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I am a huge fan of player driven content even if it is something that inhibits my own game-play. When I was made aware that the CFC was going to "Burn" Jita my response was more of a shoulder shrug than a shiver down my spine. This year the only thing that is different is now The CFC have a bunch of Mobile Tractor and Mobile Depot units lined up next to their not so inconspicuous salvaging ships.

Last year "Burn" Jita did around 500 Billion in damaged during the event. This may seem like an awe inspiring numbers but in reality it's something to be ashamed of. Jita as a trade hub and center for the economy of New Eden, constantly has isk flowing in and out. Half a Trillion isk is less than 2% of the wealth moving through the solar system. If only from a statistical perspective, "Burn" Jita isn't all that effective at burning anything.

Adding insult to injury, this year the CFC has a massive network of Mobile Tractors and Depots which they are very clearly using to salvage and loot anything of value that they kill. The CFC has an inordinate amount of wealth both liquid and otherwise why then are they not just shooting the wrecks and adding impact to their event?

The answer to this question is simple.
Greed

When any entity accumulates that much wealth, it has a tendency to become an end in-of itself. Rather than the wealth remaining as it should a means to an end it becomes the most important thing. This concept of wealth quickly becomes conflated with power and influence thus further reinforcing the mentality that more is always better.

Ultimately "Burn" Jita is an excellent PR Tool for CFC however anybody paying attention can see that this is otherwise brilliant player driven event is being used as an opportunistic cash grab for those that already have so much of it.

You know the rules and so do I

I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling

Last year "Burn" Jita did around 500 Billion in damaged during the event. This may seem like an awe inspiring numbers but in reality it's something to be ashamed of.

This post makes it sound like you're the alt of Xenuria.

this thread is why people who voted for xenuria should feel bad.

People voted for him?

Someone call the Internet Morals and Corruption Inspectorate, who will probably assign Defective Teg to the case

i hope not.

it can't be 'a few nerds trying to make some spacemoney during a player event', can it? it has to be 'a massive network of cfc mtus' planned by high command

You know the rules and so do I

I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling

quick tinman, to the foilmobile!

Oh how I wish there was still a dislike button.

This gonna be good.

*sips peppermint tea*

I'll never understand why CCP are apparently still seeding the Shitposting skillbook on the forums.

I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.
Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!

The Rules:
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Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued.

except you didn't lock the thread for ranting.

could you enforce all the rules, not just the ones you want to?

Agreed, as long as all Burn Jita, Hulkageddon, and similar threads are also moved to --> In-Game Events and Gatherings where they belong.

Thin ice, man. Thin ice.

yeah-yeah I'm just wondering how any of them can stand hanging around that doubler spamming cesspool all weekend

After all this time, Pubbies still don't "get" goons.

I am going to make "Burn" Jita a little more ~Interesting~.
I will shoot freighter wrecks the moment they appear thus negating the wealth of their cargo. If there is anybody who wants to fight back then I suggest you do the same with a cheap destroyer fit.

So it has no effect on the trade of Jita yet it is a huge cash grab from one of, if not the richest alliance in the history of the game. What are you complaining about exactly?

shush, nobody reply

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don't hurt me Ezwal, I'm drunk with a wizard hat on >.>

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Goons are like that 'edgy' kid who makes farting sounds at the back of the classroom but brings his teacher an apple every monday because he's a hapless, timid virgin

I am going to make "Burn" Jita a little more ~Interesting~.
I will shoot freighter wrecks the moment they appear thus negating the wealth of their cargo. If there is anybody who wants to fight back then I suggest you do the same with a cheap destroyer fit.

I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them.

Is there a way so i can just show up and watch ?

fly to jita and find out. (tip, go in something cheap)

Yeah.

Small, cheap... but use implants!

I went forward with my plan to shoot any freighter wrecks that I could find but I ran into a small problem. During this ~burning~ of Jita the only wrecks I could see over a 4 hr period were destroyer wrecks. I watched rather amused as freighters undocked and aligned uninhibited by the goons.


Unfortunately for the CFC the only thing in Jita that is burning is their relevance as an entity in New Eden.

as a CSM candidate, i would have assumed that you knew what a salvager module was. clearly not.

We'll also be seeing who's relevant, once the voting counts are announced.

based on how few people give a **** about the csm, and those that do only care to mock it... i fear he may get a seat because it's the ultimate troll.

then again, i think it'd be good to have some one who exclusively comes up with stupid ideas to be instantly shot down at the beginning of any discussion. it's nice to filter out the bad ideas quickly, leaves more room for worth while discussion.

I will admit that there always exists the possibility that I am misunderstanding something. I have continued to sit undocked in jita and while I have seen some freighters get ganked by a swarm of goons I also consistently seen 90% of freighters go free. Their behavior even suggests that they are either oblivious to "Burn" Jita or they feel they have a good chance of escaping.

I started keeping track of the different corporations and alliances that the freighter pilots belonged to. I noticed something I kinda expected. The people getting ganked have wars active, when the CFC isn't welping mass amounts of Gank Ships to kill a single hauler or freighter they are simply making use of kill rights to circumvent the need for suicide ganking entirely.


As I said before it's possible that I am missing some key part of this event that by itself makes "Burn" Jita different from any other week. At this point it seems like Jita is just as safe for high value cargo as it ever was.

I am a huge fan of player driven content even if it is something that inhibits my own game-play. When I was made aware that the CFC was going to "Burn" Jita my response was more of a shoulder shrug than a shiver down my spine. This year the only thing that is different is now The CFC have a bunch of Mobile Tractor and Mobile Depot units lined up next to their not so inconspicuous salvaging ships.

Last year "Burn" Jita did around 500 Billion in damaged during the event. This may seem like an awe inspiring numbers but in reality it's something to be ashamed of. Jita as a trade hub and center for the economy of New Eden, constantly has isk flowing in and out. Half a Trillion isk is less than 2% of the wealth moving through the solar system. If only from a statistical perspective, "Burn" Jita isn't all that effective at burning anything.

Adding insult to injury, this year the CFC has a massive network of Mobile Tractors and Depots which they are very clearly using to salvage and loot anything of value that they kill. The CFC has an inordinate amount of wealth both liquid and otherwise why then are they not just shooting the wrecks and adding impact to their event?

The answer to this question is simple.
Greed

When any entity accumulates that much wealth, it has a tendency to become an end in-of itself. Rather than the wealth remaining as it should a means to an end it becomes the most important thing. This concept of wealth quickly becomes conflated with power and influence thus further reinforcing the mentality that more is always better.

Ultimately "Burn" Jita is an excellent PR Tool for CFC however anybody paying attention can see that this is otherwise brilliant player driven event is being used as an opportunistic cash grab for those that already have so much of it.

As I said before it's possible that I am missing some key part of this event that by itself makes "Burn" Jita different from any other week.

if you're oblivious to the mass ganking of freighters...

then honestly, you'd be a useless csm if you don't even have a clue what's going on in the game despite claiming to be there watching it.

I never said that there was no ganking at all. I only made the point that statistically speaking the degree of ganking is underwhelming and minute.