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Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1710
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:21:00 -
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With regards to the timing and deployment window of the brave defenders of Shiigeru, The detection and deployment was almost certainly an automated process. My specialty is pattern detection algorithm development, so I feel a little more confident in commenting on this topic than I would normally.
Detection of the window event could have been done in two ways - detection of the Federal message-passing involved in opening the deployment window, or detection of the window opening itself. Likely both of these techniques were used. The former would have been accomplished through interception of communication streams somewhere within the CONCORD jamming network - likely at the jamming hardware itself, distributed throughout the system. These likely used a randomized staggered-sawtooth polling pattern such as is seen in SCSS router controllers.
The latter would use cloaked sensing stations throughout Federal space, in the target system and in systems from which ships would be suspected of deployment. These would use a similar polling pattern to test cyno viability through microsingularity formation. Given the nature of the task, I suspect that these would be manned operations with strict no-capture orders. Once detected by either process, the cyno signal would be passed back to waiting deployables through a secured fluid router network, which would automatically trigger the jump. No doubt the Federal attackers started jumping as soon as the cynosural fields dropped below the jamming threshold, and the jammers were immediately reactivated as soon as the clock ticked over the reflex period.
Reasons for assuming a computer-controlled deployment are numerous. The largest of these is the very small window. The Federal attackers had the luxury of choosing the window size, and no doubt chose one as small as possible to prevent a large Caldari response. Given that they did not have the lag from state detection or message passing, they had a much larger opening and could pass jump orders to a larger group. To ensure as large a defensive deployment as possible, the Caldari needed to reduce that lag as much as possible. Adding the human decision system in would have reduced the window to the point where the entire thing could have easily been missed.
Notably, the crews of the Federal ships would be prepared for the assault and could more easily maintain a state of readiness for the engagement. The Caldari had no knowledge of the deployment and had to maintain readiness for a much longer period. No doubt there were several squadrons ready to jump, each staggering high and low alertness. The requirement for a prolonged state of high readiness is exhausting for commanders and would have almost certainly resulted in a missed or deficient window.
Relying on human systems in time-critical situations is an investment in disaster. Better to put your stock into good detection algorithms and worry about preparation instead.
((This statement is officially endorsed by Lai Dai Research Biomedical and Cybernetic)) |
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1710
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:22:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:The only card games I remember were the ones that assigned me to extra posts and patrols in the cadet barracks.
I'm a lousy card player.
You and me both! I swear, they only invite me for the money I put on the table. Can't really blame them, though. |
Anslo
Scope Works
4890
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:32:00 -
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Scherezad wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:The only card games I remember were the ones that assigned me to extra posts and patrols in the cadet barracks.
I'm a lousy card player. You and me both! I swear, they only invite me for the money I put on the table. Can't really blame them, though.
Metaphorical card games, I'm OK at.
Actual card games? I look at what I'm dealt and go "what."
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6198
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:47:00 -
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Clearly, we need to have a card game night.
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs. |
Anslo
Scope Works
4890
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:48:00 -
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Screw that, I'm not letting you Caldari number cruncher types take my isk.
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Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
86
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:21:00 -
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*tilts her head with an enigmatic smile* Oh, I'd be interested in a card name night. See you there Anslo? |
Anslo
Scope Works
4891
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:54:00 -
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Did you miss the part where we all suck at cards?
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Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
86
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:56:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Did you miss the part where we all suck at cards?
Absolutely not! Oh well, another time. |
Foley Aberas Jones
Huogikku Corporation
55
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Posted - 2014.04.22 18:58:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Did you miss the part where we all suck at cards?
Heres a tip
If the guy has a pocket ace pair, then majority of the river is aces then you have all the rights to pull out a gun and blow that **** away
Well that only follows for poker.... |
Pieter Tuulinen
Verdant Inquiries
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
3518
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:50:00 -
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Foley Aberas Jones wrote:Anslo wrote:Did you miss the part where we all suck at cards? Heres a tip If the guy has a pocket ace pair, then majority of the river is aces then you have all the rights to pull out a gun and blow that **** away Well that only follows for poker....
See, the words at the beginning and end made sense, but after that it all sort of blends into a mumble... I'm really not good at this.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..." |
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6198
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:07:00 -
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Five aces, Tuulinen. Now, mind, many casinos will attempt to combat card counting by mingling multiple decks-- and I'm still not sure why standard decks are that size, anyway. It's a very odd tradition. Still, it works out; four empires, four suits for ship identification...?
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs. |
Anslo
Scope Works
4891
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:08:00 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:To play poker, you must first understand and recreate the universe
All I got from that.
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6198
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:17:00 -
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Oh, uh. Pardon. Card games. You know how it is. Any excuse to compete and share brandy.
The ship identification thing-- so. I'm going to have one of my assistants locate them. It was a kitschy tool used during my SWA days to help us identify ships. You'd use cards with the silhouettes of potential opponents, their names, their weaknesses and strengths, to improve memorization.
Sort of like these, but with names and technical specifications.
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs. |
Anslo
Scope Works
4893
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:20:00 -
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Wait you actually trying to organize this?
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Pieter Tuulinen
Verdant Inquiries
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
3519
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Posted - 2014.04.22 22:32:00 -
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Well... I have some money I can afford to lose, I guess...
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..." |
Anslo
Scope Works
4893
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Posted - 2014.04.22 23:06:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Well... I have some money I can afford to lose, I guess...
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF I'M A POOR PLEB.
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Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
556
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Posted - 2014.04.23 01:18:00 -
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Only good card game is Solitaire.
-Eran |
Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
4556
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Posted - 2014.04.23 08:19:00 -
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That doesn't surprise me, Eran. I always figured you for a guy who handles his deck alone.
Mane 614
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Aracturus
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
162
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Posted - 2014.04.23 11:34:00 -
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The best part about this thread is that the first people to jump down OP's throats were ~Gallente~. Beyond that, I'm just giggling.
This is now a WIDOT thread! |
Aracturus
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
162
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Posted - 2014.04.23 11:45:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Well... I have some money I can afford to lose, I guess... SPEAK FOR YOURSELF I'M A POOR PLEB.
Excuse me while I scrooge Mcduck in my giant piles of moongoo. *he sips from a teacup made from Promethium*
This is now a WIDOT thread! |
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Aelisha
Achura-Waschi Exchange
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
386
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Posted - 2014.04.23 12:16:00 -
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Aracturus wrote:The best part about this thread is that the first people to jump down OP's throats were ~Gallente~. Beyond that, I'm just giggling.
Race and ancestry are poor reasons to discard logic and reason. Also, you'll find that I am Intaki. I can, however, agree with the latter sentence in your post.
Also:
"Promethium, originally prometheum, is a chemical element with the symbol Pm and atomic number 61. All of its isotopes are radioactive"
Good thing you'll be able to afford replacement clones in bulk, hmm?
CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange: An International trade corporation that adheres to State values.
Intaki Reborn.
Independent Capsuleer. |
Anslo
Scope Works
4894
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Posted - 2014.04.23 12:18:00 -
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Aracturus wrote:Anslo wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Well... I have some money I can afford to lose, I guess... SPEAK FOR YOURSELF I'M A POOR PLEB. Excuse me while I scrooge Mcduck in my giant piles of moongoo. *he sips from a teacup made from Promethium*
At least I have two eyes.
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Utsukushi Shi
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
Imperial Outlaws.
21
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Posted - 2014.04.23 13:09:00 -
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Playing strip poker with Pieter at the Pyre barracks was always a guaranteed good time. I'm fairly sure he was only there on Desi's orders though....
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Zenariae
89
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Posted - 2014.04.23 13:12:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Aracturus wrote:Anslo wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Well... I have some money I can afford to lose, I guess... SPEAK FOR YOURSELF I'M A POOR PLEB. Excuse me while I scrooge Mcduck in my giant piles of moongoo. *he sips from a teacup made from Promethium* At least I have two eyes.
And a big mouth. |
Aracturus
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
165
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Posted - 2014.04.23 13:27:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Aracturus wrote:Anslo wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Well... I have some money I can afford to lose, I guess... SPEAK FOR YOURSELF I'M A POOR PLEB. Excuse me while I scrooge Mcduck in my giant piles of moongoo. *he sips from a teacup made from Promethium* At least I have two eyes.
Don't hate because you can't afford to live fast and die young.
This is now a WIDOT thread! |
Anslo
Scope Works
4894
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Posted - 2014.04.23 13:39:00 -
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Aracturus wrote:Anslo wrote:Aracturus wrote:Anslo wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Well... I have some money I can afford to lose, I guess... SPEAK FOR YOURSELF I'M A POOR PLEB. Excuse me while I scrooge Mcduck in my giant piles of moongoo. *he sips from a teacup made from Promethium* At least I have two eyes. Don't hate because you can't afford to live fast and die young.
I'm a capsuleer, dying young is irrelevant.
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Aracturus
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
166
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Posted - 2014.04.23 13:47:00 -
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Anslo wrote:
I'm a capsuleer, dying young is irrelevant.
Don't hate because you can't afford to buy ships you can't even ~fly~ just because they look pretty, then!
Also, this is the perfect zero content thread to hijack C/D?
This is now a WIDOT thread! |
Anslo
Scope Works
4894
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Posted - 2014.04.23 13:48:00 -
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Aracturus wrote:Anslo wrote:
I'm a capsuleer, dying young is irrelevant.
Don't hate because you can't afford to buy ships you can't even ~fly~ just because they look pretty, then! Also, this is the perfect zero content thread to hijack C/D?
C
And what do you mean can't fly? There's few things I can't fly.
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Aracturus
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
166
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Posted - 2014.04.23 13:57:00 -
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Marauders man. All this time and yet I have not trained for them.
This is now a WIDOT thread! |
Anslo
Scope Works
4894
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Posted - 2014.04.23 14:05:00 -
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Aracturus wrote:Marauders man. All this time and yet I have not trained for them.
Oh that YOU can't fly...never mi-wait all this time and you can't fly them? Wow, you're a horrible pilot.
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