Basically, people in this thread are being called out for not supporting this endevour due to the names the people and sites have made for them. They're then being treat with disdain because they have aired that opinion...

Yes, and I think what we are both saying in response is;

That's what they do ingame, but this is basically a charity appeal. Should two sides in a sport not come togethter for their community?



No one is being called out, the finger pointing is going in one direction, and I think its been pretty civil around here.
I caught myself on earlier, but then realised that this is not a thread to debate the moral inequities of the human condition :)

So, like vote for this guy, or dont. Happy Rabbitegg Day.

I appreciate your reply, and you are very polite, so I apologise if I have seemed rude. I do find the point that we share a similar view but from wildly different starting points to be fascinating.

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I think its confused in both directions. I think that a lot of people see the universe differently, and there are those who dont even believe that EvE is a roleplaying game at all.
I would like to discuss all this with you more, but I feel I have derailed far too much already. Sorry, everyone.

Tomorrow I'm going to spill carebear blood in Eve in Avalloc's name. I was going to explode them anyway to be honest, but now *reasons*.

Malcolm, just like everyone else, I respect your opinion (and also found some of the comments at mb distasteful, but that's par for the course unfortunately).

At the end of the day however, the important thing is that as many people are motivated to vote as possible, because helping Avalloc gain more mobility is an outcome that everyone in the community, no matter whether they vote or not, could probably applaud if it happens.

I'm all for personal choice and personal responsibility in game - for all players. However, I hope your post above isn't read as a challenge or attack by others and the thread runs off topic.

It would be great if we can keep this focused on helping Avalloc and not turn it into a thread that descends into something else.

You're right. My bad.

Playing the same game as I do does not make him any more qualified than any of the other contestants to get a vote from me. None of the contestants are any more qualified than the others to get my vote, so why should I pick him over all the others? Because Goonswarm likes him? Unfortunately for him, I don't like Goonswarm.

If Avalloc wins a van he has promised to get the custom license plate GOATSE.

Before Doc arrives and furiously points his finger at OOPE, I'm going to post this here first, in the hope that a few people read it and decide to vote before it's moved to die an unread death out of GD.

While you may sit on any side of the fence in relation to in game issues, please take a couple of minutes to read the linked blog post and help a fellow player out with just a few minutes of your time:

http://www.minerbumping.com/2014/04/vote-avalloc.html

The whole CSM is a bigg joke it dos only favor the biggest alliaces, and the voting system they have been jusing to put forward things to ccp utterly flaved,newer going to suport delegats that dont respect democratic voting system.or CSM before this is changed so no 1 gets a vote from me

The whole CSM is a bigg joke it dos only favor the biggest alliaces, and the voting system they have been jusing to put forward things to ccp utterly flaved,newer going to suport delegats that dont respect democratic voting system.or CSM before this is changed so no 1 gets a vote from me

The whole CSM is a bigg joke it dos only favor the biggest alliaces, and the voting system they have been jusing to put forward things to ccp utterly flaved,newer going to suport delegats that dont respect democratic voting system.or CSM before this is changed so no 1 gets a vote from me

The whole CSM is a bigg joke i...

While I strongly +1 this initiative for fellow capsuleer in need I find it slightly shameful that people with such diseases are pushed toward popularity contest for something like that van. Geezus, it is a van with a wheelchair ramp/lift not a frakking spaceship, how much it would take out of "really important matters" budget to just provide one of them to everybody who needs it? Yeah, I know...

Wow. Miss Furry, you are a despicable human being. Not in game, in real life.

I went and voted for the guy, got 2 votes for answering a quiz question correctly. Hope he gets his ride and is able to have a little more mobility.

Vote for him, don't vote for him. If he loses it'll go to someone else who needs it probably just as much. But if you choose not to vote for him and come to this thread to tell everyone then it's pretty obvious you're doing it to be a vindictive shithead.

True...however - I see it as a situation where I can't do much for all those other people, but I now have an opportunity to give this guy a hand (and it's pretty easy...*type 4 registration fields one time -*click*...done). If I could, I'd get all those other people one, but for now I'll have to settle for doing a small thing for just one of them. Whatever one's opinion of the guy's online associations and/or choices of contribution is irrelevant. This is a RL issue and if one advocates for folks not to separate their game personas and actions from their RL person and actions, then it seems to me that one might be keen not to allow someone's ingame persona/actions/affiliations to prevent one from helping that person out IRL. As for the minerbumping.con thing - this issue has nothing to do with that site. That place was merely one vehicle of many used to spread the information.

You'd really not help someone out because "grr, goons"?

I don't even think PL would be on your side.

I've already explained my perspective, which has nothing to do with the reputation of minerbumping or Goonswarm or anyone else's reputation. Although, quite frankly, if my opinion of Goonswarm and their idiotic leadership had any weight in my decision not to, there would be a long list of reasons posted as to why there is no credibility behind their words when they claim someone is a "good guy". (do I even need to mention The Wiz?)

Guilt by association? Something Mittens did while wasted off his ass at Fanfest two ******* years ago, which was blown out of proportion by finger-wagging, pearl-clutching moral police like you somehow reflects on a group of over 10,000 members?

Newsflash: most of us are in Goonswarm because we like playing video games with other goons. Same reason people are in Dreddit because they like playing games with other Redditors. I took a directorate position because I wanted to help other goons enjoy this silly game, not because I wanted to kiss Mittens' ass.

If you're not voting because you dislike the idea of picking one stranger out of many in need of something that will improve their quality of life, that's your prerogative and nobody should blame you for that. But that obviously isn't the case and you're making an ass of yourself by posting vitriolic grrgoons garbage about a dude who had nothing to do with any of the crap that different people with an alliance tag did at some point.

tl;dr: we get it, you hate goons, now fly away