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CEO Pyrex
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Posted - 2006.05.18 09:44:00 -
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I strongly urge TS to take this offer and not slur their name even more.
Ok you didnt want to fight...thats cool but your behaviour on the forums has been less than mature and now you wish to employ someone else to do your dirty work for you?!
Im disappointed that someone would even want to fight for TS, isnt that like taking a fat chick to a club? you dont wanna be seen with them, but if they are paying....hmm....no even i have my limits, fat chicks 4tl reputation 4tw.
CEO Pyrex Soft and Fluffy with a sharp after taste
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Fred0
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Posted - 2006.05.18 09:58:00 -
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I haven't seen much outrageous forum behaviour from TS. Sure they rolled over kinda easy but wtf you guys are good and it was lopsided from the start.
Oh and people who don't want to fight hire mercs all the time. Better that than just fading away imho. Altough I have to say it beats me how any merc outfit could possibly beat ASCN in paragon soul. Killwise sure but if we are looking at supporting the logistical monstertask that it is to outpos and totally dominate paragon soul so that TS can get their stuff out then I don't see how it's possible by any of the current merc outfits. Bar GHSC ofcourse but that would take a year or so  ---
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CEO Pyrex
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:07:00 -
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Last act of a desperate alliance in my eyes, take the offer and they have all the isk they need to start again with pride and head held high, employ mercs and its kinda all over as they will be seen as weak and unable to achieve anything. sure they might get some stuff out but what a pit of death PS will be and how weak will TS be considered in the eve peeps eyes forever.....
TS take the deal and move on.
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Dekiri
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:10:00 -
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I don't get the complaints and crying from some people. Cyvok seems to do his job well and he also abuses this forum properly for his propaganda needs and its other functions. I would say he is doing a fine job for his alliance.
I also would claim that looking like a tough dog who can force other alliances players to act on his terms wont hurt his reputation as a good leader inside his alliance either.
And for the "its a game" people: yes it is a game and exactly this is part of this "game" and that is also what makes it better then most other games. ----------------------------------------
I am not an alt i am just young!(and hot) |

Seleene
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: Dekiri Cyvok seems to do his job well and he also abuses this forum properly for his propaganda needs and its other functions.
Is this forum supposed to be for something else?   -
History of the MC movie! |

Rexy
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:26:00 -
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well there are the cool pictures too
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Body Count
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:59:00 -
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Nasty. And I don't understand with ASCN's history why people even deal with them. The part of this I do find interesting is that ASCN doesn't have .5 or BoB to hide behind anymore. That they're doing this without backup from another alliance. Definitely a change in their operating procedure. Interesting.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Ace Garp1
Originally by: Sean Hannity Why don't you just email the CEO instead of making this public display grandstanding and dramatic theatre?
because it makes him seem like a great leader threatning a group or beaten players
it will be his turn next week
OHNOES SKY FALLING FAST RUNS  -----
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Body Count Nasty. And I don't understand with ASCN's history why people even deal with them. The part of this I do find interesting is that ASCN doesn't have .5 or BoB to hide behind anymore. That they're doing this without backup from another alliance. Definitely a change in their operating procedure. Interesting.
When did ASCN hide behind BoB and 5? -
History of the MC movie! |

Dekiri
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Dekiri Cyvok seems to do his job well and he also abuses this forum properly for his propaganda needs and its other functions.
Is this forum supposed to be for something else?  
I guess the real purpose is to keep me awake at work, but i would also go as far as claiming some people use it to get some "reeel infoz!" ----------------------------------------
I am not an alt i am just young!(and hot) |

Body Count
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Body Count Nasty. And I don't understand with ASCN's history why people even deal with them. The part of this I do find interesting is that ASCN doesn't have .5 or BoB to hide behind anymore. That they're doing this without backup from another alliance. Definitely a change in their operating procedure. Interesting.
When did ASCN hide behind BoB and 5?
From the moment ASCN formed they followed .5's lead. Turned on former friends and fought them side by side with .5 They fought along side .5 and BoB against against many people even if they had no vested interest in the outcome. And then there was the G/IRON/RAZOR invasion. A fight ASCN was losing until BoB took one of IRON's outposts and put the pressure on them. So your answer is all the way until the TRUST outpost fell and BoB changed their standings and started firing on ASCN pilots.
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Yanda
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:20:00 -
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Mr Cyvok,
First thanks for your proposition, its fear enought. But my Items will stay in station, its mine forever ...
PS: its not the first time PS fall.
My regard
Yanda
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Kunming
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:21:00 -
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This is getting hilarious with everyday 
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 18/05/2006 11:21:41
Originally by: Body Count
Originally by: Seleene When did ASCN hide behind BoB and 5?
From the moment ASCN formed they followed .5's lead. Turned on former friends and fought them side by side with .5 They fought along side .5 and BoB against against many people even if they had no vested interest in the outcome. And then there was the G/IRON/RAZOR invasion. A fight ASCN was losing until BoB took one of IRON's outposts and put the pressure on them. So your answer is all the way until the TRUST outpost fell and BoB changed their standings and started firing on ASCN pilots.
Hmmm... it's not my place to defend the evil hobbits, but that's an... an interesting view of past events.  -
History of the MC movie! |

Sir Petty
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Dekiri Cyvok seems to do his job well and he also abuses this forum properly for his propaganda needs and its other functions.
Well this part of the forum is for... propaganda and announcments, righto?
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Dekiri
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Petty
Originally by: Dekiri Cyvok seems to do his job well and he also abuses this forum properly for his propaganda needs and its other functions.
Well this part of the forum is for... propaganda and announcments, righto?
Well my dyslexic friend you might find one or two words you missed out of my quote. The most important is "properly", wich in most cases does not apply to "alliance leaders" who post here usually.
I would be also really interested to figure out what your point is? Please fill me in, it can't be postcount+++ since there is no count here....
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Body Count
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 18/05/2006 11:21:41
Originally by: Body Count
Originally by: Seleene When did ASCN hide behind BoB and 5?
From the moment ASCN formed they followed .5's lead. Turned on former friends and fought them side by side with .5 They fought along side .5 and BoB against against many people even if they had no vested interest in the outcome. And then there was the G/IRON/RAZOR invasion. A fight ASCN was losing until BoB took one of IRON's outposts and put the pressure on them. So your answer is all the way until the TRUST outpost fell and BoB changed their standings and started firing on ASCN pilots.
Hmmm... it's not my place to defend the evil hobbits, but that's an... an interesting view of past events. 
Thank you.
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AnxietyAttack
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:41:00 -
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Your comments saying ascn ws losing to g/iron etc is inaccurate. They caused more losses but it took something like a mth to eventually get the station and even then ascn were goin to get it bak the day after (or after that, was awhile ago). Andattacking trust would have been in there interests also because G etc said they were goin to wipe them off the map so a pre emptive strike in a coalition is entirely justified.
The rest of your claims about hidin i wnt even bother with bcoz your argument is very wet tbh
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Josclyn Verreuil
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 18/05/2006 11:21:41
Originally by: Body Count
Originally by: Seleene When did ASCN hide behind BoB and 5?
From the moment ASCN formed they followed .5's lead. Turned on former friends and fought them side by side with .5 They fought along side .5 and BoB against against many people even if they had no vested interest in the outcome. And then there was the G/IRON/RAZOR invasion. A fight ASCN was losing until BoB took one of IRON's outposts and put the pressure on them. So your answer is all the way until the TRUST outpost fell and BoB changed their standings and started firing on ASCN pilots.
Hmmm... it's not my place to defend the evil hobbits, but that's an... an interesting view of past events. 
I'll do that part :p
First off, yes ASCN worked with 5 directly after formation, and for quite some time had standings set similarly to both 5 and BoB. That said, prior to EC- name me one engagement in which BoB and ASCN fought together? Or even .5. for that matter, I didn't see any ASCN pilots up in the east assisting against the reds, and I didn't see any requests for help either. ASCN wasn't up north assisting against PA/FE/NBSI/Etc either.
ASCN has stood on its own for quite some time now.
Oh, and that G/IRON invasion bit gets its own special paragraph...
First off, the invasion force was *primarily* G alliance. I completely fail to see where you're getting this bit about ASCN losing ground until BoB moved on IRON space (and actually, JUST JU-, but hey). G had managed to gain sovereignty in ONE out of 10 or so ASCN outpost systems.... for one night.
The POS war was very heated those last few days up to RMR release, since the sov rules were going to be changed. G made a number of attempts at zerging the system down (which has 60+ moons), all of which resulted in billions of isk in pos towers (this is when pos's were still cheap, even) lost for G. After a week or so of attempts, they managed to gain sov for one night, the night before the night before RMR release. ASCN however removed those PoSs the next day and was in position to regain sov for RMR release (which included the now 5 day sov claiming wait time, which would have secured the system indefinately for ASCN, the way the war was going).
To be fair to G, the time-zone discrepancy weighed in ASCNs favor for the most part, but regardless of any of that, ASCN defeated that invasion on their own terms. And as much as people like to point to the kill/loss ratio, it is VERY much worth considering that while yes we lost many more battleships.... G lost an equally impressive amount of isk in PoS hardware.
Anywho... this has nothing to do with G, BoB, or .5. sooooo yeah. Just me being bored at 5 a.m.
Oh, and this isn't an alt :)
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DeWieKat
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: CYVOK This is a one time offer to Tribal Souls.
ASCN now has the information concerning your stockpiles in Paragon Soul and the Merc's you have and are going to hire to try to rescue it.
I give you an alternative... Sell it to me. Contact me in-game with your main and be prepared to provide proof of what you have. I will offer a more then fair price.
If the merc's show up. ASCN will hunt and kill every Tribe member that gets within 20 jumps of Paragon. This is the price you will pay, you will NEVER get your items out and I will order ASCN members to not purchase anything you put on the markets.
The choice is yours. Be civilized, or find out exactly how "mean" ASCN can become.
-CYVOK-
lol, the charming, brave cyvok! what a huge heart u must have. what an unselfish, social and generous move 
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Plutoinum
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Posted - 2006.05.18 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Body Count Nasty. And I don't understand with ASCN's history why people even deal with them. The part of this I do find interesting is that ASCN doesn't have .5 or BoB to hide behind anymore. That they're doing this without backup from another alliance. Definitely a change in their operating procedure. Interesting.
Yes, now we get to see the true hobbit power ! 
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.05.18 12:22:00 -
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Take the deal, its a smart move, in the risk stakes if your gonna pay for mercs to extra equipment and might get popped on enroute out with the equipment, compared with getting paid a fair price in the more useable isk, it makes far much more sense to take the opportunity and reconsilidate else where.
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Dr Picard
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Posted - 2006.05.18 13:28:00 -
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Ahhh good to see the greediness virus has infected you too. Why should TS memebers line your wallet for you?
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Bitchslap
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Posted - 2006.05.18 13:32:00 -
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Stalker ring a bell
All evil die sooner or later and it will come from the north ........
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slip66
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Posted - 2006.05.18 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: 0Virtu0 They grow so fast.. *sniff*
lol, and they learn well.
Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers |

Agent Kenshin
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Posted - 2006.05.18 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kai page
It is our cookie dough you can't have it  See you soon MC
ps Mr Primax bring your absoloution lets have a re-match 
Go play with your own cookie dough you cant have ours. 
BTW any invovlement we show is because you keep stealing our cookie dough. We want it back!!!! 
Originally by: MAXSuicide only carebears call pvpers 'greifers'
ehehehh....
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Rutoo
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Posted - 2006.05.18 15:09:00 -
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I have a few things in paragon can you buy those too please :) _________________________________________________________
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Aegis Osiris
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Posted - 2006.05.18 15:30:00 -
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[emote/consp. theo. prog. active]
I am APPALLED at the utter lack of attention that you forum regulars have shown.
Are you all BLIND??
Some of you even comment about it..'a new Cyvok...see how he's grown...'
How can you not see the obvious? Do I need to spell it out??
Cyvok is....no longer Cyvok!!
Yes! He is obviously a recently aquired alt character of none other then....
Seleene!!
And, since we all know that Seleene is Blacklight's alt (or is it Diana's? I've lost track...), then this is clearly not an ASCN thread, but a covert message from BoB!!!
Oh, you devious, naughty people you!
*places tinfoil cap proudly on head*
Go Tinfoil!! ________________________________________________ This thread does not exist
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Kipkruide
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Posted - 2006.05.18 15:36:00 -
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Edited by: Kipkruide on 18/05/2006 15:36:40 i think we'll have some fun. besides we can remove our stuff from ps any time we want.
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Netto
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Posted - 2006.05.18 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Aegis Osiris [emote/consp. theo. prog. active]
I am APPALLED at the utter lack of attention that you forum regulars have shown.
Are you all BLIND??
Some of you even comment about it..'a new Cyvok...see how he's grown...'
How can you not see the obvious? Do I need to spell it out??
Cyvok is....no longer Cyvok!!
Yes! He is obviously a recently aquired alt character of none other then....
Seleene!!
And, since we all know that Seleene is Blacklight's alt (or is it Diana's? I've lost track...), then this is clearly not an ASCN thread, but a covert message from BoB!!!
Oh, you devious, naughty people you!
*places tinfoil cap proudly on head*
Go Tinfoil!!
Hmm, interesting. I have met Seleene in person, but I've never met Cyvok or Blacklight.. interesting, I think that means they are indeed the same person now! It also explains why cyvok has been spelling somewhat properly lately!!!
Zounds, man, you've got it!!
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