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Dominic karin Trojan Legion Fidelas Constans 39	Posted - 2014.04.16 23:22:00 - [1] - Quote Both Soundwave and Navigator went to Riot, stillman went to an Icelandic IT Security firm and Unifex hasn't announced where he is going next. It seems like CCP is losing employees left and right. Anyone care to speculate as to why? ITT: Stealth Eve is dying thread. Discuss.
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 4584	Posted - 2014.04.16 23:27:00 - [2] - Quote --> Do go on.... The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
Zeko Rena ENCOM Industries 884	Posted - 2014.04.16 23:28:00 - [3] - Quote Because people get bored and like change.
DaReaper Net 7 The Last Brigade 372	Posted - 2014.04.16 23:28:00 - [4] - Quote Dominic karin wrote: Both Soundwave and Navigator went to Riot, stillman went to an Icelandic IT Security firm and Unifex hasn't announced where he is going next. It seems like CCP is losing employees left and right. Anyone care to speculate as to why? ITT: Stealth Eve is dying thread. Discuss. No. Business lose people, gain new ones, this is nothing. It COULD be something, but I doubt it.
Dominic karin Trojan Legion Fidelas Constans 39	Posted - 2014.04.16 23:29:00 - [5] - Quote Zeko Rena wrote: Because people get bored and like change. Seems like it's happening in pretty quick succession though.
DaReaper Net 7 The Last Brigade 372	Posted - 2014.04.16 23:32:00 - [6] - Quote Dominic karin wrote: Zeko Rena wrote: Because people get bored and like change. Seems like it's happening in pretty quick succession though. Not doesn't. CCP is small compaired to larger companies, so when someone leaves it makes a bigger impact. But tis still nothing. As I said it COULD be, but eve seems stable, so boo knows. I honestly am not worried about it at this time.
okst666 Uncharted Skies Cerberus Unleashed 264	Posted - 2014.04.16 23:33:00 - [7] - Quote Maybe they want to evolve or see opportunities. Maybe they are sick of it all - because CCP is not happy people center, it's just another gamescompany and the business is a harsh cold world with a lot of other people and stuff to do that you're gonna hate when you work there, usually like in the company you work for yourself . We do not know, because we don't there - all we could do is wish them a good fortune. [X] < Nail here for new monitor
Mr M Sebiestor Tribe 340	Posted - 2014.04.16 23:35:00 - [8] - Quote Maybe he just want to be able to play with his main again? If Lord Zap or someone comes back in the next couple of week that's when you can start to suspect things. Share your experience Write for the EVE Tribune www.eve-tribune.com
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 12225	Posted - 2014.04.16 23:40:00 - [9] - Quote Didn't we just have this thread? *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Dominic karin Trojan Legion Fidelas Constans 39	Posted - 2014.04.16 23:42:00 - [10] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Didn't we just have this thread? It wasn't on the front page so I assumed it didn't exist. That's correct logic right?
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 1134	Posted - 2014.04.16 23:43:00 - [11] - Quote Dominic karin wrote: Seems like it's happening in pretty quick succession though. If you work, what's the turnover rate in your own workplace? It's not 0. All businesses and government organisations have a natural rate of turnover and the tech industry has one of the highest rates of turnover amongst large industries. (2013 PayScale survey results discussed here). People moving is not itself a reason for alarm. If the rate changes, or is out of step with other companies in the same industry, then it needs closer attention. From what I know of CCP, it seems there is nothing extraordinary about their turnover rate. It seems to be quite low by industry standards, but I'm sure not every staff departure results in a thread in GD, so I could be wrong. . -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦)
Dominic karin Trojan Legion Fidelas Constans 39	Posted - 2014.04.16 23:47:00 - [12] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: Dominic karin wrote: Seems like it's happening in pretty quick succession though. If you work, what's the turnover rate in your own workplace? It's not 0. All businesses and government organisations have a natural rate of turnover and the tech industry has one of the highest rates of turnover amongst large industries. (2013 PayScale survey results discussed here). People moving is not itself a reason for alarm. If the rate changes, or is out of step with other companies in the same industry, then it needs closer attention. From what I know of CCP, it seems there is nothing extraordinary about their turnover rate. It seems to be quite low by industry standards, but I'm sure not every staff departure results in a thread in GD, so I could be wrong. Maybe I am making more out of it than there is to be made since I've met each of these people in person at fanfest. Just seems high to me. To answer your first question most places I've worked have a turnover of around 2 maybe 3 employees a year.
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 1134	Posted - 2014.04.16 23:52:00 - [13] - Quote Dominic karin wrote: To answer your first question most places I've worked have a turnover of around 2 maybe 3 employees a year. How many employees total? I've worked in industries with extremely low turnover and a few years ago strategies were introduced to increase it to 10% in order to bring in fresh ideas. My current work has a 7% turnover (which is mandated by our maximum allowed tenure of 7-years in the Organisation). . -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦)
Dominic karin Trojan Legion Fidelas Constans 39	Posted - 2014.04.16 23:56:00 - [14] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: Dominic karin wrote: To answer your first question most places I've worked have a turnover of around 2 maybe 3 employees a year. How many employees total? I've worked in an industry with extremely low turnover and a few years ago strategies were introduced nationally to increase it to 10% in order to bring in fresh ideas and more youth (to help with succession planning as a retirement bubble was developing). My current work has a 7% turnover (which is mandated by our maximum allowed tenure of 7-years in the Organisation). Interesting.
Sibyyl 389	Posted - 2014.04.17 00:06:00 - [15] - Quote I know a lot of you guys like to think that you know how CCP is dying from attrition, or that they just won't have enough developers to wipe your POS related tears if they work on WIS, or how ship skins or rebalancing or refining nerfs will start a mass lemming abandonment of EVE for Star Citizen.. but I really just wish you'd simply just stop. You post on a forum. You don't manage CCP's finances, hire or work with its developers, or understand CCP's development direction until the company decides to tell you in a dev post. Can we keep our discussions to the game itself? And if you have to criticize the company who develops the game we all really like.. why not take the extra time and do it politely? /Fÿ¡ Now that you are campers you will have more parties and no more sad lonely bubbles.
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 596	Posted - 2014.04.17 01:39:00 - [16] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: You can still find industries with long careers, but most people are much more mobile these days. The IT industry especially so. Yep and post 50 years of age you are usually mobile out of IT altogether :D
Doireen Kaundur 711	Posted - 2014.04.17 01:48:00 - [17] - Quote If you are so focused on the employment habits of game developers, then you seriously need to get a life. CCP is a business.....not your family. CCP is concerned with your money.....not your feelings. "CCP (fill in blank)" works for a living. Not for your pleasure. A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á
Antisocial Malkavian Antisocial Malkavians 711	Posted - 2014.04.17 03:06:00 - [18] - Quote DaReaper wrote: Dominic karin wrote: Both Soundwave and Navigator went to Riot, stillman went to an Icelandic IT Security firm and Unifex hasn't announced where he is going next. It seems like CCP is losing employees left and right. Anyone care to speculate as to why? ITT: Stealth Eve is dying thread. Discuss. No. Business lose people, gain new ones, this is nothing. It COULD be something, but I doubt it. Losing employees, firing most of White Wolf Atlanta, cancelling WoD, yeah seems rosy to me And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.
Evelyn Meiyi Ministry of War Amarr Empire 136	Posted - 2014.04.17 03:56:00 - [19] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: How many employees total? I've worked in an industry with extremely low turnover and a few years ago strategies were introduced nationally to increase it to 10% in order to bring in fresh ideas and more youth (to help with succession planning as a retirement bubble was developing). My current work has a 7% turnover (which is mandated by our maximum allowed tenure of 7-years in the Organisation). I'm not saying there is no issue at CCP, just that people leaving isn't itself evidence of a problem. 40-year careers in the one place aren't the norm anymore. You can still find industries with long careers, but most people are much more mobile these days. The IT industry especially so. Really, CCP's turnover is well within expectations for the industry, and everything I've seen so far indicates that this is just a regular operational change.
Muestereate Minions LLC 297	Posted - 2014.04.17 03:59:00 - [20] - Quote would you rather work for somebody that growing or somebody thats swinging the ax?
Felicity Love Whore and Peace 1680	Posted - 2014.04.17 04:45:00 - [21] - Quote Don't really care who's hired, fired or retired... just get on with a BIG MUCKING expansion for a change. And although this year's summer expansion is beginning to show some potential, we've seen the song and dance before only to find out the party was cancelled. Just saying. ... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
Soulpirate Caldari Provisions Caldari State 347	Posted - 2014.04.17 04:51:00 - [22] - Quote Personally I have never left a job that I liked, or a company that was growing for that matter. When you see key members of a company politely pealing away from a company, you can be damn sure there is a bigger story to be told. They wont be the last, and don't be surprised to see an announcement of another downsizing shortly after fanfest.
Muestereate Minions LLC 297	Posted - 2014.04.17 05:16:00 - [23] - Quote My experience at work is that once the paring down starts, it becomes a miserable place to work because everybody below and above you is looking over their shoulders. It gets like playing EVE a bit I guess. :) When companies are new, a creative free and exhilarating feeling follows you in and out of work and into your own life. Once the paring starts, life loses its sheen. Looking back, I made mistakes by not moving on when I first saw it coming. As far as wer concerned, the paring down doesn't mean the companies going under at all, in fact running lean becomes neccesary to keep number growth happening but real growth in a human sense is over, values flip upside down, denial, delusion and perfectionsism replace open mindendess, vision and the humanity of making mistakes and learning. A corporation ceases to be a collection of like minded people and degrades into a business model, a structure or in programming parlance, a function inputting and outputting data. An administrative machine. no wonder a cog is how we feel. Cold and hard and grinding. Life is too short, move the F*** on.
Myxx 714	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:03:00 - [24] - Quote Mr M wrote: Maybe he just want to be able to play with his main again? If Lord Zap or someone comes back in the next couple of week that's when you can start to suspect things. I don't think Unifex was anyone high profile that they would be noticed.
Caleb Seremshur Capital Storm. Black Flag Society 228	Posted - 2014.04.17 08:39:00 - [25] - Quote Coming from an industry that had 110% turn over 3 years ago I wonder about other places who don't experience at least 20% per annum. At the very least the junior and senior staff should be moving on: juniors line their resumes and the seniors semi-retire to a consultant role. LP store weapon cost rebalance
Antisocial Malkavian Antisocial Malkavians 715	Posted - 2014.04.17 20:02:00 - [26] - Quote Mind you they were downsizing after the summer of rage too; and ppl were just as loud about all the reasons eve was dying then too And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.
Volar Kang Kang Industrial 136	Posted - 2014.04.17 20:15:00 - [27] - Quote This is nothing, what really made me wonder was when Nathan Richardsson left in Jan of 2012. That was real news, this is just normal attrition.
Dragon Outlaw Rogue Fleet 184	Posted - 2014.04.17 20:26:00 - [28] - Quote I would be more concerned if it would be CCP Seagull leaving. The "vision" would go "pouf" !
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 3187	Posted - 2014.04.17 20:27:00 - [29] - Quote DaReaper wrote: Not doesn't. CCP is small compaired to larger companies, so when someone leaves it makes a bigger impact. But tis still nothing. As I said it COULD be, but eve seems stable, so boo knows. I honestly am not worried about it at this time. LOL @ emphasis... WoD axed... well known CCPers bouncing... we're getting a lot of bad news. Maybe CCP should give us some good news. cockandballs. Every. Time. EvE Spaceship Guide Works in game only and not updated often
BrundleMeth Caldari Provisions Caldari State 115	Posted - 2014.04.17 20:48:00 - [30] - Quote Sibyyl wrote: I know a lot of you guys like to think that you know how CCP is dying from attrition, or that they just won't have enough developers to wipe your POS related tears if they work on WIS, or how ship skins or rebalancing or refining nerfs will start a mass lemming abandonment of EVE for Star Citizen.. but I really just wish you'd stop. You post on a forum. You don't manage CCP's finances, hire or work with its developers, or understand CCP's development direction until the company decides to tell you in a dev post. Can we keep our discussions to the game itself? And if you have to criticize the company who develops the game we all really like.. why not take the extra time and do it politely? /Fÿ¡ Wow... At my company you would be labelled everything from a company man to a brown noser or an ass kisser... Definately an undesirable...

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