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Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20873	Posted - 2014.04.17 04:56:00 - [1] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: I have waited so long to say this. Can I have your stuff? Unsubbing 6 accounts != quitting EVE, bad luck troll. Sure, but it still means 6 accounts that don't need their stuff any more. So hand it over for safe-keeping. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20875	Posted - 2014.04.17 05:10:00 - [2] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: No it doesn't. It means transferring all the stuff to my other 2 accounts. That doesn't make sense. If those 6 accounts still needed their stuff, you wouldn't be transferring it, now would you? But you are, so obviously it does mean they don't need their stuff any more and you can hand it over for safe-keeping. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20878	Posted - 2014.04.17 05:24:00 - [3] - Quote KnowUsByTheDead wrote: To quote Moon and Entwistle.... "This is going down like a lead ballon." Isn't that just a matter of picking the right gas for the balloon? I seem to recall seeing it on mythbusters or something. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20885	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:05:00 - [4] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: GM's are paid by CCP to apply the rules. They can't disagree since the rules are quite distinct regarding real life harassment of one player by another. They can disagree with your interpretation of the rules just fine. In fact, it rather looks like they did. Also, where's the real-life harassment here? I seem to recall that the EULA states that you should take such matters to your local law-enforcement agency. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20894	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:10:00 - [5] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: Clearly following one player around constantly is harassing. That entirely depends on how it's being done. How much of it is just the two of you occupying and vying for the same bit of space? Quote: I'm not having a meltdown Your OP and subsequent posting suggests otherwise. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20899	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:18:00 - [6] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: So what in my posts points to me having a meltdown. Your raging and accusations against the GMs; your insistence of calling people trolls and generally lashing out at them for not agreeing with you; your petulant response to the accusations levelled at you; your inability to properly articulate and provide evidence for what has happened, mainly. Quote: I strongly oppose any decision of yours to branch out into forum psychology. Don't worry, I have no plans to. I would suggest, however, that your decision to branch out into backseat-GM:ing might not be a good oneGÇª GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20905	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:27:00 - [7] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: I saw no raging. That's probably because your reading of your own posts is coloured by your opinion on the matter GÇö from the outside, it looks a lot like raging. Quote: I see exaggeration and I see a lot of stupidity in this thread but its clearly not my posts or my OP. With the amount of evidence you've been able to provide in support, and with the kind of response you've described, there's plenty of exaggeration and stupidity in your actions as well, trust me on that one. Quote: I think the posters in this thread defending passive aggressive IRL harassment against another player There you go again. Where is the real-life harassment in all this? Have you followed the prescribed course in the EULA and reported it to your local law enforcement? Or are you just confused about what the rules say about GÇ£IRL harassmentGÇ¥ or about what the term means, because that kind of confusion would probably be a clue in explaining why the outcome was the opposite of the one you were expecting. Quote: is that acceptable to you people in real life, child molestation and sexual assault being some form of funny quip? All it is is the two of you exchanging insults. Apparently, yours were bad enough to warrant a warning (and your over-reaction to this very mild slap on the wrist isGÇª interesting), and we have no idea how bad they considered his insults. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20910	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:36:00 - [8] - Quote Just because you feel he was harassing you doesn't mean that you harassing him back won't come back to bite you. As it is, we have proof of the latter and no actual information on the former, so that's where we are. You seem to be assuming that just because you're the (self-proclaimed) victim here, you are entirely without fault. That is obviously not a view shared by the ones who decide who has or hasn't done something wrong. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20918	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:50:00 - [9] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: Yes because that's what I was called a fkking pedophile. Its not funny. Why don't you go tell your kids or wife how funny people being called child molesters are... Again, the only one who in some way associates it with being funny is you, and it is still a red herring you're trying to use to divert attention away from the simple fact that all that's really going on here is that you were being abusive to another player, and that you got a mild slap on the wrist for it. Bringing it up over and over again won't change the herring into a cod. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20918	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:53:00 - [10] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: Telling someone off because they think pedophila is funny is now bullying? Inventing a strawman just so you can yell at them comes awfully closeGÇª GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20925	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:59:00 - [11] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: I would dearly love to embarrass someone who thinks pedophilia is funny. GÇªand yet, the only one who's remotely suggesting that it is, is you. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20934	Posted - 2014.04.17 07:09:00 - [12] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: Actually you're all having a good laugh at someone being harrassed over a period of months and called a pedophile. Obviously you find the idea of someone being accused of watching underage children engaging in illegal sexual acts funny. And the non sequitur is that laughing at someone who rages over being slapped on the wrist is somehow equivalent to thinking that pedophilia is funny. You're the only one suggesting that it is; no-one else has done so. It's a red herring and it only ever reflects poorly on you that you have to resort to such contrived accusations to detract from not having made a compelling argument in the first place. Quote: Its not funny, its extremely disturbing and your support of it is appalling. Another non-sequitur straw man. Opposing your outrage over what looks like a pretty clear case of self-victimisation is not the same thing as supporting whatever it was the other guy accused you of. It is, in fact, entirely unrelated to why people are having fun at your expense. You were being abusive; you got slapped for it; you are raging over the effect your behaviour had, and people find your overreaction hilarious. In response, you are being abusive (which will undoubtedly have its effect as well), and people once again find your overreaction hilarious. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20934	Posted - 2014.04.17 07:14:00 - [13] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: If you're here making fun of pedophilia I will approach you and ask you your actual real position on it. Non-threateningly and peacefully of course. GÇªbut since no-one has done so and it is just a nonsensical strawman you've invented, the actual effect will be that you will physically intimidate people for a completely imaginary reason. There's a word that is often used to describe that kind of behaviour, you knowGÇª GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20943	Posted - 2014.04.17 07:19:00 - [14] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: Hey I don't know your real sex, I'm just inferring it from your posts. No sexism intended. Now there's a contradiction if I ever saw one. GÇ£No sexism intended by this inference drawn on nothing but sexist assumptions.GÇ¥ Quote: I don't intend to physically intimidate people. Its just a side effect of my job. Doesn't matter. The effect is much the same, and if anything it's made worse by your awareness of this effect. So the label still applies quite nicely. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20948	Posted - 2014.04.17 07:27:00 - [15] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: The mentality and behavior of people in this thread is really appalling. You mean not taking your raging accusations at face value, and instead pointing out the hypocrisy of your actions? No, that's not really appalling behaviour. It shows a healthy level of source critique if anything. If it's the laughing at your having your intent be entirely reversed (both with the petitions and the thread itself), that's just the normal reaction to comic irony. Quote: I feel sorry for you all. I'm sure the feeling is not mutual. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20949	Posted - 2014.04.17 08:13:00 - [16] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: This thread is the "like fountain". 1110 likes so far in 16 pages. Only 754 views. Mind blown. I suspect that the original intent was lost somewhere along the way. At least now it has a use and a purpose. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20957	Posted - 2014.04.17 08:26:00 - [17] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: The only ISBoxing I do is in UF-KKH in stealth bombers, somewhere he is not. So he's not actually following you around, then? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20961	Posted - 2014.04.17 08:39:00 - [18] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: Whether you're a low life and think that's fine is not important, what is important is its a breach of the EULA and as such should be taken care of. GÇªand apparently, the GM's don't agree with your assessment of the situation. Considering the fact that you even got slapped with a warning for your own bit of harassment, there's a fair chance that they just see it as two people competing for the same bit of space, with harsh words flying in both directions. The fact that you got slapped shows that they're clearly doing something, and you have no way of knowing what's happening on the other side of the conflict. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20966	Posted - 2014.04.17 08:49:00 - [19] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: It doesn't matter if the GM's agree or not. Sure it does. It's what determines the outcome of your petition. Just because you see it one way doesn't mean you are in the right and that the GMs will rule in your favour. Quote: CCP do not get to pick and choose which clauses they enforce and which ones they don't. GÇªand guess who's deciding whether or not you or the other guy is in breach of a clause and in need of enforcement? Guess whose assessment of the situation is what determines the outcome? If they determine that it's not harassment but just two people competing for space, the harassment clause is not applicable. And again, you have no way of determining what happens on the other side as far as the mutual mud-slinging goes GÇö you got slapped for your part so what makes you think that he didn't get slapped for his? Quote: If things had been kept in game, then things would have remained in game. As far as we can tell, it has been kept in-game. No out-of-game harassment is taking place, and if it does, it's something you should take to your local law enforcement agency anyway. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20966	Posted - 2014.04.17 08:55:00 - [20] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: The law decides. Actually, when it comes to enforcing the EULA, the GMs decide. Quote: CCP makes an agreement with the users, they MUST stick to that agreement, as much as the user must stick to that agreement. GÇªand nothing here suggests that they're not doing that. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20975	Posted - 2014.04.17 09:06:00 - [21] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: Insinuating that I am a pedophile or that I am watching child **** is an offence in Iceland. This is the relevant general penal code of Iceland. So take it up with your local law enforcement. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20975	Posted - 2014.04.17 09:14:00 - [22] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: This person committed an criminal offence under the law of iceland, not a civil offence So take it up with the Icelandic legal system. Quote: The person is in breach of the EULA and should be dealt with. GÇªaccording to you. The GMs apparently don't agree, at least not as far as you can tell (but then, you wouldn't be told of the outcome anyway). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20978	Posted - 2014.04.17 09:17:00 - [23] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: What they are going to see is that you allow players in your game to be harassed and abused by other players for no other reasons other than to degrade and ruin the play experience of the person being harassed. Do you have any proof of this? Quote: What are you going to do about this? Have a good laugh and lock the thread, most likely. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20978	Posted - 2014.04.17 09:21:00 - [24] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: Actually CCP have made a promise, that's what an EULA clause is, to deal with these types of players. Where in the EULA did they promise this? Quote: If they did do that they'd be liable for breach of contract. No, it's pretty much what they have to do according to the forum rules. Ok, maybe not the laughter bit, but I'm sure it'll happen anyway. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20982	Posted - 2014.04.17 09:28:00 - [25] - Quote KnowUsByTheDead wrote: Benny Ohu wrote: ...and they'll see it has you in it Infinity Ziona........reason EvE Is Dying? I've heard more far-fetched reasons vOv GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20982	Posted - 2014.04.17 09:34:00 - [26] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: CCP may take any action it deems appropriate regarding any User Content, if CCP believes, in its sole discretion, that such User Content violates the EULA or may expose CCP, its licensors and/or its suppliers to liability, damage CCP's relationship with any of its suppliers, licensors, ISPs or other users of EVE, harm anyone or harm CCP's reputation or goodwill. GÇªand apparently, they have deemed it appropriate to not make the same assessment of the situation as you did or to take a different action, at their discretion, than the one you were hoping for. Quote: Icelandic case law GÇªis perhaps not entirely applicable to either you or the other party. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20989	Posted - 2014.04.17 09:39:00 - [27] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: CCP as an Icelandic company are subject to the laws of Iceland. So sue them, if you want to blame them for the alleged defamation. And again, you have no evidence to support the notion that they haven't fulfilled their any promises made or are in any way in breach of contract. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20991	Posted - 2014.04.17 09:51:00 - [28] - Quote Khanh'rhh wrote: Soooo I'm not going to read 20 pages of IZ wailing about his latest malady, but did he manage to answer why his block function doesn't work? Apparently, he needed to know whether the AFK cloaker supposedly haranguing him was AFK or haranguing him. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20994	Posted - 2014.04.17 10:01:00 - [29] - Quote Quinn Hatfield wrote: SKINE DMZ wrote: Khanh'rhh wrote: Soooo I'm not going to read 20 pages of IZ wailing about his latest malady It's worth it though. It's nearly as entertaining as watching the king who was his own cousin choke to death at his wedding reception. Oooh. Are we doing that again? Nymeria is still alive and causing problems for Arya. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 20994	Posted - 2014.04.17 10:04:00 - [30] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: You might want to edudimicate yourself on the law in Iceland. This is not a matter for tort law, its a criminal offence. It doesn't matter if the person was not identified, it only matters that he accused me of being a pedophile and inferred that I was watching child ** to be criminal. So take it to court, in Iceland. Quote:** The EULA specifically states that you may not commit a criminal offence with the EvE client, nor may you harass or defame or otherwise hurt another player. GÇªand apparently, the GMs have not made the same assessment as you have, and that really is all that matters. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.

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