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Hardin	Posted - 2006.05.15 08:55:00 - [1] Edited by: Hardin on 15/05/2006 08:55:13 I am sure most of you know about this already but I know for sure some of you don't after witnessing a number of people lose their ships to this trick over the past couple of days. A corporation - wittily called 'Gankerz' - set up a small POS in Yong - a 0.4 system. One of their members would then initiate a cyno field at the POS and inform local that a mothership or something equally cool was jumping in. Amazingly (and we witnessed this happening on several occasions) curious neutrals would warp to the cyno to see what was happening and then get warp scrambled and ganked by the POS. I am pleased to say that this particular POS has now been explosively dismantled by the CVA but I just wanted to remind people that warping to CYNOs is not necessarily the smartest thing to do. -------------------------------------------- Smiting pirates and terrorists for Amarr
bundy bear	Posted - 2006.05.15 09:12:00 - [2] lol
B0rn2KiLL	Posted - 2006.05.15 09:19:00 - [3] --- new sig, Hijack it and ill eat u. *Imaran hands B0rn2KiLL a fork - Come get some!11
poepmongool	Posted - 2006.05.15 09:19:00 - [4] A corp called muffinman does the same in the system Messoya. It traps the most of the newer players. Pretty *** on the first hand, but pretty smart on the other too :). Beware for cynosural fields everyone!
Cyborg3201	Posted - 2006.05.15 09:59:00 - [5] i whas in gankerz corp only 2 people in it now (that are alive) did not even know they hade cash for that you can kill them on site dont be scared off corp numbers __________________________ Cybernetics in Motion
Twilight Moon	Posted - 2006.05.15 10:01:00 - [6] Lol....why would you go near a Cyno field if its not yours? "Oooh.....pretty lights....OMGWTFMOTHERSHIP!! BBQ!!"
Jebidus Skari	Posted - 2006.05.15 10:09:00 - [7] That is so cheap
Hardin	Posted - 2006.05.15 10:10:00 - [8] Originally by: Cyborg3201 i whas in gankerz corp only 2 people in it now (that are alive) did not even know they hade cash for that you can kill them on site dont be scared off corp numbers Well the two active members that we know about now are FStenz and Clash(something). We stole and blew up FStenz Anathema which he left outside the POS a few days ago and last night executed the POS... -------------------------------------------- Smiting pirates and terrorists for Amarr
Seleene	Posted - 2006.05.15 10:11:00 - [9] Edited by: Seleene on 15/05/2006 10:11:27 Originally by: Twilight Moon Lol....why would you go near a Cyno field if its not yours? It never fails. Every time we move a cap ship fleet, we always have an audience. It's always kind of amusing, especially when Golan starts using local chat to convert the local heathens. When a couple ships jump in, people are usually all, "Ooohhh... pretty!" When ten or twelve jump in people start asking questions like, "You're not shooting at us are you??" - History of the MC movie!
Wendat Huron	Posted - 2006.05.15 10:41:00 - [10] Originally by: poepmongool A corp called muffinman does the same in the system Messoya. It traps the most of the newer players. Pretty *** on the first hand, but pretty smart on the other too :). Beware for cynosural fields everyone! Leave if to the muffins to use every borderline exploit in the book.
Twilight Moon	Posted - 2006.05.15 10:46:00 - [11] Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 15/05/2006 10:11:27When a couple ships jump in, people are usually all, "Ooohhh... pretty!" When ten or twelve jump in people start asking questions like, "You're not shooting at us are you??" I prefer the tactic of run first, ask questions later.
Arkanor	Posted - 2006.05.15 10:47:00 - [12] Originally by: Wendat Huron Originally by: poepmongool A corp called muffinman does the same in the system Messoya. It traps the most of the newer players. Pretty *** on the first hand, but pretty smart on the other too :). Beware for cynosural fields everyone! Leave if to the muffins to use every borderline exploit in the book. Social engineering =/= exploit. ________________________________________________ \_/ <-- My care cup, LOOK it's empty!
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.05.15 10:54:00 - [13] thriving off other player's stupidity is not an exploit: its what a lot of eve is about
Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.05.15 10:58:00 - [14] mmm if u wanna see a regular dread or carrier imperium recharge their ships with traffic control being the alt cyno field layer and ciz menjij (not sure on spelling) coming out near KFR-ZE
Kai Lae	Posted - 2006.05.15 10:59:00 - [15] Originally by: Hardin Edited by: Hardin on 15/05/2006 08:55:13 I am sure most of you know about this already but I know for sure some of you don't after witnessing a number of people lose their ships to this trick over the past couple of days. A corporation - wittily called 'Gankerz' - set up a small POS in Yong - a 0.4 system. One of their members would then initiate a cyno field at the POS and inform local that a mothership or something equally cool was jumping in. Amazingly (and we witnessed this happening on several occasions) curious neutrals would warp to the cyno to see what was happening and then get warp scrambled and ganked by the POS. I am pleased to say that this particular POS has now been explosively dismantled by the CVA but I just wanted to remind people that warping to CYNOs is not necessarily the smartest thing to do. We did this to bob once (without the local melodrama though) and they warped a interceptor and a battleship to a large POS....Hilarity ensues! "Warp to me..." Raptor and Ares Fix
Plutoinum	Posted - 2006.05.15 11:06:00 - [16] Grats to the one, who had this idea.
Max Teranous	Posted - 2006.05.15 11:07:00 - [17] I've seen it happen a couple of times - people just can't help clicking that "warp to". Very amusing tho Max
Telemicus Thrace	Posted - 2006.05.15 11:16:00 - [18] Originally by: Hardin Edited by: Hardin on 15/05/2006 08:55:13 I am sure most of you know about this already but I know for sure some of you don't after witnessing a number of people lose their ships to this trick over the past couple of days. A corporation - wittily called 'Gankerz' - set up a small POS in Yong - a 0.4 system. One of their members would then initiate a cyno field at the POS and inform local that a mothership or something equally cool was jumping in. Amazingly (and we witnessed this happening on several occasions) curious neutrals would warp to the cyno to see what was happening and then get warp scrambled and ganked by the POS. I am pleased to say that this particular POS has now been explosively dismantled by the CVA but I just wanted to remind people that warping to CYNOs is not necessarily the smartest thing to do. Let's not forget the old chestnut of the sabbed set of instas. The look like a normal set of instas but some will drop you onto a sun or hostile POS. The really funny one is when the POS they drop onto has nothing to do with you and it kicks off a whole messy chain of events. Never buy instas from strangers >> RECRUITING <<
Wendat Huron	Posted - 2006.05.15 11:20:00 - [19] Originally by: HippoKing thriving off other player's stupidity is not an exploit: its what a lot of eve is about What is your escrow scammer alts name?
F Stenz	Posted - 2006.05.15 12:09:00 - [20] Edited by: F Stenz on 15/05/2006 12:11:22 omg pirats it was a mining pos :(
F Stenz	Posted - 2006.05.15 12:15:00 - [21] not my fault people warps in at cyno when we are trying to get oure mining mothership in to help mining
James Lyrus	Posted - 2006.05.15 12:20:00 - [22] Or for real evils, leave the guns offline, and just cover it with ECMs scramblers and webbers. Can't warp, max speed 0.1 gives plenty of time to 'negotiate'. Unless they just want to eject and warp off of course. -- We are recruiting We sell Chimeras.
Twilight Moon	Posted - 2006.05.15 12:25:00 - [23] Do it in Gyerzen. Last time I saw one open there, a small crowd had gathered. You'll make a fortune in Strip Miner loot. Silly miners.
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.05.15 12:27:00 - [24] While it is very lame it's a good lesson for the curious newbies Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2006.05.15 12:44:00 - [25] Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 15/05/2006 10:11:27 Originally by: Twilight Moon Lol....why would you go near a Cyno field if its not yours? It never fails. Every time we move a cap ship fleet, we always have an audience. It's always kind of amusing, especially when Golan starts using local chat to convert the local heathens. When a couple ships jump in, people are usually all, "Ooohhh... pretty!" When ten or twelve jump in people start asking questions like, "You're not shooting at us are you??" This is why g...er...CCP invented cloaking devices :) "The Human eye is a marvelous device, with a very little effort it can overlook all but the most glaring injustice" - Quellchrist Falconer
Alberta	Posted - 2006.05.15 12:52:00 - [26] Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 15/05/2006 10:11:27 Originally by: Twilight Moon Lol....why would you go near a Cyno field if its not yours? It never fails. Every time we move a cap ship fleet, we always have an audience. It's always kind of amusing, especially when Golan starts using local chat to convert the local heathens. When a couple ships jump in, people are usually all, "Ooohhh... pretty!" When ten or twelve jump in people start asking questions like, "You're not shooting at us are you??" We had quite a funny one during the last IMP/VC war. Evol were moving their cap ships back from Outer Ring, one of the stops being Hophib. Cyno goes up and one of the hostiles goes to poke about, or at least I assume that's what he was doing from the exclamation in local shortly after it jumped up by about 15-20 people. My Thoughts on Game Balance
Kilo Paskaa	Posted - 2006.05.15 13:03:00 - [27] Clever boys, gotta make Pos so i could use this too . -------- As you can see, i pwned Kieron for iskies.
St Dragon	Posted - 2006.05.15 13:39:00 - [28] Originally by: Kilo Paskaa Clever boys, gotta make Pos so i could use this too . I prefer myidea [less expensive]. Just follow the wow cool croud warping in to see the capital ship warp in. Make sure i am cloaked when the kiling stops and the cap ship flys off scoop up the free loot. ----------------------------------------------- "Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand
Cruhser Walker	Posted - 2006.05.15 14:05:00 - [29] I wont deny that we had an pos out there. but, there were no guns on the pos. I guarantee it. They attacked it with no reason what so ever. This is an excellent example of a alliance using unprovocatin force and dictatorship. cyber, u've been kicked from the corp, so ofcourse would make some false information.
Lord Slater	Posted - 2006.05.15 14:27:00 - [30] Originally by: Cruhser Walker I wont deny that we had an pos out there. but, there were no guns on the pos. I guarantee it. They attacked it with no reason what so ever. This is an excellent example of a alliance using unprovocatin force and dictatorship. cyber, u've been kicked from the corp, so ofcourse would make some false information. Now your corp sounds so lame YARRR HAHAHA im the happy pirate YARRRR
Solar Fear	Posted - 2006.05.15 14:32:00 - [31] Edited by: Solar Fear on 15/05/2006 14:33:34 sad thing is i was warped to that same pos on saturday night...lost my ferox on my alt account.....thats what i get for snooping around i guess...
Parallax Error	Posted - 2006.05.15 14:34:00 - [32] Originally by: Cruhser Walker I wont deny that we had an pos out there. but, there were no guns on the pos. I guarantee it. They attacked it with no reason what so ever. This is an excellent example of a alliance using unprovocatin force and dictatorship. cyber, u've been kicked from the corp, so ofcourse would make some false information. Ahhh, so medium pulse laser battery's don't count as guns do they?
F Stenz	Posted - 2006.05.15 14:35:00 - [33] Originally by: Parallax Error Originally by: Cruhser Walker I wont deny that we had an pos out there. but, there were no guns on the pos. I guarantee it. They attacked it with no reason what so ever. This is an excellent example of a alliance using unprovocatin force and dictatorship. cyber, u've been kicked from the corp, so ofcourse would make some false information. Ahhh, so medium pulse laser battery's don't count as guns do they?
Laires Rellik	Posted - 2006.05.15 14:47:00 - [34] Edited by: Laires Rellik on 15/05/2006 14:47:58 Originally by: Solar Fear Edited by: Solar Fear on 15/05/2006 14:33:34 sad thing is i was warped to that same pos on saturday night...lost my ferox on my alt account.....thats what i get for snooping around i guess... Everyone makes mistakes and I'm sure you've definately learned from it. If it makes you feel any better, I lost 2 covops within 12 hours this weekend. You know, the ships that are impossible to lose unless you're ******* retarded? First due to a friendly bubble set up ahead of the friendly gang as I was chasing hostiles who scared off the bubble dropper. I was sucked in even at 100km off the gate and had no knowledge it was there and showed up next to a hostile inty who had been sucked in as well. Second was a misclick uncloaking at a gate camp instead of right-click -> warp. 120m gone in 12 hours (though within 3 game time hours as I logged after the first one, slept, and woke up to lose my newly purchased).
Itaro Flagg	Posted - 2006.05.15 15:50:00 - [35] Good to know its been dismantled. Saw the cyno the other day, and since I was in a non implant jump clone, figured id check it out with a shuttle. Didn't expect to come across a PoS at the other side. Was kind of amused by the ploy, and quite glad that I took decent precautions :)
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.05.15 16:01:00 - [36] Originally by: Wendat Huron Originally by: HippoKing thriving off other player's stupidity is not an exploit: its what a lot of eve is about What is your escrow scammer alts name? i don't have one
Galk	Posted - 2006.05.15 16:26:00 - [37] Glad to hear you botherd to waste your time taking down the dirty greifers pos. Doesn't suprise me to see people in the thread finding it funny, carpeting it and blaming clueless new guys for falling for it. Eve's wonderfull caring community in full effect ______ Long ago one gorgeous night, we let the stars grow free. We let Zhuge do that once, he came back carrying a traffic cone, a forsale sign and three empty bottles of dutch lager. He also lost his Zimmer Frame... - Imaran
Reash	Posted - 2006.05.15 16:48:00 - [38] JUst like to add here that the cyno generated at this POS did not disapear...i believe thats an exploit?
Cruhser Walker	Posted - 2006.05.15 17:22:00 - [39] Thats correct reash, but in this coincedence it was an accident.ccp is more than welcome to conco me or mail me with an explanation. I don't wanna discuss it on this forum.
Plutoinum	Posted - 2006.05.15 17:38:00 - [40] Edited by: Plutoinum on 15/05/2006 17:45:34 Originally by: Galk Glad to hear you botherd to waste your time taking down the dirty greifers pos. Doesn't suprise me to see people in the thread finding it funny, carpeting it and blaming clueless new guys for falling for it. Eve's wonderfull caring community in full effect It's low sec and if it was intended or not doesn't matter much. Cynofields can be next to an aggressive pos. If that cynofield is the final destination of a capital, it's really likely that it's next to a pos ! You either learn by informing yourself, learn by the mistakes of others or by doing the mistakes yourself. And if you are in low sec, you should be prepaired to learn some things the hard way anyway. A ship loss isn't the end of the world, especially in this case, where you do this mistake maybe once due to lack of knowledge, but not twice. I can only repeat: It's 0.4, think of it as a valuable lesson, no matter if it was a 'griefer pos' or not, get a new ship and move on.
Cummilla	Posted - 2006.05.15 17:52:00 - [41] Edited by: Cummilla on 15/05/2006 17:53:06 Originally by: Reash JUst like to add here that the cyno generated at this POS did not disapear...i believe thats an exploit? bug. I would guess. lesson here: don't warp to cynos in anything other than cov ops. EDIT: Was it lightly defended such that you took it out with BS? OR did you have to use "heavy assets"?
Kage Getsu	Posted - 2006.05.15 18:27:00 - [42] Edited by: Kage Getsu on 15/05/2006 18:27:34 My corp tried this in Beke the day the module was released. We already had over 100 kills with our starbase through other means, not counting shuttles and rookie ships. The Cynosural Field didn't help, though. It was more effective asking people for help with missions, and so forth. Edited for a bit of clarity _________________________________________________________
Galk	Posted - 2006.05.15 19:00:00 - [43] Originally by: Plutoinum Greifers are greifers mate. Learning the hardway and all the other rubbish, whatever... people do just hit the quit button and don't come back reguardless of your fine set of principles:/ Tbh stunts like this drag the game down, and if you want it pure and simple, the attitudes of those that defend such things as this i find worse and no better. You realy can't defend greif tactics anyway you jazz it up. ______ Long ago one gorgeous night, we let the stars grow free. We let Zhuge do that once, he came back carrying a traffic cone, a forsale sign and three empty bottles of dutch lager. He also lost his Zimmer Frame... - Imaran
Jaddor	Posted - 2006.05.15 19:15:00 - [44] Based on the POS owners (and former member) postings, I'd guess this was a corp of 15 year olds? Shame on anyone who fell for that.
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2006.05.15 19:16:00 - [45] I'd add that at least one 0.0 BM set still being sold dumps you outside a battlestar POS on at least one of its jumps "The Human eye is a marvelous device, with a very little effort it can overlook all but the most glaring injustice" - Quellchrist Falconer
xHjfx	Posted - 2006.05.16 13:43:00 - [46] Edited by: xHjfx on 16/05/2006 13:45:10 Originally by: Cruhser Walker Thats correct reash, but in this coincedence it was an accident.ccp is more than welcome to conco me or mail me with an explanation. I don't wanna discuss it on this forum. [ 2006.05.14 18:43:36 ] Cruhser Walker > hey mate [ 2006.05.14 18:43:41 ] Cruhser Walker > can you help me ? [ 2006.05.14 18:43:42 ] xHjfx > hi there [ 2006.05.14 18:43:52 ] Cruhser Walker > i just loost my zealet :/ [ 2006.05.14 18:43:58 ] Cruhser Walker > the is loot for like [ 2006.05.14 18:44:05 ] Cruhser Walker > 70mill or more [ 2006.05.14 18:44:12 ] xHjfx > where at? [ 2006.05.14 18:44:15 ] Cruhser Walker > i give you 20mill if you piak it op [ 2006.05.14 18:44:31 ] xHjfx > where? [ 2006.05.14 18:44:32 ] Cruhser Walker > 40km from cynosural field [ 2006.05.14 18:44:55 ] Cruhser Walker > 20mill [ 2006.05.14 18:45:07 ] Cruhser Walker > wee can trade at the station [ 2006.05.14 18:45:28 ] Cruhser Walker > plz help me [ 2006.05.14 18:45:40 ] xHjfx > what killed you? [ 2006.05.14 18:46:15 ] Cruhser Walker > som pirat.. :( there are in dg5 nov :/ [ 2006.05.14 18:46:25 ] xHjfx > Nice try mate :) [ 2006.05.14 18:46:27 ] Cruhser Walker > you can scan [ 2006.05.14 18:46:35 ] Cruhser Walker > im in a pod [ 2006.05.14 18:46:38 ] xHjfx > Im not warping to a POS :P [ 2006.05.14 18:46:47 ] Cruhser Walker > °hh [ 2006.05.14 18:47:25 ] Cruhser Walker > **** it.. one of my members is online [ 2006.05.14 18:47:34 ] xHjfx > Standings set Clearly trying to lure people into a trap.. :) If posting this isnt permissible ill remove :)
Lemming VonPodden	Posted - 2006.05.16 14:08:00 - [47] Lol how did you afford a pos anyway, last i heard Fan cleaned yall out and bought a carrier and the corp fell apart. Well at least you have moved up from placing cans outside noob corps and "ganking" them when they loot it.
Slynk	Posted - 2006.05.16 14:09:00 - [48] Stupid alt Originally by: Wrangler Go and do something about it then.
Arcticblue2	Posted - 2006.05.16 15:16:00 - [49] Have seen Empire Mafia use the same tactics in Uphallant at their pos there. Well atleast one of their members kept the entire evening to creating cynosural fields inside the pos... wich btw got 6 med. hybridguns, 1 warpscrambler and 1 webber.. plus some shield hardners. Ofcourse .. me flying in there just scouting out in my covert ops don't think anyone have fallen for that in uphallant ... yet. ---------------------------------------------- "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things." 1 cor.
ragewind	Posted - 2006.05.18 18:01:00 - [50] Originally by: Lemming VonPodden Lol how did you afford a pos anyway, last i heard Fan cleaned yall out and bought a carrier and the corp fell apart. Well at least you have moved up from placing cans outside noob corps and "ganking" them when they loot it. that will be the few mill of BPOs that he stole in that was locked in FA space one can only guess that fan gave him sares to do this deliberatly ------------------------------------ fix eves industrial sector! advanced industrial ship
Rocket Revenger	Posted - 2006.05.18 18:42:00 - [51] Originally by: HippoKing thriving off other player's stupidity is not an exploit: its what a lot of eve is about It's not a game exploit, but you just described exploiting a person so it technically is "an exploit"
Feyt	Posted - 2006.05.19 08:02:00 - [52] Exploiting someones stupidity is not an exploit in the "you bad bad man" sense, instead its social engineering and comes under the same family as market scams. Yes its sneaky, yes its low and yes its someone ingenious/clever. Suck it up lads.... they may not be nice by doing itr but they are within their rights.

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