
Ethanole
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.15 11:55:00 -
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Still doesn't change the fact that the taxes are ridiculous, you should allow at least 200% tax rates for these to actually mean something, even a 15 or 20% tax rate for interbus CO's won't bother anyone, In fact I don't see anyone spending 1B on a system just to gain 5M isk per month.
Apart from that the changes are quite good, this is gonna make PI a lot more interesting and fun to manage :D |

Ethanole
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.15 15:29:00 -
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Scrapyard Bob wrote:Current tariffs in high-security space - as of today - on Singularity:
P0 Aqua - 0.50 / 1.00 per unit (import/export) P1 Oxygen - 0.10 / 0.20 per unit P2 Coolant - 9.00 / 18.00 per unit P2 Mech Parts - 9.00 / 18.00 per unit P3 Robotics - 9.00 / 18.00 per unit P4 Broadcast Node - 50,000 / 100,000 per unit
Math:
- P0:P1 unit ratio is 3000:20 (150:1), volume ratio is 30:7.6 m3 (3.95:1) - P1:P2 unit ratio is 80:5 (16:1), volume ratio is 30.4:7.5 m3 (4.05:1) - P2:P3 unit ratio is either 20:3 or 30:3, volume ratio is either 30 m3 or 45 m3 into 18 m3 - P3:P4 unit ratio is 12:1 or 18:1, volume ratio is between 87-108 m3 vs 100 m3
Current prices on TQ:
P0 - 1.50-4.00 P1 - 150-800 (traditionally 120-600) P2 - 4500-11000 (traditionally 4000-7500) P3 - 25000-70000 P4 - 800k to 1500k (traditionally 600k-1200k)
New export tariffs (in hi-sec) as a percentage to the market value of the tier:
P0 - 25.0% to 66.7% P1 - 0.025% to 1.33% P2 - 1.64% to 12.0% P3 - 0.0257% to 0.072% P4 - 6.67% to 12.5%
Summary:
- P1 tariff rates are even lower today then they are on TQ - which means P1 harvest worlds will be even less viable as a taxable resource then initially thought.
- P3 tariff rates are ridiculously low.
Suggestions (assuming hi-sec tariffs are left at the "10%" setting):
- P0 tariff should be 0.40 / 0.80 in hi-sec (not 0.50/1.00)
- P1 tariff should be 40 / 80 per unit in hi-sec.
- P2 tariff should be 500 / 1000 per unit in hi-sec
- P3 tariff should be 5000 / 10000 per unit in hi-sec
- P4 tariff is fine (or take it up 25-50% to encourage building outside of hi-sec).
- If the allowed tariff rate is 0-20%, then the hi-sec CO tariff rate of 10% is okay. But if the allowed tariff rate is 0-100%, then the hi-sec tariff rates are way too low and need to be boosted to 50%. (In which case, all of the above numbers should be divided by 4.)
- The goal of hi-sec tariffs should be that they are high enough to reward a move to null/low in order to reduce taxes, high enough that a low-sec POCO can be viable and competitive for a P1 harvest planet, and generally in the range of 10-20% of existing/traditional market values for that tier when done in hi-sec.
Note emptyquoting, this post explains about everything that's wrong with tax rates/tariffs, also take into account that nobody sane imports/exports P0 (the volume requires a freighter to be profitable and installing P1 factories is more profitable) and thus the most imported/exported articles are P1, P2 and P3. (P4 is fine as it stands). |