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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:12:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Who know how many subs will be lost this weekend.
none of value, hopefully Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10488
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:20:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Really, really looking forward to putting the Goons to work making me ISK.
If they have fun doing it, even better.
the goons that care about making isk will be making a lot more than you, so yeah Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10488
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:22:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Someone has had the clever idea of selling "Jita Permits" in the style of New Order. No idea if they are real or a scam.
[06:40:44] ###### > Buy your BurnJita safety passes here. Only buy from official Goonwaffe members, we are the only ones with valid codes that our SR API will recognize. Convo for details. Stay safe this Burn Jita! Limited number available.
they're real, get em while they're hot Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.24 02:12:00 -
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Mistah Ewedynao wrote:LOL all I see is less and less people playing. How's the Goonification of eve working so far. 
More room for the rest of us Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.24 10:05:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Do you remember thread "Let me to Jita"? When it was last time you have seen one? I haven't seen Jita closed for like 2-3 months already. Another sign: forums. GD is almost dead lately. Warfare&Tactics has like 1-2 active threads.... Other forums not much different...
Some say this is normal and people just went to vacations. It can be. But overall activity is very low currently.
Because you and so many other players don't understand that this game's activity is cyclical and has always been highest after content releases, and that the current PCU record was set just a year ago and, surprise surprise, shortly after Burn Jita 2 Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10502
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Posted - 2014.04.24 13:44:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Well it is a surprise to see anyone connect Bore Jita to the highest CPU.
Hmm, let me think of an alternative explanation....
Oh, I have one, the 10th anniversary of Eve Online.
"guys burn jita is bad for the game look how many people will stop logging in and unsub"
"uh the game had a concurrent login record less than a week after the last burn jita"
"BUT THE ANNIVERSARY" Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.24 17:04:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Hey Andski, if you want to think Bore Jita is the reason for the player record peak, and not the 10th anniversary when the whole, 'lets get as many folk online for the 10th anniversary' was heavily promoted on the forums, you do that.
It is just so sweet and adorable of you.
Hey Josef Djugashvili, maybe you don't realize that my post was in response to people saying that player counts are dropping because of events like Burn Jita, even though the current PCU record was set after many, many such events, indicating that such events are not unhealthy for the game
But please continue to totally misconstrue my point Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.25 06:21:00 -
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Xen Solarus wrote:But, paradoxically, i also think that events like burn Jita harm the game as a whole. Ultimately serving the narrow, selfish interests of those that would force PvP onto those that have no interest in it. They don't even care if these players unsub, such is their disregard for the future of EvE.
it's fantastic for the game, a handful of entitled wretches will realize that this game isn't for them and are replaced by a larger number of people who come in with a good idea about what this game is about Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.25 12:13:00 -
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Xen Solarus wrote:Ah there's that narrow, self-interest i was talking about! Why have people playing in the sandbox differently huh? Much better for the sandbox to conform to your interests, right? They are, afterall, playing the game wrong! Much better for them to all unsub!
Yes, it really is better for those who expect to be immune to PvP to simply unsub and find another MMO.
Xen Solarus wrote:EvE is a great game for exactly the reason it caters to all play styles. From the most hardened super-active PvP Pirate scumbag, right down to the afk mining stay-at-home parent. The highsec hater crowd likes to make out that their actions are for the good of the game, but they couldn't care less about the continued growth and development of EvE, just as long as they get their easy mode. Why bother with actual PvP when you've got all those tasty defenceless targets in highsec that won't shoot back?
We care about the continued growth and development of the game because we wouldn't be able to play it if it dies off. Events like Burn Jita are important because the players' ability to put a system under siege - even if it is an NPC-owned system - is a testament to the fact that it is a sandbox. We care about the continued growth and development of the game as long as it stays a sandbox and doesn't become the casual PvE themepark surrounded by a PvP sandbox that the "afk mining stay-at-home parents" want. Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.25 12:16:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:That's all you ever look like.
I know you are still angry and upset Erotica1 was banned, but you really should finally get over it.
I get that you want to gloat about it like it's your victory or something, but nobody cares (and you had nothing to do with it anyway) Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.25 19:32:00 -
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When I hear the word playstyle, I reach for my gun Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.26 13:46:00 -
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Xen Solarus wrote:Doesn't change the fact that ganking is nothing but zero-risk, maximum reward EvE on easy-mode. But hey, not everyone plays computer games for the challenge.
The only ones who view it this way have never actually done any suicide ganking. There is plenty of risk in for-profit suicide ganking: you can fail a gank and not get anything, you can successfully gank a target and the valuable loot is evaporated by the 50% drop chance, you can successfully gank a target and get a desirable drop but have your hauler blown up when it goes suspect for looting the wreck, the wreck can be ninja-looted, etc etc
But I guess you'll handwave all of those things or ignore them and say "WELL THAT DOESN'T MAKE SUICIDE GANKING RISK FREE" Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10545
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Posted - 2014.04.26 14:05:00 -
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It's literally the riskiest profession in the game when you think about it: success depends on a random number generator, you can fail simply because somebody with ECM or damps was nearby, getting ISK out of it requires you to haul that valuable loot and risk getting suicide ganked yourself, etc. but idiots will ignore the actual work involved in suicide ganking and pretend that ISK shows up in your wallet the moment you lock a freighter and press F1, because they have an agenda for removing all PvP from hisec. Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10548
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:45:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:It's called a suicide gank because your dying isn't a "risk", it's an understanding that your ship will be destroyed.
Because you understand you will die, a "suicide" gank, then it's essentially paying for a gank.
so by dumb pubbie logic, a 95% chance of losing your ship upon engaging would not be "essentially paying for a gank" but just really risky Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10551
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:48:00 -
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notice how divine entervention completely avoids discussing the real risks in suicide ganking (failing the gank entirely, loot roll going against your favor, losing the hauler moving the goods to market) and sticks to the concord loss Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10551
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:50:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:The only reason the "risk" exists is because you don't take the steps necessary to ensure it's being successful.
What you're describing isn't a "suicide gank". It's a "stupid gank" attempt.
right
so tell us, guy who doesn't know a damn thing about suicide ganking, how do you take the necessary steps to ensure that the wreck has the valuable goodies you're looking for?
let me help you because you don't seem to understand these things: when you blow up a player's ship, each module and stack in its cargo has a 50% chance of surviving the destruction of the ship and being in the resulting wreck Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10551
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:53:00 -
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like I said earlier: people who have zero experience with suicide ganking seem to believe that isk shows up in your wallet the moment the target explodes Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10551
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:26:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote: Hmm, I see what you mean.
I'm sorry, at first I thought you were doing "suicide ganks" for the purpose of killing another ship for the fun/enjoyment/sake of doing so.
I didn't take into consideration that your entire premise of a suicide gank was to "profit".
Sorry for assigning an honorable intention onto what clearly is not.
Enjoy your "profiting".
You can't frame suicide ganks done for fun or schadenfreude within the risk/reward model. There's obviously no risk if I decide to run around hisec with 20 destroyer alts killing anything that moves for fun, but it's going to be very costly and the reward of 'fun' doesn't necessarily benefit my status the way profit would. Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10551
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:40:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Apparently, you are financially motivated. While that is great and all that you yourself choose to place your sense of value solely on your ability to "profit" regarding finances, it should also be perfectly understandable that someone other than you could place his value system on something not centered around making isk.
Also, "fun" being a subjective term, it's allowed to be used subjectively, for each person, however he may so desire.
So what risks could suicide ganking for ***** and giggles involve? Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10551
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:45:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:i dunno, some one jamming out half of your ships, or simply alphaing them off the field as soon as they turn criminal, or some one repping your target or.... do i really need to write out the entire damn list?
True, but he's suggesting that there isn't enough risk in this activity. Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10552
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:53:00 -
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also before you say "just fit a tracking computer" remember that 1) we're already countering potential ECM and 2) tracking computers don't do a damn thing when you're getting hit by infowar bonused tracking disruptors Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10554
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:57:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:considering that it will never be possible to reach a 100%, choosing the plan that is 99.99999% effective is the best you can hope for, which means in the realm of reality, it's risk-free.
But you can't get anywhere near a 99.99999% chance of success because you can't discount the possibility that you'll run into skilled anti-gankers who ruin your gank. If profit is your goal, you can't avoid the 50% loot chance.
And all of your mitigation strategies are what you'd hear from those with no experience in suicide ganking. "Increase your sensor strength" is fine and dandy if you're expecting ECM, but others (i.e. bring more ships) are not realistic because suicide ganking is not a zero-sum game. Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10555
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:11:00 -
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The idea that an activity is risk-free because the risks can be mitigated is ludicrously false. That would make basically everything in EVE risk-free, except perhaps for, ironically, for-profit ganking (because of the hardcoded 50% loot chance) and invention (because of invention chance for which some items cannot be 100%) Twitter: @EVEAndski
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