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Nex Angelus
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Posted - 2006.05.17 07:50:00 -
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Hmm... MindDragon... gets me thinking, could there be a link to EternalDragon? 
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Warp Warrior
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Posted - 2006.05.17 07:52:00 -
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Something similar happened to me. I also was not warping, but it was during pvp not on a mission. Seemed like it was due to lag which seems to increase during pvp engagements. My cruiser took twice as long to warp out and as a result I lost the ship.
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.05.17 08:07:00 -
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Lag and sync shows up quite often as you approach a gate coming out of warp... two or three times 
It's definitely lag, I have had the same problem at gates. The nav comp says 'autopilot jumping' but the ship just sits there bouncing off the gate several times. Sometimes it will take a minute or more to finally jump but other times, it will drop the connection completely.
When it starts to happen too frequently, I usually re-log and that seems to cure it. Personally, I would deliberately re-log before a hard mission just to be safe, even if you are not experiencing any problems. I suffer from the memory leak but very slightly but if it's severe on your comp, it may be partly the cause of the lag so re-logging before a mission ensures that you have cleared any memory problems.
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Rat Hubble
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Posted - 2006.05.17 08:18:00 -
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I had this last night and have had it once or twice before, the warping bar is full and the ship is aligned, but the ship just sits there taking more and more damage.
Funnily enough I have only seen it when I am taking alot of damage, this is probably the link to the lag?
It is very frustrating though to see your BS slowly taking hits into hull when it should have warped out 30 seconds ago.
When it happened last night I actually thought that I had disconnected as my ship sat for so long not warping....The clue was that the ship was still showing the damaging hits though.
There is little chance that this has anything to do with being scrambled, the warping text disappears and you are left with the very miserable site of a speed instead, it's one of EVE's most unpleasant experiences - going form a nearly full warp bar to a speed indicator :(
Anyway, hopefully CCP will refund your loss.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.17 08:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Nex Angelus
Hmm... MindDragon... gets me thinking, could there be a link to EternalDragon?
or any of the other hundreds of characters with dragon in their names?
We hardly have a shortage of people to whine, do we?
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.17 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Warp Warrior
Something similar happened to me. I also was not warping, but it was during pvp not on a mission. Seemed like it was due to lag which seems to increase during pvp engagements. My cruiser took twice as long to warp out and as a result I lost the ship.
sure that wasn't someone realising you were warping and MWDing into your side to bump you off course?
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Warp Warrior
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Posted - 2006.05.17 08:36:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Warp Warrior
Something similar happened to me. I also was not warping, but it was during pvp not on a mission. Seemed like it was due to lag which seems to increase during pvp engagements. My cruiser took twice as long to warp out and as a result I lost the ship.
sure that wasn't someone realising you were warping and MWDing into your side to bump you off course?
It was a lone raven lobbing torps at me from over 200km away. Usually I expect to be able to warp out in time with a cruiser but this time the warp cycle took a loong time .
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MindDragon
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Posted - 2006.05.17 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Nex Angelus
Hmm... MindDragon... gets me thinking, could there be a link to EternalDragon?
Nex,
Sadly, no :-)
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Richard Untouchable
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Posted - 2006.05.17 20:23:00 -
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You say you were webbed.
If you were not 100% aligned, and you just got webbed, you won't be going anywhere.
Lets say you were 15 degrees off. You are going 140m/sec. You get webbed down to 20m/sec. You are effectively moving 7x faster than your ship is able, so until it slows down to 25% of 20m/sec, your turning will be completely screwed.
Webs do affect warping.
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Minsc
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Posted - 2006.05.17 20:36:00 -
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Jamming npc scrambling frigs/cruisers is your friend. I've never been scrammed and am rarely webbed when soloing lvl 4's in my mega. All I have to fit is 1 racial jammer.
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Plutoinum
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Posted - 2006.05.17 20:44:00 -
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There IS or WAS at least a bug that rarely occurs.
I had this a few times without any other ship around. I was fullspeed aligned and couldn't warp. Simply stopping the warp and trying again let me warp out, so there was definitely something wrong !
And two times I finally warped after pressing the screenshot key, when I wanted to document it, but I don't know if this was just coincidence or really had an influence. But that was already months ago. Don't know if it's fixed.
( But reminds me that I wanted to check my logs a few days ago. I couldn't warp although I noticed no tackler within 40km. I just assumed that there was a recon ship or whatever that had a long-range scramble ability. )
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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2006.05.17 20:48:00 -
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Edited by: The Wizz117 on 17/05/2006 20:48:39
i noticed it to
the scorp and aligining/warping is not right
some times it makes a spin before it warps
some times it just sitss there and takes ages before it warps, i dont use the scorp for ncping but for pvp in gangs.
and i see all my gang mates warping and at the same time and im staying behind and then the command screams at me that i was not aligend again...
but in these circumstances (or somting) i was not webbed or being fired by missiles wich make u warp even more slow!
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Selena 001
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Posted - 2006.05.17 20:55:00 -
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Doesn't the Advanced Starship Command skill say "only effects ships requiring the Advanced space ship command skill" in its description? BS's dont require Adv. S.S. command, so it doesn't effect them.
The fact that you were warping for a minute does seem a bit screwy. And it seems loads of other ppl have been having problems too. Whats the mission name? Is it just 1 mission thats got a problem, or is it all lvl 4 missions?
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Viktor Fyretracker
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Posted - 2006.05.17 20:59:00 -
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yep sadly a scram can abort a warp jump, odd i know once the core is online it should stay online but thats life in the fast lane.
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Nev Clavain
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Posted - 2006.05.17 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: MindDragon
I have Advanced Spaceship Command 3 and lots of skills that increases Agility and I still die.
Okay, so I am fitted with hardners up to 80% on thermic and kinetic for the damage being done, I am warp aligned 100% to my destination in my Scorpion and I have a WCS1. I warp immediately. Granted, I am webbed, but after a FULL MINUTE of taking damage, I still get podded on a level 4 mission after clicking warp the instant they start doing damage to me. How do they get through over 10,000 damage on me and a FULL MINUTE and I don't warp with a FULL 100% WARP BAR.
This is BS. This game is unplayable of the rules are not fair. I can't descramble a NPC webbing and I can't warp out? What is causing me to wait a FULL MINUTE to warp? Why is it that my friend in the same situation in a Tempest with NO WCS and same exact webbing can warp out but I in a Scorpion can't?
On this basis, I request a FULL REFUND of the 150m ISK I lost and I request a fix for this OBVIOUS BUG.
Posting in the Forums as well. Many other people have had this same problem.
At the very least, make it make sense. There is NO RHYME OR REASON TO THIS MADNESS! This game is basically unplayable with this bug.
Err forgive me if I'm pointing out the obvious, but you say you only had 1 wcs fitted. This does not grant immunity to being scrambled, it merely protects for 1 point of scramble strenght.
To me it sounds like you were scrambled. From your original post it doesnt seem as if you even consider this possibility. Anyhow to be honest I don't really care. When you started calling the game 'unplayable' you may as well have started gurgling and blowing spit bubbles for all the sense you were making.
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Berak FalCheran
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Posted - 2006.05.17 21:27:00 -
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What is a 'warp bar'
YOU LOVE THE BLINKING
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Neoshodan
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Posted - 2006.05.17 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: Neoshodan on 17/05/2006 21:52:38
Sync issues are also a problem at POSes many people have been killed because their ships were shown inside of the bubble, when in fact they were just outside or WAY outside of it. CCP really needs to work on the server/client sync code.... it fails a lot.
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jokerb
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Posted - 2006.05.17 22:27:00 -
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Ok, the incoherent, screaming, rambling isn't necessary. It is unsightly and likely to accomlish little to nothing. I had a similiar incident. I petitioned, and guess what I was right, there was a lag bubble that caused the problem. Loss was replaced. Fast forward 4 weeks different mission, lost the ship. This time was completely my fault. Calm down, think through what happened, petition if called for if not I'm sorry losing a big ship sucks.
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weirdguy21
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Posted - 2006.05.17 22:29:00 -
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Edited by: weirdguy21 on 17/05/2006 22:32:50
ok i tryed not to hit the reply button but i just couldnt resist so here u go
You say once u hit warp u shouldnt be able to be scrambled, Ok now follow me here say ur in 0.0 and u jump threw a gate to a gate camp ur not in a bubble or anything so u can warp, now u hit warp from cloaked and get away and they have no chance of scrambling u aslong as u hit the warp button, how fair is that? so to stop that NPC's and players can scramble no matter what as long as they got more points on u then u have stabs. NPC's scramble for like -4 (dont hold me to that) but i know WCS arnt the answer.
My advice to you is to kill all the frigs and crusiers first so u dont get webbed/scrambled
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Osunn
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Posted - 2006.05.17 22:47:00 -
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I thought it was just me. This has happened to me a couple of times lately. I'm in a bc on a lvl 3 and go to warp and my bar fills and I get the message I'm warping. I sit there for a couple of minutes or more, luckily my tank held in both instances. This is after I'm aligned. No I'm not scrambled, not stuck to anything and not being bumped,thought missle impacts will make me align more slowly. A way to test warp scrambling is to select auto pilot, it will terminate if you are scrambled.
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Istaklain
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Posted - 2006.05.17 23:00:00 -
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Maybe I'm just crazy but I thought I read in one of the dev blogs about changing the warp out behavior so that if a ship was taking heavy fire it would take longer to warp out than usual. Anyone remember this?
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Berrik Radhok
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Posted - 2006.05.17 23:05:00 -
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This is a known bug. Petition it, and you should be able to get your ship back.
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.05.17 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Nev Clavain
Originally by: MindDragon
I have Advanced Spaceship Command 3 and lots of skills that increases Agility and I still die.
Okay, so I am fitted with hardners up to 80% on thermic and kinetic for the damage being done, I am warp aligned 100% to my destination in my Scorpion and I have a WCS1. I warp immediately. Granted, I am webbed, but after a FULL MINUTE of taking damage, I still get podded on a level 4 mission after clicking warp the instant they start doing damage to me. How do they get through over 10,000 damage on me and a FULL MINUTE and I don't warp with a FULL 100% WARP BAR.
This is BS. This game is unplayable of the rules are not fair. I can't descramble a NPC webbing and I can't warp out? What is causing me to wait a FULL MINUTE to warp? Why is it that my friend in the same situation in a Tempest with NO WCS and same exact webbing can warp out but I in a Scorpion can't?
On this basis, I request a FULL REFUND of the 150m ISK I lost and I request a fix for this OBVIOUS BUG.
Posting in the Forums as well. Many other people have had this same problem.
At the very least, make it make sense. There is NO RHYME OR REASON TO THIS MADNESS! This game is basically unplayable with this bug.
Err forgive me if I'm pointing out the obvious, but you say you only had 1 wcs fitted. This does not grant immunity to being scrambled, it merely protects for 1 point of scramble strenght.
To me it sounds like you were scrambled. From your original post it doesnt seem as if you even consider this possibility. Anyhow to be honest I don't really care. When you started calling the game 'unplayable' you may as well have started gurgling and blowing spit bubbles for all the sense you were making.
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Seppu Kuu
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Posted - 2006.05.18 00:03:00 -
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Also, if your MWD or AB is activated and your beeing webbed by a couple of NPCs it takes a very long time to get up to warp speed. A lil trick that works some times is to initially turn on the MWD or ab and once the thrust kicks in turn it off and youll pop to warping speed when your top speed drops.
Ive used this on several occasions and it works very nicely.
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Warp Warrior
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Posted - 2006.05.20 18:05:00 -
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Edited by: Warp Warrior on 20/05/2006 18:06:21
Originally by: Istaklain
Maybe I'm just crazy but I thought I read in one of the dev blogs about changing the warp out behavior so that if a ship was taking heavy fire it would take longer to warp out than usual. Anyone remember this?
If you are right about that it sure would explain a lot. But this is the first time I have heard that.
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Suvereign
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Posted - 2006.05.20 19:52:00 -
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I had the same problem (more than 3mn).
I petition it.
Answer "no able to verify it". 
I love GM who are no able to verify log and problem in the server
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Istaklain
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Posted - 2006.05.20 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Warp Warrior
Edited by: Warp Warrior on 20/05/2006 18:06:21
Originally by: Istaklain
Maybe I'm just crazy but I thought I read in one of the dev blogs about changing the warp out behavior so that if a ship was taking heavy fire it would take longer to warp out than usual. Anyone remember this?
If you are right about that it sure would explain a lot. But this is the first time I have heard that.
I thought it was in a coldwar patch notes or a devblog but I can't remember which. Anyone remember which builds were coldwar?
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NickWest
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Posted - 2006.05.21 05:42:00 -
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Originally by: MindDragon
I understand that one WCS counters once Warp Scramble. That makes sense. I was already in Warp, therefore the WCS makes no difference but I was still put into a pod.
This is totally, and completly wrong. You aren not actually "warping" until you start moving at warp speed. At any point until then you can be locked and scrabbled. Don't believe me? Try it with a corp mate.
Also getting "podded" refers explictly to pod destruction.
As far as a "bug" goes I would suggest the largest bug is the inability to tell in the UI if you are being scrabbled or not.
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2006.05.21 06:49:00 -
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I had the same problem. Blew up my precious Raven and all my precious mods. Had to buy a new raven with the change I had, and do level 4's uninsured to get the isk back to insure it again. Big risk. I don't think you should get the stuff back personally, L4s are a risk you accept when you click 'I accept' or 'I wont let you down' yada yada.
You know what made it especially painful in my case. I had finished the mission but the server went down and the entire thing respawned. So I got killed by NPCS I had already killed and it went down when I was on my way back to my agent, was only 2000m from dock!! Fun Fun 
As for how they get through those shields, lots of guns and missiles!
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Bohoba
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Posted - 2006.05.21 07:14:00 -
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Originally by: turnschuh
its probably because of lag, where do you live and whats your connection? what computer do you use to play eve?
Not lag that's Cald ships they all warp slow no mater what skills you have
to OP you might put on a burst mod this will knock out them pest at close range. also raven is a bit faster warping out and puts out more damage
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