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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
271
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:55:00 -
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PrettyMuch Always Right wrote:Pretty sure every ganker, griefer, AWOXer and pirate in EVE right now is ashamed to be remotely associated with the OP. Rule of thumb: If you can't present your ideas intelligibly, keep your thoughts to yourself.  Then why in hell do you even post, if you can't stick to your own rule of thumb? |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4673
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:57:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:There's a guy in this character's corp who has been creating all manner of epic lulz by popping people with killrights on them, getting Tornado kills in scanning ships and the like.
Funnier than hell if you ask me. Can you tell me more about it??
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_ext_id=92680254
This guy has a knack for sniffing out hilarious kills. And man, you should hear his accent. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Benny Ohu
Beneath the Ashes Margin of Silence
2893
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:58:00 -
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PrettyMuch Always Right wrote:Pretty sure every ganker, griefer, AWOXer and pirate in EVE right now is ashamed to be remotely associated with the OP. Rule of thumb: If you can't present your ideas intelligibly, keep your thoughts to yourself.  does the npc alt have something it wants to say |

Anslo
Scope Works
4855
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:05:00 -
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I forget his name, but this guy in Caldari space sits on highsec gates in a battle skiff and tackles any red blinkies he finds. Ive watched him point 2 catalysts at a time, tank them, and kill them.
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3178
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:05:00 -
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Well... you have to kind of expect this, what with so many people ganking anymore. I've encountered a lot of "anti-gankers"... a lot of times it's people who are gankers themselves trying to discourage competition. When the gankers on my gate get too thick, I'll do the same. Float 200km off the gate in a cloaked hauler so I can ninja their kill... switch my Tornado to "kill yellow flashy" mode to pop their loot grabber. No matter what you do in eve, there's going to be someone out there who just wants to f*** up your game. There's always that push and pull, in everything. It's fine. For every tactic there's a counter tactic, and for every counter tactic there's yet another counter tactic. No sense crying about it. Just adapt and try to destroy your enemies.
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
271
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:07:00 -
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Gogela wrote:Well... you have to kind of expect this, what with so many people ganking anymore. I've encountered a lot of "anti-gankers"... a lot of times it's people who are gankers themselves trying to discourage competition. When the gankers on my gate get too thick, I'll do the same. Float 200km off the gate in a cloaked hauler so I can ninja their kill... switch my Tornado to "kill yellow flashy" mode to pop their loot grabber. No matter what you do in eve, there's going to be someone out there who just wants to f*** up your game. There's always that push and pull, in everything. It's fine. For every tactic there's a counter tactic, and for every counter tactic there's yet another counter tactic. No sense crying about it. Just adapt and try to destroy your enemies. Your post is a bit weird and sounds more like a personal issue than actually adressing my questions. :)
Anyhow, thanks for your contribution, Gogela. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
271
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:09:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:There's a guy in this character's corp who has been creating all manner of epic lulz by popping people with killrights on them, getting Tornado kills in scanning ships and the like.
Funnier than hell if you ask me. Can you tell me more about it?? http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_ext_id=92680254This guy has a knack for sniffing out hilarious kills. And man, you should hear his accent. I like this guy! :D
Anslo wrote:I forget his name, but this guy in Caldari space sits on highsec gates in a battle skiff and tackles any red blinkies he finds. Ive watched him point 2 catalysts at a time, tank them, and kill them. Battle skiff.
Interesting! Huge tank, if I recall correctly? Really nice!
Too bad you forgot his name. :D |

Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
654
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:12:00 -
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I was traveling on ap in my cheetah from jita to hek and got pwned on gate for probe launcher. Sit in crapy staber (before it got drones) get back there and pwned trashers left and right for day or so.
gankers wore -10 so limited time to undock and warp to gank target and me being there with sensor boosted staber rly pissed em off but they started to cry like babies when I start hitting their loot scoop boat.
ah the tears, and ppl think carebears emo rage you should seen local chat that day.
also to log in pvp alt to pwn isbox ganker sure why not but I dont believe theres a service type group lurking around. http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
272
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:20:00 -
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Mina Sebiestar wrote:I was traveling on ap in my cheetah from jita to hek and got pwned on gate for probe launcher. Sit in crapy staber (before it got drones) get back there and pwned trashers left and right for day or so.
gankers wore -10 so limited time to undock and warp to gank target and me being there with sensor boosted staber rly pissed em off but they started to cry like babies when I start hitting their loot scoop boat.
ah the tears, and ppl think carebears emo rage you should seen local chat that day.
also to log in pvp alt to pwn isbox ganker sure why not but I dont believe theres a service type group lurking around. Hahahaha I can imagine.
Yeah gankers tears are sometimes far worse than carebear tears.
Especially if it's noobs who believe they are somehow better, but then manage to get themselves killed. No offense to you intended.
Sometimes carebears and gankers are far more alike than one would imagine.
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Anslo
Scope Works
4856
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:20:00 -
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I don't think they had a formal name, but I remember this group who roamed jita in battle indys and ganked gankers while repping gank targets up and escorting them to safety.
Vigilante bears, best bears.
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Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
1100
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:33:00 -
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The Anti-ganker channel is called Anti-ganking. It's an open channel, so feel free to join but expect to be perma-banned the first time you open your mouth to say anything other than "grrr gankers". Your assessment of the channel was right on - at any given moment there are about 20 of the self righteous "gankers are bad people in real life" crowd, and the other hundred or so people are ganker alts, there to spy and to have a chuckle at the silly bears. www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
Psychotic Monk for CSM9 |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
273
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:37:00 -
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Anslo wrote:I don't think they had a formal name, but I remember this group who roamed jita in battle indys and ganked gankers while repping gank targets up and escorting them to safety.
Vigilante bears, best bears. I'm impressed ......... It's kind of sad that these stories don't get known more publicly.
Haedonism Bot wrote:The Anti-ganker channel is called Anti-ganking. It's an open channel, so feel free to join but expect to be perma-banned the first time you open your mouth to say anything other than "grrr gankers". Your assessment of the channel was right on - at any given moment there are about 20 of the self righteous "gankers are bad people in real life" crowd, and the other hundred or so people are ganker alts, there to spy and to have a chuckle at the silly bears. Well I found one of these channels and it's locked. Invitation only.
"Yours", though, is open.
Makes me wonder.
Thanks! |

Serene Repose
1261
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:41:00 -
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What a serious waste of bandwidth this is. Though, it's kind of interesting to read something by a narcissist with an insecurity complex. Well, up to the fourth or fifth sentence anyway.
We're going to have to hike this bad boy up to four Yawns; yawn yawn yawn yawn. It doesn't rate a scratch. I'm even wondering why I allowed it to delay my second cup of coffee. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |

Anslo
Scope Works
4858
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:43:00 -
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^That's why people don't bother posting anti-gank stories, Sol.
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
273
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:55:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:What a serious waste of bandwidth this is. Though, it's kind of interesting to read something by a narcissist with an insecurity complex. Well, up to the fourth or fifth sentence anyway.
We're going to have to hike this bad boy up to four Yawns; yawn yawn yawn yawn. It doesn't rate a scratch. I'm even wondering why I allowed it to delay my second cup of coffee. You should look up what psychological projection is.
Anslo wrote:^That's why people don't bother posting anti-gank stories, Sol. *nods*
It's sad, but people shouldn't let themselves get discouraged by haters. |

bareface
Omni Management System
1
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:13:00 -
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I have done a bit of anti ganking. It's actually quite fun. I don't go looking for gankers, but when the opportunity arises...
I usually bait gankers sitting on a gate catching pimped mission runners.
If they have a scanning alt outside of a station, I load up a golem with as many faction and deadspace modules as possible. After I've been scanned, I'll pretend to run a mission or 2 in system (just warp someplace and sit a while). Usually when I return to the station, the scanning alt is gone ( heading to a gate to scoop up the loot of my soon dead golem). I then refit in station with an all tank setup and lots of tractors/salvagers in the highs. I then use an agent locater to find out which adjacent system gate they are camping. It's then as easy as flying through the gate and scooping up the wrecks of 3-5 tornados. An easy 50 mil for 10 minutes work.
Just like ganking, anti ganking doesn't have to be about the tears. It can be quite profitable. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
273
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:25:00 -
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bareface wrote:I have done a bit of anti ganking. It's actually quite fun. I don't go looking for gankers, but when the opportunity arises...
I usually bait gankers sitting on a gate catching pimped mission runners.
If they have a scanning alt outside of a station, I load up a golem with as many faction and deadspace modules as possible. After I've been scanned, I'll pretend to run a mission or 2 in system (just warp someplace and sit a while). Usually when I return to the station, the scanning alt is gone ( heading to a gate to scoop up the loot of my soon dead golem). I then refit in station with an all tank setup and lots of tractors/salvagers in the highs. I then use an agent locater to find out which adjacent system gate they are camping. It's then as easy as flying through the gate and scooping up the wrecks of 3-5 tornados. An easy 50 mil for 10 minutes work.
Just like ganking, anti ganking doesn't have to be about the tears. It can be quite profitable. Awesome! :D
You are doing it right! :D
May I ask where this happens/happened? |

bareface
Omni Management System
3
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:50:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:
Awesome! :D
You are doing it right! :D
May I ask where this happens/happened?
This can be done at just about any fairly busy mission hub. Just scan killboards for high sec mission ganks to find out where they are active.
Another way that I've recently baited a few suiciders is with blockade runners. Some people shoot any blockade runner that they can target moving through high sec. I guess the reason being that because they can't be cargo scanned, they might contain some really valuable goods.
A lot bloackade runners get lazy in high sec and don't warp cloaked. Most people fit their blockade runners with MWD's and nanofibers or cargo expanders. No serious tank. Most suicide gankers don't even bother scanning these ships fittings. A solo ganker can usually take them out no problem. When I see someone doing this, I slap a 40k ehp tank on my blockade runner and head on through. I scoop up the gankers loot and go on my way. Sometimes I'll run through with an alt or two later that day for a few more laughs.
Although it can be fun, this method of baiting gankers isn't usually worth your time. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3179
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:11:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Gogela wrote:Well... you have to kind of expect this, what with so many people ganking anymore. I've encountered a lot of "anti-gankers"... a lot of times it's people who are gankers themselves trying to discourage competition. When the gankers on my gate get too thick, I'll do the same. Float 200km off the gate in a cloaked hauler so I can ninja their kill... switch my Tornado to "kill yellow flashy" mode to pop their loot grabber. No matter what you do in eve, there's going to be someone out there who just wants to f*** up your game. There's always that push and pull, in everything. It's fine. For every tactic there's a counter tactic, and for every counter tactic there's yet another counter tactic. No sense crying about it. Just adapt and try to destroy your enemies. Your post is a bit weird and sounds more like a personal issue than actually adressing my questions. :) Anyhow, thanks for your contribution, Gogela. I assumed the answers would be clear. Will try again.
What's the goal? There isn't necessarily any one goal: Grieving gankers. Discouraging competition. Looting for profit. All good goals.
What are they trying to protect? Miners only or other ships too? Their own interests usually, sometimes the anti-gankers want to be white nights, sometimes nothing at all.
System wide action? Whole constellations? Are there "protected" regions? In the case of those wanting to thin out ganking competition I can say yes. Check out Jita/Perimeter gate down past Nairja for an example of an entire route "claimed" by a certain ganker with a zillion accounts.
Is there a group with actually larger following? If by "larger following" you mean guys with 100 accounts than "yes". Pod Repo might count too...
Any religious RP types? Yah. They play WAY too much internet spaceships.
Only self righteous losers or actually people who can be taken seriously? How seriously can you take anyone playing video games? All of the above.
Are there actual PR efforts and if so, why don't I know of it? No.
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
273
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:30:00 -
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Gogela wrote:Is there a group with actually larger following? If by "larger following" you mean guys with 100 accounts than "yes". Pod Repo might count too...
Any religious RP types? Yah. They play WAY too much internet spaceships.
Only self righteous losers or actually people who can be taken seriously? How seriously can you take anyone playing video games? All of the above.
Are there actual PR efforts and if so, why don't I know of it? No. That's a far better response. Thank you.
You're saying that there are isboxing antigankers around?
What's Pod Repo? |
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MotherSammy
The Conference Elite CODE.
58
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:35:00 -
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Oh the anti-ganking channel. That's the place where every new order alt hangs out with a bunch of AFK miners. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
274
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:37:00 -
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MotherSammy wrote:Oh the anti-ganking channel. That's the place where every new order alt hangs out with a bunch of AFK miners. Yeah that's pretty much a no-brainer. :)
Also ... Hi! Nice of you to post here! :D |

Obvious Cyno
The Scope Gallente Federation
100
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Posted - 2014.04.14 21:29:00 -
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Your character looks like skrillex with HIV. |

Agondray
Dark Forge Enterprise Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
96
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Posted - 2014.04.14 21:48:00 -
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i tried to gank the gankers, when they realize someone with guns is after them they dock.....and stay docked, because apparently its not fair "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mine" -Dr. Smith |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
275
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Posted - 2014.04.14 22:07:00 -
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Agondray wrote:i tried to gank the gankers, when they realize someone with guns is after them they dock.....and stay docked, because apparently its not fair Then I guess you got lucky with finding noobs who don't really know what to do.
Still ... +1 for the effort. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4690
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Posted - 2014.04.14 22:08:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:
It's sad, but people shouldn't let themselves get discouraged by haters.
Especially not the gankers. After all, besides Goons, who gets more hate in this game than gankers? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
275
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Posted - 2014.04.14 22:12:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Solecist Project wrote:
It's sad, but people shouldn't let themselves get discouraged by haters.
Especially not the gankers. After all, besides Goons, who gets more hate in this game than gankers? That's true.
Gankers are the single most hated beings ... unless we can turn that somehow around.
Imagine we could make gankers hate anti-gankers so much, they start whinethreads on the forums about how unfair things are etc etc.
... wouldn't that be hilarious? :D |

Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
688
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Posted - 2014.04.14 22:12:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:There's the New Order. What's the opposite?
The Old Chaos. |

Winchester Steele
952
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Posted - 2014.04.14 22:17:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Anti-gankers try to stop gankers (like the name suggests). The better ones use ECM to drop a gankers targets mid-gank so they get concorded for nothing, but some do run around shooting at gankers where they can. There are chat channels and they are full of spies, but for the most part the channels are there to exchange info, like gankers alts for warpins and whatnot and some areas where gankers are operating, etc. There's not much spies can do in those channels as all info is taken with a pinch of salt, it just gives a central location to pool info. Thanks for this. Nothing new, but that's okay. Are there any actual serious ones too or only those who restrict themselves to miner protection? I consider this to be pointless rbh, but can't exclude them from information gathering. I never see him any more, but a guy called The Saint Tsero used to cause us some trouble in his Falcon. He was amazingly good at figuring out which miner we were going to gank even when using cloaky warpins. There were a couple of others, but since he was always around when they were, I assume they were his alts, but could be wrong. But if The Saint was around, ganking miners was going to be a lot tougher. I think his secret was that he was just as dedicated as we are. He wasn't thinking about the isk/hr he was losing by sitting in his Falcon for hours. He didn't start watching youtube videos just because there wasn't any action for 10min. And above all, I think he did it because it was fun, not because he was really interested in helping miners.
I remember some months ago, having to haul ass and get an Orca gank off real quick because The Saint was 10 jumps out and closing. That guy was awesome. ... |

El Geo
Pathfinders. Veni Vidi Vici Alliance
188
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Posted - 2014.04.14 22:24:00 -
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I'm liking this Saint guys style path-+find-+er (pthfndr, p+ñth-)n. 1. One that discovers a new course or way, especially through or into unexplored regions.
http://www.youtube.com/user/EvEPathfinders/videos?view=0 |
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