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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.05.15 16:55:00 -
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We all know the propoganda. BoB were expecting to be invaded this weekend in Delve and decided to forcibly clear out all POS in Querious (which I happened to own). They stopped after destroying two and putting three in reinforced mode but only because ISS diplomats got involved. They didn't once think just to ask me to remove the POS, instead they wasted 75mil on a siege to take them out, which proved only to delay their removal due to reinforced mode and having to wait for shields to recharge above 50% so I could unanchor things.
They agreed to let me get the rest dismantled and made it absolutely crystal clear that they'd be camping the pipe to destroy me and collect the loot as I tried to haul it out. A complete joke, I now have to pay 75mil to reimburse their siege costs. I agreed to and have paid because unlike some corps and alliances which are famous for going back on their word, I keep promises.
Thanks go to Stins and co of the ISSL who, for an extremely reasonable fee, hauled the entire thing out in 99.9% safety using a dreadnought with a jump drive inside the remaining POS shield. The remaining tower, I offlined, unanchored and shipped up the pipe personally last night by regular old hauler. We spent all day yesterday hauling and finally got it done. I just paid Kim Wu the fee they asked for and everything is squared up. We are officially no longer in Querious.
So is BoB's story true? I went back into Querious with a shuttle to pick up my scanning imicus and an old ITV and noticed BoB have a bubble camp in A2. On my travels, I found a BoB POS being erected. So was that story of expecting to be invaded true or was it a cover for the old "we want your stuff" routine, this time with moons? After all, it's much easier to simply steal existing moons than scan for good ones.
Note: I don't represent the ISS, only myself and my corporation.
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Commander Rackham
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:06:00 -
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I don't think you are winning any points with BoB, unreasonable or reasonable request debate aside.
I mean, any agreement notwithstanding you should have just assumed you were there entirely at thier leisure, and assumed the possibility of a loss of those assets as a part of the risk that comes with operating in territory you do not own.
Basically, all I see this post doing is shooting yourself in the foot...no good will come of this, BoB isn't likely to apologize, refund your money & help you get setup again. The standard "I don't represent my corp/alliance" disclaimer isn't going to stop them from at some level associating you with your corp / alliance.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:06:00 -
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Edited by: ParMizaN on 15/05/2006 17:06:02 Hmm, erecting POS in a region not their own doesn't seem like a defensive maneuver now does it..
edit: fixed typo
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Alberta
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:09:00 -
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I have no clue what you expect to achieve with a post like this. 
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:10:00 -
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If i could find a "Buhu RLY" owl, I would have posted it in this thread. ....
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Rackham I don't think you are winning any points with BoB, unreasonable or reasonable request debate aside.
Why would anyone want to win points with BoB?
Unless you're one of their blobmonkeys they reserve the right to go behind any deal or friendship they make, "because they're BoB".
All they're good for is lying, betraying and blobbing (not nessecarily in that order). --------------------------------------
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN Hmm, erecting POS in a region not their own doesn't seem like a defensive maneuver now does it..
edit: fixed typo
The best defensive strategy is striking your enemy before they can strike you... so yeah... deploying POSes and fleets to shoot down possible enemy convoys before they reach your space is a defensive tactic... which sometimes requires annexing a few neighboring regions..  -----
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:23:00 -
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As a precaution we are turning all space in to 0.0.
Enjoy.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur We all know the propoganda. BoB were expecting to be invaded this weekend in Delve and decided to forcibly clear out all POS in Querious (which I happened to own). They stopped after destroying two and putting three in reinforced mode but only because ISS diplomats got involved. They didn't once think just to ask me to remove the POS, instead they wasted 75mil on a siege to take them out, which proved only to delay their removal due to reinforced mode and having to wait for shields to recharge above 50% so I could unanchor things.
They agreed to let me get the rest dismantled and made it absolutely crystal clear that they'd be camping the pipe to destroy me and collect the loot as I tried to haul it out. A complete joke, I now have to pay 75mil to reimburse their siege costs. I agreed to and have paid because unlike some corps and alliances which are famous for going back on their word, I keep promises.
Thanks go to Stins and co of the ISSL who, for an extremely reasonable fee, hauled the entire thing out in 99.9% safety using a dreadnought with a jump drive inside the remaining POS shield. The remaining tower, I offlined, unanchored and shipped up the pipe personally last night by regular old hauler. We spent all day yesterday hauling and finally got it done. I just paid Kim Wu the fee they asked for and everything is squared up. We are officially no longer in Querious.
So is BoB's story true? I went back into Querious with a shuttle to pick up my scanning imicus and an old ITV and noticed BoB have a bubble camp in A2. On my travels, I found a BoB POS being erected. So was that story of expecting to be invaded true or was it a cover for the old "we want your stuff" routine, this time with moons? After all, it's much easier to simply steal existing moons than scan for good ones.
Note: I don't represent the ISS, only myself and my corporation.
You were in our back yard, you're lucky we were feeling soft and decided to let you get any of your stuff out, now bugger off with your BoB speculation threads before you annoy the hell out of us and we decide to 'borrow' something a bit more permanant of ISS's to shut you up.
Whiner.
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Astasia Orian
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:29:00 -
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Is this for real or just to draw attention? 'Cover story' so your moons could be taken? Disappointing.
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:30:00 -
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Need a new sig :/
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Avernus
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:33:00 -
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Does this mean I don't get my cut anymore???
j/k 
Ex-JCoS, Ex-Diplomat, Ex-Councilor, Ex-CEO (posts no longer represent Firmus Ixion) |

Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Rackham I don't think you are winning any points with BoB, unreasonable or reasonable request debate aside.
I no longer live anywhere near them. The ISS don't operate in their space nor have any dealings with them (BoB's choice, not ours). If I'm shooting anyone in the foot, it's not myself. I had a deal to get out of querious and I fulfilled that to the best of my abilities. I would personally be interested to know if BoB are taking over Querious for themselves and erecting POS because if it's true, it means they were dishonest about their intent on clearing out the region. I don't much care what their answer is, nor would I have objected if they had simply contacted me and said "Right, get out of Querious, we want your moons".
My original post can be summed up in three lines: I moved out of Querious. BoB are setting up POS in querious. Any idea why?
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:40:00 -
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so that's what you were doing in the A2 pipe last night :)
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Bedrock
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:41:00 -
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FIX is probably next? Who knows, who cares. No entity needs to answer to your boo-hoo whining. ------------------
Frustrated: 
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul so that's what you were doing in the A2 pipe last night :)
Heh, yeah. I saw you come through and forgot to wave.
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:41:00 -
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Edited by: Righteous Fury on 15/05/2006 17:42:42 "omg, why didnt they just ask me to remove it", now you're crying here. ISS goes where its allowed, not where it wants.
Get a clue and stop whining. You just make the rest of ISS look bad.
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:44:00 -
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I really do love it when people start threads and then can't take the heat from the replies. It truly is pathetic.
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:45:00 -
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When you say in Querious, you don't mean in central Querious, you mean on the edge of Delve, 6 jumps from BoB systems. Why would you put your POSes there without permission? Why would BoB allow neutral POSes so close to BoB's space? You are lucky that you got a deal to move them out without loosing them. You are lucky that by your actions, your allince is not considered committing a hostile act that leads to all out war. Wars were started for much less then that and this post sure does not help. 
The truth will set you free
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Mookee
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:52:00 -
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Oo someone ****ed off BoB or is this all a ploy by BOB to make people believe ISS isn't there alts?  |
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shivan
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude When you say in Querious, you don't mean in central Querious, you mean on the edge of Delve, 6 jumps from BoB systems. Why would you put your POSes there without permission? Why would BoB allow neutral POSes so close to BoB's space? You are lucky that you got a deal to move them out without loosing them. You are lucky that by your actions, your allince is not considered committing a hostile act that leads to all out war. Wars were started for much less then that and this post sure does not help. 
Simple question, could you explain to me how it is an at of war setting up a POS in unclaimed space?
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:53:00 -
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I think BoB should invade ISS because of Nyphurs blatant hostility in actually paying back the isk demanded of him.
Need a new sig :/
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Teblin
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Posted - 2006.05.15 18:02:00 -
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Lock requested by original poster and original post lacks content. Click
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