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Gogela wrote:Is there a group with actually larger following? If by "larger following" you mean guys with 100 accounts than "yes". Pod Repo might count too...
Any religious RP types? Yah. They play WAY too much internet spaceships.
Only self righteous losers or actually people who can be taken seriously? How seriously can you take anyone playing video games? All of the above.
Are there actual PR efforts and if so, why don't I know of it? No. That's a far better response. Thank you. You're saying that there are isboxing antigankers around? What's Pod Repo? Yes there definitely are isboxers... anytime you see a swarm of tornadoes or catalysts with the same name appended with a number (1-100) you can bet some isboxer is ganking freighters.
Pod Repo ...you'll get to know them if you fly around empire w/ a low sec status, a cheap bounty, suspect flag, or a killright someone sold. Pod Repo pretty much finds any excuse they can to kill you w/o going full berserker. There are some others like them too...
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
279
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Posted - 2014.04.14 23:24:00 -
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Winchester Steele wrote:Agondray wrote:i tried to gank the gankers, when they realize someone with guns is after them they dock.....and stay docked, because apparently its not fair Or.. Or.. They stay docked because they are -10 and facpo will murder them if they stay undocked. Sorry to burst your bubble, but NOONE is "scared" of you.  Well most do that anyway until their alts find targets, but otoh instaundocks make undocking almost too safe.
And myself never really had issues with avoiding the faction police and I hate using alts to make my game easier.
Alyth Nerun wrote:From what I have seen so far, the most distinct skills of a typical Anti-ganker are as follows:
- Can sit for hours on undock and try to catch insta-undocking ships or insta-docking pods - Can make up stuff about your real life on the fly - Is a skilled psycho analyst and can asses immediately that your are a sociopath because you shot spaceships in a game about shooting spaceships. - Is willing to share his sexual fantasies about the ganker, usually involving a lot of male reproduction organs and/or fecal matter of all sorts in local chat
It is however not required to do anything of impact in the game itself, like stopping ganks and stuff like that.
(Just to be fair, there is a very very small minority in the anti ganker "community" who isn't like that and at least tries)
There's a certain truth to this, but I'm unsure of the size of this group. There seems to be a real scene regarding this and although there's a noticeable lack of experience in ganking, most seem to do quite well.
Yes, next to this thread I already started personal research. :D |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
279
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Posted - 2014.04.14 23:25:00 -
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Quote:Yes there definitely are isboxers... anytime you see a swarm of tornadoes or catalysts with the same name appended with a number (1-100) you can bet some isboxer is ganking freighters. Pod Repo ...you'll get to know them if you fly around empire w/ a low sec status, a cheap bounty, suspect flag, or a killright someone sold. Pod Repo pretty much finds any excuse they can to kill you w/o going full berserker. There are some others like them too... Interesting! |

Winchester Steele
959
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Posted - 2014.04.14 23:31:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:Agondray wrote:i tried to gank the gankers, when they realize someone with guns is after them they dock.....and stay docked, because apparently its not fair Or.. Or.. They stay docked because they are -10 and facpo will murder them if they stay undocked. Sorry to burst your bubble, but NOONE is "scared" of you.  Well most do that anyway until their alts find targets, but otoh instaundocks make undocking almost too safe. And myself never really had issues with avoiding the faction police and I hate using alts to make my game easier.
I still remember your experiments living as an outlaw in high-sec remaining undocked using bm's. Was gonna mention it.
Tried it for a while on my -10, found it frustrating trying to post on the forums in 10 second intervals. (Although most of my shitposts take less time than that anyhow ) ... |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
279
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Posted - 2014.04.14 23:36:00 -
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Winchester Steele wrote:I still remember your experiments living as an outlaw in high-sec remaining undocked using bm's. Was gonna mention it. Tried it for a while on my -10, found it frustrating trying to post on the forums in 10 second intervals. (Although most of my shitposts take less time than that anyhow  ) Woohoo I'm being remembered! xD
Well I can tell you that chatting was the one thing that got me killed the most! lol
If you want it a bit less challenging... use a slasher fitted with local hull overdrives, a mwd and overheat whenever the facpo spawns next to you.
Works up to 0.7 or 0.8 - I don't really remember - like a charme.
As soon as you're 50km away you're safe to zoom around! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! XD
And high speed frigate fights with artillery as -10 are awesome! :D |

MotherSammy
The Conference Elite CODE.
58
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Posted - 2014.04.14 23:50:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:MotherSammy wrote:Oh the anti-ganking channel. That's the place where every new order alt hangs out with a bunch of AFK miners. Yeah that's pretty much a no-brainer. :) Also ... Hi! Nice of you to post here! :D
What an odd line. Do you know me from somewhere?  |
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
584
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Posted - 2014.04.14 23:50:00 -
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I know someone that makes quite a living following a particular 'nado gang around. He doesn't kill the 'nados though just the ships that turn up after the gank, then he steals the loot. They even offered to pay him to stop harassing them. |

Winchester Steele
963
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Posted - 2014.04.14 23:59:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:I know someone that makes quite a living following a particular 'nado gang around. He doesn't kill the 'nados though just the ships that turn up after the gank, then he steals the loot. They even offered to pay him to stop harassing them.
Sounds like a griefer to me. Hopefully the 'nado pilots don't come unglued and report your friend for "cyber bullying"  ... |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
281
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:00:00 -
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MotherSammy wrote:Solecist Project wrote:MotherSammy wrote:Oh the anti-ganking channel. That's the place where every new order alt hangs out with a bunch of AFK miners. Yeah that's pretty much a no-brainer. :) Also ... Hi! Nice of you to post here! :D What an odd line. Do you know me from somewhere?  No, but I irritated you successfully with it! XD
Hasikan Miallok wrote:I know someone that makes quite a living following a particular 'nado gang around. He doesn't kill the 'nados though just the ships that turn up after the gank, then he steals the loot. They even offered to pay him to stop harassing them. That's ... awesome!
I mean ... seriously. This guy steals loot from gankers and they even offer to PAY him to stop doing it!
HILARIOUS! :D |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
281
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:01:00 -
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Winchester Steele wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:I know someone that makes quite a living following a particular 'nado gang around. He doesn't kill the 'nados though just the ships that turn up after the gank, then he steals the loot. They even offered to pay him to stop harassing them. Sounds like a griefer to me. Hopefully the 'nado pilots don't come unglued and report your friend for "cyber bullying"  He's seriously ****** if they report him to ****** peg.
Damn, I always forget how to spell his name properly. |

Winchester Steele
963
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:02:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:I still remember your experiments living as an outlaw in high-sec remaining undocked using bm's. Was gonna mention it. Tried it for a while on my -10, found it frustrating trying to post on the forums in 10 second intervals. (Although most of my shitposts take less time than that anyhow  ) Woohoo I'm being remembered! xD Well I can tell you that chatting was the one thing that got me killed the most! lol If you want it a bit less challenging... use a slasher fitted with local hull overdrives, a mwd and overheat whenever the facpo spawns next to you. Works up to 0.7 or 0.8 - I don't really remember - like a charme. As soon as you're 50km away you're safe to zoom around! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! XD And high speed frigate fights with artillery as -10 are awesome! :D
I remember everyone who creates content in Eve. Folks like you keep this game fun and interesting for boring terrible casuals like me. ... |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
586
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:04:00 -
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Winchester Steele wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:I know someone that makes quite a living following a particular 'nado gang around. He doesn't kill the 'nados though just the ships that turn up after the gank, then he steals the loot. They even offered to pay him to stop harassing them. Sounds like a griefer to me. Hopefully the 'nado pilots don't come unglued and report your friend for "cyber bullying" 
if the ships collecting the loot go suspect how is that griefing ?
The amusing thing is the 'nado gang are apparently very indignant about anyone killing their ships and stealing their loot, apparently that is unfair and not how EVE is supposed to work. |

MotherSammy
The Conference Elite CODE.
59
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:08:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:MotherSammy wrote:What an odd line. Do you know me from somewhere?  No, but I irritated you successfully with it! XD
Irritated? If that's trolling, you need more practice  |

Winchester Steele
967
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:43:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:I know someone that makes quite a living following a particular 'nado gang around. He doesn't kill the 'nados though just the ships that turn up after the gank, then he steals the loot. They even offered to pay him to stop harassing them. Sounds like a griefer to me. Hopefully the 'nado pilots don't come unglued and report your friend for "cyber bullying"  if the ships collecting the loot go suspect how is that griefing ? The amusing thing is the 'nado gang are apparently very indignant about anyone killing their ships and stealing their loot, apparently that is unfair and not how EVE is supposed to work.
Do you even sarcasm bro? ... |

Jebediah Phoenix
The Conference Elite CODE.
54
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:04:00 -
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+1 Praise for The Saint Tsero. Much better than the current crop of anti-gankers, a true gentleman. Flynt and Jennifer by comparison are not fun, they never chat with us like he would. They just block us, now where's the fun in that? |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
281
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:28:00 -
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Apparently they banned me from minerbumping channel.
Person even lacks balls to admit it.
My heart is broken.
I will go cry myself to sleep now. :(
The password is 315, btw.
Send my best wishes!
Good night ! :D
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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
999
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Posted - 2014.04.15 03:06:00 -
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You don't need a resculpt, just try to draw attention away from your face. 
Once I was flying a fast-locking frigate, and just happened to land on a gate as a gank was happening. I managed to point up one of the gankers' pods and kill it, and minutes later the guy they ganked put a bounty ON ME! Ungrateful I tell you, no appreciation for random acts of anti-gankness. |

John XIII
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
180
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Posted - 2014.04.15 03:10:00 -
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Several months ago I had a chat with James 315 to report about the increasing number of groupie white knights that were trying to disrupt our operations. I explained some of the tactics they used and how they were becoming more and more effective. My take away from the chat was that he was very pleased with the build up of white knights.
James 315's vision of highsec is coming along nicely. People versus people, working as intended.
gf rebel scum 
ps Sarah Flynt and Jennifer en Marland <3 pps RIP The Saint Tsero
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Alternative Splicing
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.04.15 05:56:00 -
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John XIII wrote: James 315's vision of highsec is coming along nicely. People versus people, working as intended.
If only the rest of the universe had a savior as enlightened as his holiness, James 315. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
1092
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Posted - 2014.04.15 08:38:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:There's a chatroom for these people, but I don't know the name. It would be pointless anyway as I can safely assume that it's full of spies.
The channel is called anti-ganking. Oops, is it too late to plead the fifth on being a spy? 
Quote:Smart move, btw, having a pointless public chatroom for people to build trust and then violate it when it's necessary.
Actually, they're not about building trust. Mostly they share terrible advice on everything from fitting a mining ship to proper recruiting practice. Anyone giving good advice tends to get the Spanish inquisition from people like Sarah Flynt and Jennifer en Marland, who seem to dislike anyone disagreeing with their view of things.
They also seem to have an obsession with using cloaked ships to surprise gankers, and wanting to camp multiple gates and stations at the same time in the hopes of killing someone who's -5 or below. Their purpose for those camps is to safeguard mining ops - they give you a blank look when you suggest that it would be easier (and require fewer people) to simply camp your own mining op.
Quote:Some AntiGankers are probably self righteous delusionalists. (is that even a word? I like it) It means that they believe to be the moral highground and everyone who isn't as good as them ... ... or doesn't agree with them ... ... is somehow bad/etc.
These are bad. Actually worse than most gankers.
This is completely true. Even the mere suggestion of pre-emptively ganking an obvious gank fleet will get you into big trouble with these people if the gankers aren't -5 or below.
Quote:What's the goal? What are they trying to protect? Miners only or other ships too? System wide action? Whole constellations? Are there "protected" regions? Is there a group with actually larger following? Any religious RP types? Only self righteous losers or actually people who can be taken seriously? Are there actual PR efforts and if so, why don't I know of it?
To answer your questions in order:
The goal is to sit in a channel being self righteous and throwing a party every time someone whores on a Concord killmail. Apparently, putting ECM on an already perma-jammed, perma-neuted, perma-scrambled ship is a herculean feat worthy of praise from the gods themselves.
Primarily it's about "protecting" miners. Most of the killmails they gleefully post in their special little channel didn't save the miner, which makes the celebrations a bit of an odd thing. Maybe they're just sadistic? If they happen across anyone else being ganked they'll happily get involved there, too, with the same end result.
Action? Protected constellations / regions? LMFAO! There's always one or two that advocate actually doing something, but at least some of those are glorious agents of the New Order. Dang, one of the true anti-gankers even set them up a mumble server, but the "leaders" of this group consider hanging out on voice comms to be metagaming to an unacceptable level.
They aren't a group, more a number of individuals congretating in a channel and an alliance. To date, the largest cohesive "group" I've seen has amounted to Anslo and an alt.
They're definitely not into religious RP, though they'd have to praise the saviour as he's the one true highsec deity. Mostly, they seem to be EU nanny state types - CCP should ban ganking, CCP should make sure they don't have to see any mean words in local, CCP should make x, y and z changes to game mechanics to prevent unwanted interaction.
There's some people in there that can be taken seriously - you'll find most of them in the minerbumping channel, too. :)
PR is mostly word of mouth.
Hope that helps with your research. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
284
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Posted - 2014.04.15 09:22:00 -
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I have no coffee pads at home. I am completely unwilling to heat up water right now and now I'm drinking ice coffee. Cold milk and powder. No coffee pads. I know I haven't drank one of these in half a year, but when it matters THEY REALLY SHOULD BE AROUND!
The horror ...............................
Anyway, good morning. Don't let this affect how you read my post.
I'm not yet pissed off.
admiral root wrote:Solecist Project wrote:There's a chatroom for these people, but I don't know the name. It would be pointless anyway as I can safely assume that it's full of spies. The channel is called anti-ganking. Oops, is it too late to plead the fifth on being a spy?  Quote:Smart move, btw, having a pointless public chatroom for people to build trust and then violate it when it's necessary. Actually, they're not about building trust. Mostly they share terrible advice on everything from fitting a mining ship to proper recruiting practice. Anyone giving good advice tends to get the Spanish inquisition from people like Sarah Flynt and Jennifer en Marland, who seem to dislike anyone disagreeing with their view of things. They also seem to have an obsession with using cloaked ships to surprise gankers, and wanting to camp multiple gates and stations at the same time in the hopes of killing someone who's -5 or below. Their purpose for those camps is to safeguard mining ops - they give you a blank look when you suggest that it would be easier (and require fewer people) to simply camp your own mining op. Quote:Some AntiGankers are probably self righteous delusionalists. (is that even a word? I like it) It means that they believe to be the moral highground and everyone who isn't as good as them ... ... or doesn't agree with them ... ... is somehow bad/etc.
These are bad. Actually worse than most gankers. This is completely true. Even the mere suggestion of pre-emptively ganking an obvious gank fleet will get you into big trouble with these people if the gankers aren't -5 or below. Quote:What's the goal? What are they trying to protect? Miners only or other ships too? System wide action? Whole constellations? Are there "protected" regions? Is there a group with actually larger following? Any religious RP types? Only self righteous losers or actually people who can be taken seriously? Are there actual PR efforts and if so, why don't I know of it? To answer your questions in order: The goal is to sit in a channel being self righteous and throwing a party every time someone whores on a Concord killmail. Apparently, putting ECM on an already perma-jammed, perma-neuted, perma-scrambled ship is a herculean feat worthy of praise from the gods themselves. Primarily it's about "protecting" miners. Most of the killmails they gleefully post in their special little channel didn't save the miner, which makes the celebrations a bit of an odd thing. Maybe they're just sadistic? If they happen across anyone else being ganked they'll happily get involved there, too, with the same end result. Action? Protected constellations / regions? LMFAO! There's always one or two that advocate actually doing something, but at least some of those are glorious agents of the New Order. Dang, one of the true anti-gankers even set them up a mumble server, but the "leaders" of this group consider hanging out on voice comms to be metagaming to an unacceptable level. They aren't a group, more a number of individuals congretating in a channel and an alliance. To date, the largest cohesive "group" I've seen has amounted to Anslo and an alt. They're definitely not into religious RP, though they'd have to praise the saviour as he's the one true highsec deity. Mostly, they seem to be EU nanny state types - CCP should ban ganking, CCP should make sure they don't have to see any mean words in local, CCP should make x, y and z changes to game mechanics to prevent unwanted interaction. There's some people in there that can be taken seriously - you'll find most of them in the minerbumping channel, too. :) PR is mostly word of mouth. Hope that helps with your research. Hello and thank you for your post.
I haven't seen any of these two yesterday and people were actually really happy about my presence. I had quite a few chats and I initiated a quiz and I'm still waiting for somebody to come up with the right answer. Of course it's about ganking. Doesn't matter.
Your view of them is highly +¡naccurate, yet partly true. Some people are actually dedicated. Some simply try. Some just want to protect their fellow corpmembers.
If there are any selfrighteous people, I haven't really met them yesterday.
Regarding possibly banning me from their chatroom I can only say that it would be the same as my banning from the minerbumping channel yesterday by some loser who only seems to be equipped with a "125mm" autocannon with really fast RoF.
Their loss. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
1093
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Posted - 2014.04.15 09:26:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Regarding possibly banning me from their chatroom I can only say that it would be the same as my banning from the minerbumping channel yesterday by some loser who only seems to be equipped with a "125mm" autocannon with really fast RoF.
Ugh, why on earth were you banned? That really sucks because anyone who's heard of you knows you're a content creator in the emergent department. 
Love the description of the guy who banned you, though. That's one to remember! No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
284
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Posted - 2014.04.15 09:49:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Regarding possibly banning me from their chatroom I can only say that it would be the same as my banning from the minerbumping channel yesterday by some loser who only seems to be equipped with a "125mm" autocannon with really fast RoF. Ugh, why on earth were you banned? That really sucks because anyone who's heard of you knows you're a content creator in the emergent department.  Love the description of the guy who banned you, though. That's one to remember! I am suspecting that he is a loyal anon, but I have no proof whatsoever who it was.
I'd suggest unbanning me. :D |

Salvos Rhoska
1054
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Posted - 2014.04.15 09:58:00 -
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What is this crap.
Didnt read, dont care.
Suspicious Erotica1 similarity does not go unnoticed however, and is doubly pathetic. ------------ |

Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1001
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Posted - 2014.04.15 11:06:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:What is this crap.
Didnt read, dont care.
Suspicious Erotica1 similarity does not go unnoticed however, and is doubly pathetic. Wait, what are you suggesting?
Oh dear...
Yeah, totally similar.
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
284
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Posted - 2014.04.15 11:12:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:What is this crap.
Didnt read, dont care.
Suspicious Erotica1 similarity does not go unnoticed however, and is doubly pathetic. Wait, what are you suggesting? Oh dear... Yeah, totally similar. Please don't feed the troll with things that make sense, he'll only crap out nonsense anyway. |
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