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Backdoor Bandit
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Posted - 2006.05.15 10:51:00 -
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Guide to balancing ships (RMR)
Greetings all,
As you know, the MGRL have fought the good fight for a while now, much fun has been had, with plenty of exciting action. But I feel that it is time to give something back. The experience we have gained has been hard won from some of EVEÆs Premier fighting corporations and alliances. In this thread I hope to bring to you my findings on EVE combat, ships (RMR) and weapons in an effort to balance the game and bring justice and Harmony to the Galaxy.
So without further ado, I present Backdoor Bandits guide for balancing combat in EVE.
Minmatar: Everyone knows that my brother Minmatar fly the most overpowered ships in the game, Fast, Hard hitting, Pleasing to the eye, easy to fly with low skill points, made specifically to spit in the Amarr eye, I therefore propose an across the board 10% Speed reduction to all Minny ships.
Tempest: The tempest is the king of fleet warfare, Alpha-strike damage rules all in fleet combat as one volley is usually all you manage to get off on your primary targets, I have seen a tempy strike for over THREE HUNDRED per strike, this is the very definition of INSANITY. I therefore propose a slot change on the tempest. Make it a 4/4 Turret/Launcher split. And drop the CPU by about 100 too, that should do the trick.
Vagabond: This ship is built to go fast! LetÆs make it faster. Drop the damage bonus and have an inbuilt bonus to nanofibers and overdrives, maybe reduce the grid needed to fit these mods.
Rupture: Sounds painful, doesnÆt it? Best leave this one alone.
Wolf: This ship, (And indeed most Minny tech 2 ships) has what a friend of mine refers to as æS**k my d**k, Amarr B*tchesÆ resists. This is obviously unbalanced I once heard of a Wolf beating a Retribution in a one v one battle. The Retribution is king of the frigate word as Ne fule kno I therefore propose the EM resists on armour be dropped to 20%
Reaper: I once lost a 1v1 with my reaper vs a BoB light drone. Now I know from personal experience how uber BoB are, but losing to a t1 warrior? The Reaper should be feared, b*llocks to what the Blue Oyster Cult say. 200% damage bonus should sort this out.
General Minmatar stuff:
Clip size is too big, 10% reduction should cure this. 10% Speed reduction as discussed earlier.
Caldari:
The most chosen race for EVE players, This is down to one of two reasons, people find change disturbing, and therefore pick the race which is easiest to make an avatar that resembles Ben Affleck. Or people pick Caldari because everyone loves a n00b missile spam/ECM coward ship that doesnÆt need any out of game skills to fly. IÆll let you decide which it is.
The Raven: Crazy crazy slot layouts. This ship should be a shield tanker, but everyone likes to hide behind a full rack of multispecs these days, but an armour tank is out of the question too, because a full rack of warp core stabilizers is demanded by the Caldari manual. I therefore propose a MWD bonus (for getting into torp/cruise range quicker) and a halving of the drone bay. (This will make up for the ability to pick and choose your T2 missile type without bothering to train up the earlier stages)
The Scorpion: Bloody EW weasels, nobody likes a Jammer. Except Bob Marley he loves Jammin.
The Blackbird: See above. (I think the Wailers like Jammin too)
The Crow: This is a nice ship isnÆt it, one thing could improve it though, the rockets arenÆt really very 4th of July. I propose that each rocket has a random colour effect, and maybe every one in five will spiral off in a crazy direction and scare the hell out of next doorÆs cat.
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Backdoor Bandit
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Posted - 2006.05.15 10:52:00 -
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Edited by: Backdoor Bandit on 15/05/2006 10:58:36 The Gallente:
These ships are probably all fine, if the Gallente have a problem, they can blockade the Channel Tunnel, ban religious outfits in schools or set fire to their country. IÆm not bothered TBH. I have picked out one or two things from various whiny threads though.
Blasters: Something about them tracking too well. Or having too much range. CanÆt quite remember. Better nerf both I suppose.
Megathrons: They are too good at LVL4 missions IIRC. Better make lvl4s much harder. How about insta-aggressing spawns. And multiple scrambling frigates that can sustain a MWD forever without a sig radius boost.
Drones: Apparently they like to mate with each other in mid air rather then do the job they were deployed for. I canÆt see how anyone could possibly have a problem with this.
The Amarr: You know what they say; one manÆs gentle man of God is another mans door to door stalking copy of the Watchtower salesman. All of EVE secretly adore the Amarr. So letÆs do our bit to make them feel special.
Armageddon: Give it a Damage bonus as well as rate of fire. And double the drone bay. And give it a 4th mid slot. And give it 200 more CPU. And 2000 more Grid.
Apocalypse: 90% Reduction in Large armour rep energy need bonus sounds good. And maybe a 50% bonus to Tachyon range. And Kinetic/Explosive crystals should do the trick.
Maller: Damage Bonus
Omen: Damage Bonus.
Zealot: 3 inbuilt Heatsinks and a 50% bonus to med turret tracking sound good. And immunity to Tracking Disruptors would be nice.
Sacrilege: DoesnÆt really matter what you do with it, It's the only ship in the history of the game that got worse after a boost and nobody will fly it, So donÆt be tempted when you see 15 on the market for 100 million a pop.
Retribution: take away the fifth highslot which has never been filled in the history of the game, and make it a midslot.
Crusader: 3rd midslot 4tw.
This completes my guide to balancing ships in EVE. I hope the Dev team take notice; IÆm looking at you, Tuxford.
Keep a beady eye out for BBs guide to Capital Ship Warfare. Coming soon. (Maybe)
Note: You might notice a dropoff in quality in the mid to late section of this guide. Sorry about that, It (probably) wonÆt happen again. -------------
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Jon Hawkes
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Posted - 2006.05.15 10:58:00 -
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Brute Helmet
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Posted - 2006.05.15 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Backdoor Bandit
Rupture: Sounds painful, doesnÆt it? Best leave this one alone.
Good choice. _____________________________
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.15 11:05:00 -
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hahahahaha
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Jon Hawkes
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Posted - 2006.05.15 11:06:00 -
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I think you should have included a little section on Gallente ships being massively overpowered in the departments of hairbrushes, mirrors and soft furnishings. This is a huge imbalance by CCP, especially as Minmatar ships only get given bonuses to their Fedo capacity!
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jukriamrr
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Posted - 2006.05.15 11:16:00 -
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wewy nice!
the pearl:
"Drop the damage bonus and have an inbuilt bonus to nanofibers and overdrives, maybe reduce the grid needed to fit these mods."
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.05.15 11:19:00 -
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I know who BB is now.
WTS BB's secret identity.
Fear the Ibis of doom! |
Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.15 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Boonaki I know who BB is now.
WTS BB's secret identity.
I've known who he is for over half a year. Somehow I doubt you do ;)
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Brute Helmet
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Posted - 2006.05.15 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Boonaki I know who BB is now.
WTS BB's secret identity.
You mean you didnt know that BB's alt is Gronsak ? _____________________________
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.15 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Backdoor Bandit Rupture: Sounds painful, doesnÆt it? Best leave this one alone.
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.05.15 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Brute Helmet
Originally by: Boonaki I know who BB is now.
WTS BB's secret identity.
You mean you didnt know that BB's alt is Gronsak ?
lies -------------------Sig-----------------------
Boost the raven, i dont know how since its got great volley damage, massive range, any damage type, overpowered tank BUT BOOOOOOOSTTTT them raveneeeeen |
Wrayeth
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Posted - 2006.05.15 11:33:00 -
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-Wrayeth
"Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
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Lysunder
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Posted - 2006.05.15 11:38:00 -
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A fair number of very valid points there BB, allthough there is one tweak for the minnie ships, the rupture most of all, you didnt mention:
Harder armour on the back of the ship to stop attacks from the rear (gotta give them some chance ffs).
lys
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DoctorColossal Pervius
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Posted - 2006.05.15 11:43:00 -
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I can't wait for the guide to Capital Ship balancing!
Excellent post.
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Justice Bringer
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Posted - 2006.05.15 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Backdoor Bandit
Rupture: Sounds painful, doesnÆt it? Best leave this one alone.
Hahahahhaha
It's a good thing they don't have a ship named 'Spleen' cos that would leave us all in stitches...
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Crumplecorn
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Posted - 2006.05.15 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Backdoor Bandit Caldari:
The most chosen race for EVE players, This is down to one of two reasons, people find change disturbing, and therefore pick the race which is easiest to make an avatar that resembles Ben Affleck. Or people pick Caldari because everyone loves a n00b missile spam/ECM coward ship that doesnÆt need any out of game skills to fly. IÆll let you decide which it is.
I think I speak for the entire Gallente Federation when I say ---------- Sorry but that link contains nawty language. -wystler "Discussing moderation is not allowed" - Ivan K "Ranting is prohibited" - Teblin
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smallgreenblur
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Posted - 2006.05.15 20:41:00 -
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Edited by: smallgreenblur on 15/05/2006 20:41:58
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Boonaki I know who BB is now.
WTS BB's secret identity.
I've known who he is for over half a year. Somehow I doubt you do ;)
I went drinking with him in London a few weeks ago, as did many of you :)
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Backdoor Bandit Caldari:
The most chosen race for EVE players, This is down to one of two reasons, people find change disturbing, and therefore pick the race which is easiest to make an avatar that resembles Ben Affleck. Or people pick Caldari because everyone loves a n00b missile spam/ECM coward ship that doesnÆt need any out of game skills to fly. IÆll let you decide which it is.
I think I speak for the entire Gallente Federation when I say
I think you speak for the rest of eve tbh
sgb
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Aramendel
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Posted - 2006.05.16 14:11:00 -
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I approve of this post even though it was made by a certain minmatar scum which is just bitter from being rejected as the emperors love slave. |
Dragy
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Posted - 2006.05.16 14:15:00 -
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Edited by: Dragy on 16/05/2006 14:16:18 nvm ;)
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Dragy
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Posted - 2006.05.16 14:16:00 -
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nvm
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Exavier Macbeth
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Posted - 2006.05.16 14:21:00 -
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I was at work on a phone call when i read this... had to mute the customer for 5min before I could breath again.
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Frools
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Posted - 2006.05.16 14:39:00 -
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by far the greatest thread ever.
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Omatje
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Posted - 2006.05.16 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: Omatje on 16/05/2006 14:47:35
Haha, class post!.
Sig removed, please keep it below 24000 bytes etc.. - Xorus In the rerun...
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