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Mik Nostrebor
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Posted - 2006.05.16 00:51:00 -
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Will I sell you a fully built raven for 7 mill ISK?
YES I WILL!
"What's the catch?", you ask.
Well, I have a number of high ME BPC's of Ravens and to turn them into BS's for you I need you to supply the materials. Because these are high quality copies and our corp has a highly trained manufacturer the resulting material list is very light.
So the deal is, you supply the materials (only) and I supply you a fully built Raven BS and make a huge saving. The cost of a Raven is normally around 100mill on the market but you can save bigtime by building it this way, especially if you mine some of the minerals yourself!!!
Eve-mail me for the full material list quote, delivery time estimate and the details on how to get us started on building one for you today.
Mik,
Trader Ordinaire
ORKS
PS we can buy the minerals for you at the local going rate for an extra fee of 500k to cover courier fees.
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Sweriskaka
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Posted - 2006.05.16 00:52:00 -
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50 ME BPC's sell for around 2 million on escrow.
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Mik Nostrebor
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Posted - 2006.05.16 00:59:00 -
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True,
And with or manufacturer's skills and high standing the material costs for us to build it are even lower. Also, I should mention, that she has 100% yield refining available to save them even more money if they mine in the local area (Heimatar Region) and ship to the right station for processing. All good ways to squeeze out those lower prices and save the extra millions of ISK.
:)
Mik
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Mik Nostrebor
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Posted - 2006.05.16 08:34:00 -
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In answer to the many questions in my in box:
The deal is that you give me 7 mill and the required minerals and I give
you a raven. The catch is that it takes a few days for the raven to be
built (one in progress now) and that you must show up and do an
in-hangar trade of the minerals and money for the Raven at a mutually
agreeable time. The place will be at Ammold V.
If you want to supply un-processed ores we can arrange to have them
refined at 100% recovery for you from Isendeldik where we have good
standing and no fees.
So, you need to be able to transport the quantites and also be able
(security status wise) to be able to enter a station in a 1.0 system.
The list of materials is:
ISO 125,038 units
Mega 2,378 units
Mex 500,782 units
Nocx 31,223 units
Pyer 1,999,016 units
Trit 7,994,402 units
Zyd 7,448 units
Local prices for these quantities currently are:
ISO 120-125 ISK per unit
Mega 4630 ISK per unit
Mex 7.39-7.49 ISK per unit
Nocx 390 ISK per unit
Pyer 3.69 ISK per unit
Trit 1.65 ISK per unit
Zyd 4190 ISK per unit
Right, add that up with the 7 mill we charge on top (free BPC thrown
in) and it comes to about 100mill right...no saving BUT if you mine the
ISO, PYER, TRIT and MEX yourself (all minable in empire [safe] space)
you save:
39,947,739 ISK (Almost 40 mill)
If you mine in Isendeldik (.9 system) and get us to process your ore
you can save up to 20% loss in fees and refining too.
Also, if you shop around for better prices than my local system you
can save yourself another few mill on top!
That's the deal.
Mik
..... Where's the kaboom?
There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom! |
Bulletproof Cupid
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Posted - 2006.05.16 12:23:00 -
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 Originally by: Mik Nostrebor
The cost of a Raven is normally around 105mill on the market but you can save bigtime by building it this way, especially if you mine some of the minerals yourself!!!
Hmmm, mining the minerals your self doesnt make it any cheaper, the minerals you mined still have value.
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Greenbolt
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Posted - 2006.05.16 21:14:00 -
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BYOC minerals is still a better deal than buying one outright for newer characters who dont have the best sklls for building ships/etc and who dont mind spending some time mining for a BS.
I bought my tempest this way (from someone else ) and it made it an achievable goal where me coming up with 100M woulda taken much longer and yes I did sell some minerals (isogen) to raise the money to buy the rares.
Oh well BYOC (Bring your own components) is a great way for younger characters to go especially if not in a ship building corp.
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Elohssa Emwolb
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Posted - 2006.05.16 21:34:00 -
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Well, I think the topic should state that this is a BYOM build offer. It's not a raven for 7mil. |
Devestor
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Posted - 2006.05.16 22:06:00 -
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Will contact you ingame. But that will be awhile since im away from home.
Devestor
(Posting Alt)
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2006.05.16 22:09:00 -
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Edited by: Kerushi on 16/05/2006 22:09:57
ME20
Tritanium - 7.613.716
Pyerite- 1.903.825
Mexallon - 476.935
Isogen - 119.083
Nocxium - 29.736
Zydrine - 7.094
Megacyte - 2.265
bpc is 2mil or something
so where do ppl save money?
Quote:
The deal is that you give me 7 mill and the required minerals and I give
you a raven. The catch is that it takes a few days for the raven to be
built (one in progress now) and that you must show up and do an
in-hangar trade of the minerals and money for the Raven at a mutually
agreeable time. The place will be at Ammold V.
huh?
do u trade the raven for the minerals+isk or do u take the minerals+isk and days later give a raven? <- kinda of a trust issue
also ravens take 4-5h to build dependingon skills/pe, so how could it take days as u get the minerals and can queue up?
most it would be an overnight/work waiting period but not longer then 24h with normal login hours(rl **** can happen tho)
nway, gl
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Mik Nostrebor
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Posted - 2006.05.17 10:44:00 -
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Thanks for your comments :)
They can save money in a number of ways.
1. Buy minerals in a cheaper region....Heimatar is the central newbie system of the Minmatar empire and so has some higher prices on minerals as I quoted above. Even so there is saving as below
2. The price of a raven here is 105 mill. Even buying the minerals locally and getting me to manufacture the ship will save over 10 mill
3. The time it takes a new person to make the ship is about 5 days. Here I have a deal where you swap minerals for a pre-made ship. I use the minerals to make the next ship to cut the waiting time.
4. I am offering to refine minerals at 100% recovery for prospective buyers. This saves up to 20% loss to corp fees and mining efficiency losses.
5. Mining minerals costs my clients time not money. Many newer people would be more than happy to save money with a little work.
If a person does all 5 of the above, even only mining in safe space they can save themselves up to half the cash outlay. If they want to buy all the minerals and take the easy way they still save 10% even after my 7 mill fee.
Not a bad deal in that light. If they were to build the ship themselves they would not make the same savings.
Mik
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There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom! |
Psychodelica
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Posted - 2006.05.17 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Mik Nostrebor
Edited by: Mik Nostrebor on 16/05/2006 08:42:05
Local prices for these quantities currently are:
ISO 120-125 ISK per unit
Mega 4630 ISK per unit
Mex 7.39-7.49 ISK per unit
Nocx 390 ISK per unit
Pyer 3.69 ISK per unit
Trit 1.65 ISK per unit
Zyd 4190 ISK per unit
rip off
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Mik Nostrebor
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Posted - 2006.05.17 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Psychodelica
Originally by: Mik Nostrebor
Edited by: Mik Nostrebor on 16/05/2006 08:42:05
Local prices for these quantities currently are:
ISO 120-125 ISK per unit
Mega 4630 ISK per unit
Mex 7.39-7.49 ISK per unit
Nocx 390 ISK per unit
Pyer 3.69 ISK per unit
Trit 1.65 ISK per unit
Zyd 4190 ISK per unit
rip off
Not my mineral prices. Just the ones off the local region market. I agree they are high.
..... Where's the kaboom?
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Mik Nostrebor
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Posted - 2006.05.17 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Devestor
Will contact you ingame. But that will be awhile since im away from home.
Devestor
(Posting Alt)
Thanks Devestor :)
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tnvnu2
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Posted - 2006.05.17 12:41:00 -
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Dont want to be rude nor hi-jack your thread however i dont consider it a very good deal and fail to see how anyone can save that much isk here.
Your BYOM list is very high, i have a ME32 PE20, and my mineral list is a lot lower than yours. Also when you pass a certain level the reduction ant that great.
However your other statment to build a raven 5days ish well i cant say for sure but i know this toon i am typing with has basic building skills and it takes me 4 hours to build a raven. thats hours not days.
7Mill is steep and already pointed out, you can buy a BPC half the price, a good one, and need less minerals and not need loads of skills either.. cook it over night and ready in morning.
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Itamin Deverux
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Posted - 2006.05.17 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Mik Nostrebor
Edited by: Mik Nostrebor on 16/05/2006 08:42:05
In answer to the many questions in my in box:
The deal is that you give me 7 mill and the required minerals and I give
you a raven. The catch is that it takes a few days for the raven to be
built (one in progress now) and that you must show up and do an
in-hangar trade of the minerals and money for the Raven at a mutually
agreeable time. The place will be at Ammold V.
If you want to supply un-processed ores we can arrange to have them
refined at 100% recovery for you from Isendeldik where we have good
standing and no fees.
So, you need to be able to transport the quantites and also be able
(security status wise) to be able to enter a station in a 1.0 system.
The list of materials is:
ISO 125,038 units
Mega 2,378 units
Mex 500,782 units
Nocx 31,223 units
Pyer 1,999,016 units
Trit 7,994,402 units
Zyd 7,448 units
that list of materials aint me 50:
ME24 copy i need:
iso: 118993
mega: 2263
Mex: 476574
Nocx: 29713
Pyer: 1902381
Trit: 7607943
Zyd: 7088
so you're asking for 400 extra zyd each time and an extra 100 mega, 4k a peice for each of them thats quite a bit of extra iskies, build time on a raven not that long a few hours.
no offence but if i was to offer this deal i cant see me asking for 100mil and if i had a ME;50 bpc defo not.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.05.17 14:12:00 -
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Dont discount the hassle of hauling those huge quantities to you.
In anycase, this seems 5-6mill more expensive than buying a bpc and making it yourself
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Brooksy2005
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Posted - 2006.05.17 14:17:00 -
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Edited by: Brooksy2005 on 17/05/2006 14:17:54
QUOTE: WTS - Raven - 7mill - WHAT?!?
You should be advertising this as a BYOM. Not buy a raven for 7mil.
you are not actually selling ravens for 7 mil. if you were i would take 100 of them from you!
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spRAYed
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Posted - 2006.05.17 14:39:00 -
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Let some random guy mine, deliver u the minerals. And never give him a raven. free 100 mill!
Willie needs help, he's blind and cant chew his own fish.
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Mik Nostrebor
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Posted - 2006.05.17 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Dont discount the hassle of hauling those huge quantities to you.
In anycase, this seems 5-6mill more expensive than buying a bpc and making it yourself
Depending on distance I might be able to help haul the materials for you.
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Hattur
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Posted - 2006.05.17 21:46:00 -
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pff ME doesnt matter when you got perfect manufacturing skills :D
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Mik Nostrebor
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Posted - 2006.05.17 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Itamin Deverux
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so you're asking for 400 extra zyd each time and an extra 100 mega, 4k a peice for each of them thats quite a bit of extra iskies, build time on a raven not that long a few hours.
I never said that the BPC's I had were ME50...some other person posted that. Claimed you could get them on escrow for 2.5mill. I have been looking for days and there aren't any ME50 ones available. Only 35 and 40 are the best I can find.
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There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom! |
Mik Nostrebor
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Posted - 2006.05.17 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: spRAYed
Let some random guy mine, deliver u the minerals. And never give him a raven. free 100 mill!
1. I believe that this sort of comment is not an offer to buy.
2. I have stated above that the deal is that we do an in hangar trade - minerals for ship.
Idiot comment like this are against forum rules and are just malicious.
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Benzmann
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Posted - 2006.05.17 21:55:00 -
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Edited by: Benzmann on 17/05/2006 22:04:26
plus there is also a rule that only allows 1 bump per. day
and you have been bumping it 6 times today
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Gabs
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Posted - 2006.05.18 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Mik Nostrebor
Edited by: Mik Nostrebor on 17/05/2006 21:56:22
Edited by: Mik Nostrebor on 16/05/2006 08:43:52
...high ME BPC's of Ravens
...our corp has a highly trained manufacturer the resulting material list is very light.
Originally by: Mik Nostrebor
Edited by: Mik Nostrebor on 16/05/2006 08:42:05
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The list of materials is:
ISO 125,038 units
Mega 2,378 units
Mex 500,782 units
Nocx 31,223 units
Pyer 1,999,016 units
Trit 7,994,402 units
Zyd 7,448 units
Those numbers are actually HIGHER THAN ME1 if you have perfect building skill.
After some math my guess is ME6 and your "highly skilled" builder only have production effiviency level 4.
If you in first post had told the truth about your building skills, print ME etc this thread hadn't turned into this.
7M isk and 5%+ waste from bad print and not perfect skill, this makes the ship 4.5M more expensive than market price (in the forge raven sell for 7M above production cost).
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Mik Nostrebor
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Posted - 2006.05.18 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gabs
Those numbers are actually HIGHER THAN ME1 if you have perfect building skill.
After some math my guess is ME6 and your "highly skilled" builder only have production effiviency level 4.
You maths is bad then. Because the BPC is higher ME than that and and manufacturing character is more skilled than you claim. I don't have all her details to hand at the moment.
Please do not hijack this thread any more, especially with inaccurate information.
Mik
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