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Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20739	Posted - 2014.04.14 18:56:00 - [1] - Quote Varesk wrote: You cant see anything in that video that would remotely be called an exploit. GÇªaside from an otherwise impossible velocity on a ship that can only ever really be achieved through warp- or cyno-bumping, and which just so happens to coincide with a very well-known exploit to reach through POS shields. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20740	Posted - 2014.04.14 20:34:00 - [2] - Quote Varesk wrote: Velocity can be achieved if part of the titan was sticking out of the POS shield and bumbed when Titans jumped in. Or, more likely, it was not sticking out and they deliberately picked an otherwise unnecessarily close point to the POS to jump to. It's especially unnecessary since doing so puts you at risk at triggering an exploit that will get you tossed out on your ears and forcing you to make up all kinds of highly unlikely explanations for what happened. If he was sticking out, they would just have jumped in safely and DD:ed him without risking their own ships. Quote: Which is what happened here. How do you know? Quote: No exploits no loop holes GÇªaside from the whole bumping a ship that was inside the POS shield bit. Quote: yes you can be in the pos and ~~part of your titan will still stick out~~ still be bumped, hence why he was bumped at over 1k. GÇªand it also happens when you bump a ship that's inside the shield, so there's no -ÿhenceGÇ¥ to be drawn from the unlikely scenario you describe, but which still matches the well-known exploits. Quote: Please dont let facts stop the GÇªfeeble attempts at covering up a very blatant and obvious use of exploits. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20742	Posted - 2014.04.14 20:48:00 - [3] - Quote Doc Fury wrote: Only CCP knows what happened for sure, but after reading some of the replies I'mma going to guess that this was petitioned and is being brought to the General Drama forums only because CCPs answer was not well received. Entirely possible. It doesn't make the video (and in particular its edit) any less suspect though. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20742	Posted - 2014.04.14 21:05:00 - [4] - Quote voetius wrote: We were dicking around in Fountain and the BoB pets were all POS'ed up when Vee said on comms that he would show us how POS bowling worked, at which my little ears perked up. He had got hold of the POS passwords GÇªand at that point, it's no longer POS bowling GÇö just good old bumping. PotatoOverdose wrote: Guys, guys, don't cyno in too close to the hostile pos, its unnecessary! Nevermind other considerations in the heat of battle, our enemies might get upset. It has nothing to do with making people upset. It has to do with risking your own ships and your own accounts for no good reasons. Also, there's a distinct lack of heat of battle here. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20744	Posted - 2014.04.14 21:11:00 - [5] - Quote PotatoOverdose wrote: Eh, whenever Titans are involved, everything is 1 cyno away from a major clusterfuck, especially given the alliances involved. That risk is enough of an element of "heat", IMO. Oh, sure, but that's more GÇ£heat of ~~CAOD~~ kuguGÇ¥ than GÇ£heat of battleGÇ¥. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20744	Posted - 2014.04.14 21:16:00 - [6] - Quote PotatoOverdose wrote: Also, if a Part of a titan is sticking out of a shield, and I bump the part that's sticking out, is that an exploit? I'm actually curious about this as I don't know the answer. WeeeellGÇª the wording in the usual CYA/GM-discretion style is GÇ£Bumping ships, that are located within password protected starbase force-fields, out of the force-field from outside without having the correct password or corporation/alliance permissions as configured in the tower settings, is considered an exploitGÇ¥ (emphasis mine). Personally, I'd consider a ship that can't be targeted because the POS shield prohibits it as GÇ£located withinGÇ¥ the shield. For most ships, that holds true, but the oversized collision spheres on top of the already oversized bodies of Titans make the mechanics diverge. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20748	Posted - 2014.04.14 21:36:00 - [7] - Quote iskflakes wrote: You know, this whole issue could have been avoided if titans were more reasonably sized in the first place. Reducing their size by a factor of 4 would probably be the best buff CCP could ever give them. Nah. Just make it so that anything that interacts or intersects with a POS shield on jumping (in or out) explodes instantly, leaving nothing behind, before any other physics simulation effects are calculated. That should put a damper on things. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20751	Posted - 2014.04.14 21:51:00 - [8] - Quote iskflakes wrote: Or even better -- stay with me here -- CCP could implement some code, right, so that when you jumped to a cyno on a tower (still with me?), you spawn at least one ship radius away from the tower. AND -- get this -- all the things would spawn in DIFFERENT places, rather than all inside each other. I know, I know. This idea is so mindbogglingly complicated that it would take the best minds at CCP several hours to implement. Nonono. That's not a problem. The large downside with your idea is that it doesn't enforce enlightened self-intrest through massive explosions. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.

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