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Abyss Jack
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: Abyss Jack on 18/05/2006 11:59:51
 Originally by: Abyss Jack
he's doing near the same damage as my thanatos... so what
never said other carriers make same dmg as thanatos, just NEAR the same with 3/3/3 skills OMG woody
tbh in a 1v1 moros against thana = the the moros will pop without siegemode.
The trick are dragonfly drones, they are bugged and orbiting the target 7-10km, while thana can easy smartbomb the Ogre II 
for note, i know this would just be a tactical victory. I'm not sure how good 1500dps can break capital tanks.
and i thought this is a carrier thread, so stfu moros
/me kicks them back to poswarfare
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.05.18 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Abyss Jack
Edited by: Abyss Jack on 18/05/2006 11:59:51
Originally by: Abyss Jack
he's doing near the same damage as my thanatos... so what
never said other carriers make same dmg as thanatos, just NEAR the same with 3/3/3 skills OMG woody
tbh in a 1v1 moros against thana = the the moros will pop without siegemode.
The trick are dragonfly drones, they are bugged and orbiting the target 7-10km, while thana can easy smartbomb the Ogre II
for note, i know this would just be a tactical victory. I'm not sure how good 1500dps can break capital tanks.
and i thought this is a carrier thread, so stfu moros
/me kicks them back to poswarfare
First, Moros gets +50% Drone HP per level and it can also hold 20 Ogres II in its drone bay 
Summertime - Campingtime!
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Capone McFredrik
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Posted - 2006.05.18 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Morrigan Starlover
On most ships I would fight and say no they specialize in a different weapon system or something, but I agree on this.
Its a carrier. They fight with drones and fighters. Its their only damage system, they should all get the same bonus.
That 5% resistances and shield/armor transfer times is just CPP scratching their heads not knowing wtf to do.
The carriers and motherships are the ONLY ones where I think the bonuses should be absolutely identical.
Gallente carriers appear to be the only ones worth training for unfortunately. 
What a pile of crap!
I think that range is good, so I will go for the carrier with the range bonus.
Other ppl have different opinions / needs. The carrier will anyway wtfpwn a couple of BS and the carrier is a good resource if used correctly!
Train the carrier of the race you like the best =)
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.05.18 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Capone McFredrik
Originally by: Morrigan Starlover
On most ships I would fight and say no they specialize in a different weapon system or something, but I agree on this.
Its a carrier. They fight with drones and fighters. Its their only damage system, they should all get the same bonus.
That 5% resistances and shield/armor transfer times is just CPP scratching their heads not knowing wtf to do.
The carriers and motherships are the ONLY ones where I think the bonuses should be absolutely identical.
Gallente carriers appear to be the only ones worth training for unfortunately.
What a pile of crap!
I think that range is good, so I will go for the carrier with the range bonus.
Other ppl have different opinions / needs. The carrier will anyway wtfpwn a couple of BS and the carrier is a good resource if used correctly!
Train the carrier of the race you like the best =)
No BS will die to a carrier. Why? Cause fighters wars behind your target, you cant give fighters commandos while warping and thy warp slower than Battleships.
You can make a complete Carrier useless just by warping around.
Summertime - Campingtime!
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Abyss Jack
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Posted - 2006.05.18 12:50:00 -
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ye like they are no warpscamblers and smartbombs have only 1 shot 
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Nyxus
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Posted - 2006.05.18 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Eddz
The Gallente Dread and Carrier are over powered in comparison to the other races, any one that argues different is a noob with no idea what they are talking about.
Well tbh if you are JUST doing it for capital ships, Eddz is absolutely correct. As far as Dreads go, the Revelation is arguably better for taking shields down on POS, but the WTFPWNAGE of the drones on a Moros is just INSANE. Those huge dps numbers from drones aren't wrong (as anyone facing a skilled Moros pilot can tell you). The other dreads basically fly around naked where a Moros flies around with a Minifleet of Doom.....
As far as Carriers, there is one carrier to rule them all. Thanatos. An extra low and resists would be nice, but you can't disagree that in sheer destructive potential it wins hands down. Unfortunately, if you assign your drones to someone else it seems that the bonuses from the carrier and pilot no longer apply. So unless you have the cohones to risk a carrier on the front lines it doesn't matter all that much what type of carrier you have. On sheer looks I think the Matari carrier looks the best.
Has anyone tried to assign drones to someone with the Fighter skill trained? Do the drones get a skill bonus from the assigned person?
Just curious.
Nyxus
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Abyss Jack
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Posted - 2006.05.18 13:59:00 -
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Edited by: Abyss Jack on 18/05/2006 13:59:44
Originally by: Eddz
The Gallente Dread and Carrier are over powered in comparison to the other races, any one that argues different is a noob with no idea what they are talking about.
gallente r ugly, and their navy is poor (look navy description) so thats why they spam with cheap drones )/&%(%º$º%
fly a thanatos first and tell me how overpowerd it is?! i bet you will whine about wasted SP for such a useless stone...
-pvp/piracy is too expansive after a few fighter looses (just for the reason they won't mwd back)
-lowsec mission farming or 0.0 beltfarming are the only points where thanatos rules imao
-pos'ing / instahauling is good too (but every carrier can do it)
-just saying its "overpowered" is not enough, you have to call good reasons in which case you can USE this power?! Imo there is only the npc case aslong the dmgbonus doesn't effect appended drones on gangmates, but the bonus doesn't rox like you imagine... try it yourself. 
whining about stats and dps math is not cool, the issue itself is not wtfuber (yes minmi carriers...)
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.05.18 14:42:00 -
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Can anyone please confirm is drones are affected by siege mode?
Do they get damage bonus and tracking malus?
Thanks
- Gob
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mr passie
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Posted - 2006.05.18 14:49:00 -
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Edited by: mr passie on 18/05/2006 14:49:39
You know....
This whole discussion would be pointless if everyone would just start flying minnie carriers
As long as not everyone does and no one wants to fly va minnie carrier you can all donate them to me
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.05.18 14:51:00 -
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Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 18/05/2006 14:52:12
Originally by: Abyss Jack
never said other carriers make same dmg as thanatos, just NEAR the same with 3/3/3 skills OMG woody
yes, and thus assuming that he will do same dmg as you with ur skills at 4 i assume?
i dont want to harass you, i just want to point out that ur statement is simply wrong.
Thanatos does 40% more damage. No other tier 2 bs does fricking 40% more damage then their counterparts. Dreads also not. Wait... theres the moros...
also, a non siegemode Moros can tank ur fighters forever still.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.05.18 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 18/05/2006 14:55:13
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Can anyone please confirm is drones are affected by siege mode?
Do they get damage bonus and tracking malus?
Thanks
no tracking malus. damage bonus afaik yessir
i will try to test it today with a mate, gobbity gobby gob
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