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Kelewan
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Posted - 2003.09.22 00:31:00 -
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Doesn't anyone want to return home? to see those megalith cities that the ancient holo films talk of? Am I alone in my desire?
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"I am watching you through a camera" - Artie Ziff
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Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2003.09.22 00:34:00 -
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the resources were probly consomed years ago and with the judas syndrome..I doubt you WANT to run into them
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Tell my tale to those who ask.
Tell it truly - the ill deeds, along with the good - and let me be judged accordingly.
If this world was supposed to be friendly
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Kelewan
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Posted - 2003.09.22 00:38:00 -
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I expect that the Judans have left Earth an age ago for pastures greener. But I imagine the ruins of the old cities are still there. I suppose I just feel home sick.
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"I am watching you through a camera" - Artie Ziff
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.09.22 00:49:00 -
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Imagine how advanced any ancients would be now if they haven't perished yet.
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Scaramouche
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Posted - 2003.09.22 01:29:00 -
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Home?...i am home, Matar, thats my home.
Erath....is that it's name?....where and what is it?
Hmmm, i will have to purchase some of those holoreels.
You got any copies?
Remember, only dead fish and broken sticks go with the flow. |
Kelewan
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Posted - 2003.09.22 02:02:00 -
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No I don't. As far as i know they are all held in school's and college's. Maybe you should drop by one of them and ask if you can have a look?
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"I am watching you through a camera" - Artie Ziff
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Abandoned Child
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Posted - 2003.09.22 02:39:00 -
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I believe that we will run into these "Ancients" when destiny gets around to it... |
Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2003.09.22 03:44:00 -
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..the Judas Syndrom is a slow decline in loyalites where people become more and more willing to backstab to improve THEIR positions..the Cold War if the anichent 1900's had signs of this towards the end
the secondary effect is since everyone beleives theyll be attacked..militaaried build repidly..if we see the Earthlings again..theyll either be at the high point of a aggressive stance, or a stone age
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Tell my tale to those who ask.
Tell it truly - the ill deeds, along with the good - and let me be judged accordingly.
If this world was supposed to be friendly
CCP wouldnt have wasted time paying the devs to code so many weapons |
Suuji Praath
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Posted - 2003.09.22 05:29:00 -
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I am quite interested in this group of people who claim to have an intimate knowledge of Earth. Even the best macrohistorians have great difficulties finding any information about Earth, nevermind specifics.
I even doubt our Jovian neighbours have much data on our mysterious "homeworld". For me, Earth is but a fable, for children and optimists. Neither of which applies to me.
Know Thyself. |
Vacuole
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Posted - 2003.09.22 05:44:00 -
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I believe all the Earth stuff is usual religious mumbo-jumbo.
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Inoculator
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Posted - 2003.09.22 06:44:00 -
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I expect that the Judans have left Earth an age ago for pastures greener.
Where do think the Amarr hails from? 
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Insanity Level 
Help! For I am one with the Strain.
my feeble grin drips like a blood-streak down my chin.
As the flesh ripped from my hand i knew pain
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Rhianna Desaille
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Posted - 2003.09.22 10:34:00 -
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Edited by: Rhianna Desaille on 22/09/2003 10:36:57
Interestingly enough, using my Nanoprocessor Algorythmic Grid, i ran a few test models of predicted histories for this earth system based on data i could gather from holoreels, memory chips etc. A couple of days later, a finalised prediction was made: Earth, its inhabitants and all the populations spawned from that planet, would have destroyed themselves. It seems it would have happened not long after our departure as the humans there would argue over the incidents that occured during the gates collapse. Their bickering would then lead to mass conflict.
There where also several thousand other scenarios predicted, all leading to the doom of earth.
Interestingly enough, the grid also said that this prediction is partially based on the history of humanity and all that we have shown to be capable of, our own destruction.
I thought about running the test to see what it predicts roughly for our lives and our futures in eve, but i was afraid.
Afraid of what it may have said...
Of course, all these results prove nothing, for if such predictions where reliable, why didnt we forsee the collapse of the gate in the first place?
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What universe is this if there is no love anymore?
A dead universe to my heart...
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Kelewan
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Posted - 2003.09.22 13:36:00 -
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Maybe some did see the "fall of the gate". you know what these politicians are like!
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Nariko Tenrai
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Posted - 2003.09.22 16:38:00 -
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I am sorry, Kelewan-san, but I do not believe Earth ever existed. It is a metaphor like Eden or Camelot, a symbol of "better days" lost due to human weakness.
Not a day goes by when that I don't see some station-rat peddling "absolutely authentic" relics of Earth on his blanket, whether that be a seed, a burned bit of electonics, or a stack of crumbling hardcopy. You may as well quest for the Holy Grail, or collect the bones of saints.
Yearning for better times is all well and good, but I believe the better times are something we build in the here and now, not something we go looking to dig up.
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I have measured and described the stars, their great and countless multitude. What man has seen their revolutions and entrances? Not even the angels see their number, yet I have recorded all their names.
- The Book of the Secrets of Enoch, Jewish Pseudepigrapha
We won't talk about how many cruisers I lost this weekend, nor how many nice railguns, or T2 enhancers. We're going to skip right over that. We're going to talk about my new Raven. It is like flying a small city, and the city's only export is missiles.
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Seraph Warbird
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Posted - 2003.09.22 16:52:00 -
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It is spelled Urth just like your supposted to say it.
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Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2003.09.22 17:52:00 -
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My family tends to keep to itself..you'd be amased the records and details we have
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Tell my tale to those who ask.
Tell it truly - the ill deeds, along with the good - and let me be judged accordingly.
If this world was supposed to be friendly
CCP wouldnt have wasted time paying the devs to code so many weapons |
Kelewan
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Posted - 2003.09.22 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Kelewan on 22/09/2003 18:19:24
That may be the case Nariko, but every time I pass near that EVE gate, I always seem to feel a sense of longing for the ancient days. *sigh* well maybe one day we will get that gate working again......
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"I am watching you through a camera" - Artie Ziff
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Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2003.09.22 18:20:00 -
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youll be sorry
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Tell my tale to those who ask.
Tell it truly - the ill deeds, along with the good - and let me be judged accordingly.
If this world was supposed to be friendly
CCP wouldnt have wasted time paying the devs to code so many weapons |
Kelewan
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Posted - 2003.09.22 18:26:00 -
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youll be sorry
We will see.......
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Idonis Maxamillion
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Posted - 2003.09.22 21:23:00 -
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Dear Gallente neighbour, I know of the tales that gallente families spread down from generation to generation of humanities home planet were we all formed into being! but are you sure they are true, my home has always been the empire and if I was to go to planet earth it would be to conqour it.
Idonis the lonly..
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Kelewan
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Posted - 2003.09.22 21:28:00 -
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To be honest, I don't think there will be much left to conquer!
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Ph0enix
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Posted - 2003.09.22 21:55:00 -
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the collapse of the EVE gate was not a natural disaster. ever considered it may of been a terrorist attack? ever considered something not so human didn't want our race spreading across the universe?
we are not alone.....
www.freetribes.net |
Ann Ripley
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Posted - 2003.09.22 23:02:00 -
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Has nobody told you...??
The Earth was destroid eons ago because of the making of an intergalatic bypass/freeway...
But then the Improbabilty drive came thus making the freeway useless..
(but the mice where furious..)
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Lord Panther
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Posted - 2003.09.22 23:10:00 -
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the collapse of the EVE gate was not a natural disaster. ever considered it may of been a terrorist attack? ever considered something not so human didn't want our race spreading across the universe?
we are not alone.....
For once I agree with a Minmatar. It could be that others decided to quarantine this universe after seeing the vile Minmatar race.
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Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2003.09.22 23:20:00 -
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it was a ammar.they blamed us all since you all hide behind hoods
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Tell my tale to those who ask.
Tell it truly - the ill deeds, along with the good - and let me be judged accordingly.
If this world was supposed to be friendly
CCP wouldnt have wasted time paying the devs to code so many weapons |
Emperor Dracula
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Posted - 2003.09.23 00:14:00 -
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Seeing how it took us nearly 13,000 years from the collapse of the EVE Gate until rediscovering Jumpgate technology.....we should assume that the old Earth Empire is about 13,000 years more technologically advanced then any of us. If we ever re-open the EVE Gate it is my belief the Earth Empire would quickly conquer us. Our militaries would be worthless. I say destroy what is left of it just to be safe.
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Corpsicle
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Posted - 2003.09.23 00:43:00 -
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I actually doubt that anyone in the Eve universe would know anything about Earth and the history of it. Its 23 thousand years since they left Earth and alot of knowledge was lost in the dark time after the gate collapsed.
Anything that is know would probably be wildly incorrect myths and legends. |
Slithereen
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Posted - 2003.09.23 04:34:00 -
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Halt this nonsense!!!
This Earth is just a myth invented by parable tellers with an agenda of their own.
Anyone who propagates this myth should be considered a heretic and must be subjected to the thumbscrews of the Inquisition!
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"Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies,
"Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy.
"Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
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Aken Varrsh
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Posted - 2003.09.23 04:37:00 -
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Quote:
Edited by: Rhianna Desaille on 22/09/2003 10:36:57
Interestingly enough, using my Nanoprocessor Algorythmic Grid, i ran a few test models of predicted histories for this earth system based on data i could gather from holoreels, memory chips etc. A couple of days later, a finalised prediction was made: Earth, its inhabitants and all the populations spawned from that planet, would have destroyed themselves. It seems it would have happened not long after our departure as the humans there would argue over the incidents that occured during the gates collapse. Their bickering would then lead to mass conflict.
There where also several thousand other scenarios predicted, all leading to the doom of earth.
Interestingly enough, the grid also said that this prediction is partially based on the history of humanity and all that we have shown to be capable of, our own destruction.
I thought about running the test to see what it predicts roughly for our lives and our futures in eve, but i was afraid.
Afraid of what it may have said...
Of course, all these results prove nothing, for if such predictions where reliable, why didnt we forsee the collapse of the gate in the first place?
Interesting hypotheses, however I find it strange that a people capable of creating the Gates would simply annihilate themselves.
I mean, did we not survive the Catastrophe? And, if the theories hold correct, we were on the newly colonised section, completely unprepared for the consequences of the Catastrophe. Yet we survived.
I believe that the citizens of Earth, or more appropriately the other side of the EVE Gate, are doing just fine. We've survived millenia without destroying one another, I'm sure the obviously intellectual people of Earth could manage the same.
Soothsayers and scientists alike, all are blinded by their methods.
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Ka'loor
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Posted - 2003.09.23 10:45:00 -
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data about earth is sure in the hands of the Sisters of EVE, probably truly muddled, as my family has kept records of its ancestors for millenia, as we descend from the one of the oldest families of Amarr society. But there are many such old families among amarr. Thus we have kept quite a bt of earth among our record books. And as such we know, that earth was truly advanced, because otherwise, we wouldnt be here, if no erath exists, where do we hail from. A mysterious wormhole? I dare say not. But if Earth still lives on, it will be far more advanced than us, if they were destroyed, then by a race, even mroe advanced than that. Or they just forgot how to find more asteroid belts..........
Attack without mercy, until blood is gone, until life is gone, until the light is gone, unto the shadow itself.
Better to die with honor, than to live in shame. |
Rhianna Desaille
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Posted - 2003.09.23 10:56:00 -
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Aken, Thankyou for your thoughts on the matter, it cheered me up somewhat today 
Well as it has been noted,a LONG time has passed since the gates collapse, and you would think that if humanity where to flourish, then they would have the capability to repair the gate. There are several logical reasons i have for why this has not occured.
1) Earth is no more, a simple agreement with my grids predicitons.
2) They forgot about us. This is also likely since most here believe the other side to be just a myth, but the gate says much more...
Whats to say that over there, Eve is just a fairytale land that only exists in the thoughts of children during bedtime stories?
3) There is no way, even with 13,000 more years of research, that the gate can ever be repaired. perhaps somthing occured in the collapse that prevents us ever linking up. Maybe thats it, we are a lost seed of humanity, and we shall survive alone, no way back to our true home.
Anybody else wish to put forth their thoughts on the matter without screaming the word heretic or blasphemy at me? 
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What universe is this if there is no love anymore?
A dead universe to my heart...
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Aran'gar
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Posted - 2003.09.23 13:42:00 -
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You people must be joking. Earth is just a myth like so many other stories about the EVE gate, The Sisters even think god is on the other side.
For the sake of your reputation I suggest you read this article by one of the most respected scientists in the galaxy.
Freedom for all
Join channel Minmatar for contacts. |
Raindrop
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Posted - 2003.09.23 17:50:00 -
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Not that i want to increase the doubts. But are we even sure that this planet is called "Earth"?
I've heared the name "Gia" sprung up several times during my trips. Also "The World" has been heared by some.
Some rumours speak of the ancients having but one companion in the sky. Speculations about that go into the direction of a single moon. Noone has ever seen a system with a planet and just one moon. It seems very unlikely to be more then just myth.
Raindrop
Raindrop
Trader of low end stuff and NPC goods. Recycler of junk.
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Gabriel Dumont
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Posted - 2003.09.23 18:56:00 -
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Never have I heard such incessent drivel! Eons ago the same rash and uneducated comments were made about the Garden of Eden and the Tower of Babylon.
It is obvious that there are many in the current universe are just as uneducated about the existence of Earth and history will repeat itself once again. We are all on a path of self destruction, even the mighty Jovian's. We are now witnessing the collapse of Bipedity. Illiterate, corrupt and full of envy we pathologiclally ignore Earths once bright existence, and Earth's ultimate destruction for it's failure to seek true enlightenment.
Consider yourselves duly warned. The end is once again near. This time for ALL Bipeds.
Gabe
In space, no one hears you scream...
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.09.23 19:09:00 -
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You are all heretics.
All of you.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Aken Varrsh
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Posted - 2003.09.24 04:34:00 -
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Aken, Thankyou for your thoughts on the matter, it cheered me up somewhat today
Well as it has been noted,a LONG time has passed since the gates collapse, and you would think that if humanity where to flourish, then they would have the capability to repair the gate. There are several logical reasons i have for why this has not occured.
1) Earth is no more, a simple agreement with my grids predicitons.
2) They forgot about us. This is also likely since most here believe the other side to be just a myth, but the gate says much more...
Whats to say that over there, Eve is just a fairytale land that only exists in the thoughts of children during bedtime stories?
3) There is no way, even with 13,000 more years of research, that the gate can ever be repaired. perhaps somthing occured in the collapse that prevents us ever linking up. Maybe thats it, we are a lost seed of humanity, and we shall survive alone, no way back to our true home.
Anybody else wish to put forth their thoughts on the matter without screaming the word heretic or blasphemy at me?
Interesting theories once again, yet I find discrepancies in this batch as well.
Let's assume that our progenitors from across the gate did advance through all these years to a technological state where they could repair their side of the gate. However, the gates must both be repaired for there to be any functioning. Since our gate is far from repaired, then unless another natural wormhole connected our respective regions of space, we shall never be reunited.
Nonetheless, the possibility that there is still a living population on the other side of the EVE gate is quite probable.
Assuming we are the colonial population of our progenitors, then we can also assume that our original population was significantly smaller than theirs. Also, after the destruction of our Gate (we're unsure if their side of the gates was even damaged) we suffered innumerable deaths. Therefore, our progenitor peoples would not only be more advanced than us, their population would be significantly larger. Such a large population, no doubt spread over countless systems, could invariably survive all but the most destructive forces.
We, an unprepared colonial population cut off from our homeworld, not only survived but flourished in an uncharted, undeveloped region of space. And I believe that our well-prepared, advanced, progenitors would have little or no problem surviving.
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Louis Lane
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Posted - 2003.09.24 04:54:00 -
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We should all sponsor a long range scout team of Brave lad's to try and find erth and see if our people still exist.
The one person who would have the guts and determination to pull this off is.
Stavr0s.
Although I am a Woman Beware My Blade For it is the Blade Of Righteousness.
And my Blade is raised in Honor of Xirtam
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Griss
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Posted - 2003.09.24 05:07:00 -
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Edited by: Griss on 24/09/2003 05:12:46
raindrop i to have heard this "gia" mentioned in refrence to "earth" i belive that this relates to a theory that the planet it self was living or at least had a spirit wich protected it. i know it sounds just as crazy to me.
i do find one thing interesting most of the people here decrying the existance of earth are ammar and minmatar perhaps they do not want to belive that they share a genetic ancestry.
i say that earth did or posibly still dose exist. and that the computer modles run by some are faulty. they can not factor in one thing the soul and spirit of a person. take us for example. i am shure that computer modles where run on earth after the colapse of the eve gate showing our ultimate distruction.
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You are all heretics.
All of you.
discorperation i know you wish to belive that "god" willed the ammar people in to being here in eve. i respect you as for what i have heard of you. but i say you are full of it. your ancestors came through the gate the same as mine.
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GFL Sisko
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Posted - 2003.09.24 11:35:00 -
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We have no idea of what happend after the big catastroph on the other side of the gate, the events we witnessed may have also happend there, maybe earth had a big draw back as our universe. so our technologi could be nearly of the same lvl or lvl of the jovian. about the 2 gate that havre to be repaired i am not sure that both of them havt o be repaired. maybe the earthling are bulding a gate that can open a wormhole which allows then to travel on both the side.
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Endyl
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Posted - 2003.09.24 12:56:00 -
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>I am sorry, Kelewan-san, but I do not believe
>Earth ever existed. It is a metaphor like
>Eden or Camelot, a symbol of "better days"
>lost due to human weakness.
You may be true, but something alway bothered me.
Jovians.
From the information I saw from the LINK, the source of the word Jovian, is Jove, a god worshiped by a ancient civilisation called the Roman Empire, who was in fact the god Zeus, worshipped by another civilisation called The Greeks.
I found no traces or informations about the origins and actual existence of those civilisations.
Another fact, is that Jovian, is the name given to the inhabitants of a planet called Jupiter, but again, almost no information about that planet was found, from our information, no planet in Jovian space got that name.
Any further information about this subject is welcome.
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Raindrop
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Posted - 2003.09.24 19:28:00 -
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Jupiter you say? *ponders an old childerens song*
nah can't be.
One of those famous myths in your piece of Eve possibly.
Maybe i should put some time aside and dive into this.
Raindrop |
Demerzel
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Posted - 2003.09.24 19:33:00 -
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Maybe some did see the "fall of the gate". you know what these politicians are like!
[ooc] dont you mean 'the fall of Trantor'?
lol azimov fans read my name....
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The fall of the gate was a scientific bug, no one saw it coming
Enough crash for you! (j/k)
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Tiberius Amzadee
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Posted - 2003.09.25 22:16:00 -
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Earth.....a name thats been haunting me along with the question of how and why the megnetic storms remained since the last of our ancesters passed through the Eve gate before it closed. Night after night of dreams as well as nightmares. Earth should not be out main consern,though I wonder along with my MinMatar brothers and sisters if it even exhists and if it does....Well...We are citizens of Eve now. I trust my dreams,and they tell me that something above us all is hidden out there in unknown space around us thats somehow connected to thoes storms. A force more powerful then even the Jovians and im afraid to say,but i hope im wrong,more evil and cold then the worst Amarrian slave master. |
Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.09.26 00:57:00 -
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During my education at Science and Trade, I stumbled upon an interesting old book. I don't remember the author's name, I'm afraid, but the text centered mainly on the scientific community's collective study into the origins of our species over the millenia.
The text lamented the loss of any archeological and paleontological records from our would-be planet of origin, but also used that loss--our current lack of any evolutionary links to our primitive ancestors, as possible proof that Earth did and perhaps still does exist.
We know from observing animal life that those species leave evidence of their prior, more primitive states deep in the dirt and rock, to be rediscovered, eons later, and as of yet, no such evidence of a more primitive form of man has been found. The conclusion? The earlier stages of our evolution began elsewhere.
In my travels, I often spend time simply exploring in the silent, dark reaches of unsecured space. Many times I have stumbeled upon planets, shimmering with the blue and green telltale colors of a life-supportive ecology, and I wonder: Is this Earth? Has this world been explored? And I sometimes find a world, its surface scarred and burned and baren, and I wonder, could this have been our birthplace?
If we did find Earth, would we even know?
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Kelewan
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Posted - 2003.09.26 01:42:00 -
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Edited by: Kelewan on 26/09/2003 01:44:16
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If we did find Earth, would we even know?
I hope that some stirring of my heart would tell me, but maybe i'm just being a sentimental fool. thanks for the point though!
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Lord Eidolon
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Posted - 2003.09.26 19:13:00 -
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I have spent many years of my life studying the ancient myths of Earth, or "The Mother World", as my ancestors liked to call it. Some of the most ancient of records and artifacts have been brought to my attention during some twenty-or-so years of archaeological surveys, geological and genetic research as well as Quantum Tachyon scans of the EVE anomaly.
My conclusion is this: that the evidence strongly supports the existence of Earth, although the exact nature of the society that originally evolved there is still open to much debate.
The most controversial of artifacts I have in my collection is what appears to be a data storage medium, that fits in the palm of one's hand. A crude inscription is etched on the surface of the device, but with no frame of reference, I have thus far been unable to translate it. It is my belief that this device could hold vital information on the origins of our distant ancestor, 'Homo Sapiens', or 'Knowing Man'.
Today, with spectacular Homo Sapien fossils emerging from Jove sites, it is my hope that soon the key to understanding this prehistoric culture will be found.
I would be very pleased to discuss my research if there is a potential audience of like minded anthropologists.
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Lord Eidolon
The COSMOS Corporation
"Your ignorance...amuses me."
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Adrial
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Posted - 2003.09.27 20:00:00 -
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I've descoverd something today, A mystic drink i have been consumeing, one that was called "tea" some point in time, but has since lost its name. It seems to have origins from our homelands!
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.09.28 05:50:00 -
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Quote:
I've descoverd something today, A mystic drink i have been consumeing, one that was called "tea" some point in time, but has since lost its name. It seems to have origins from our homelands!
There are even some high-ranking officials within Quafe Corporation who hint that their soft-drink recipe is...well...very very old.
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Kelewan
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Posted - 2003.09.28 15:03:00 -
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Has anyone noticed that Quafe tastes better when you add a little sugar?
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Moosche
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Posted - 2003.09.29 17:34:00 -
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Let us go to this earth and crush its remains... who's with me?!
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2003.09.29 18:48:00 -
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I long for the days when the EVE gatewill be repaired...Though it may be in a future i will not be alive in.
Excitement rises in me when i hear the name Earth... While not my home, it is the planet where my roots lie, where the roots of almost all intelligent life lies in this part of the universe.
Returning to it one day is a dream that may not be fullfilled, but it is a dream i will always have.
Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming! |
Grendal X
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Posted - 2003.10.01 12:52:00 -
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There must still be a part of earth in us all...for atoms are not destroyed..just rearranged.Our ancesters were purer than us...but even though we may be watered down with the atoms of our new worlds, We all still carry some part of Earth within us.
And we always will. |
Slithereen
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Posted - 2003.10.02 01:58:00 -
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Edited by: Slithereen on 02/10/2003 01:59:13
Any Amarr who believes in the myth of Earth should be considered a heretic and have his thumbs screwed till he or she confesses of heresy.
The thought that the perfection of the Amarrians and the Emperor should be descended from the primates of this planet is completely preposterous!
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"Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies,
"Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy.
"Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
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Kalr Makka
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Posted - 2003.11.07 00:41:00 -
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If the planet Earth had existed or still exists since the Gate collapsed, then wouldn't they have developed a method of reaching us, concidering the amount of time that has passed since the connection to the Old World was lost?
Kalr
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Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2003.11.07 05:02:00 -
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It seems to me that there is some truth behind this legend of "Earth". Consider:
- All races (possibly including the Jove), while coming from individual planets, can interbreed and are thus a single species.
- There are cultural similarities between the various races (how do you explain some subcultures of different races having similar languages, Tenrai-san?)
- All races have a similar legend of "Earth" - the ancestral homeland of humanity
These things make it clear that at one time there was a single civilization, lost in the depths of time, that spanned Eve. All of us are descended from that civilization, that "Earth". While it is entirely possible that "Earth" may be the name of a planet lost on the other side of the Eve Gate, I prefer to think that it is the name of the civilization which has spawned us all. There is no need, in other words, to go searching off into unexplored hypothetical space for the origins of humanity, they are all around us.
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Jim Hawkins
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Posted - 2003.11.07 10:24:00 -
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Some have said that Earth is a myth. I agree.
Why? Because its a ridiculous, stupid name is why!
Who I ask would name their home planet 'Earth?' It doesn't make sense, earth is just another name for soil, aka worm poo! So what these storytellers are saying is that our ancestral home is named after the excretia of worms!
Come on folks. We are a species that wander the stars. Wouldn't our clever and most brilliant ancestors have had a more imaginative and less offensive name for their home planet.
For the sake of argument, if we ever should make contact with this mythological planet. I for one would be most wary of causing offense by addressing its inhabitants as Dirtlings.
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NGRU Rix
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Posted - 2003.11.07 16:17:00 -
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If the planet Earth had existed or still exists since the Gate collapsed, then wouldn't they have developed a method of reaching us, concidering the amount of time that has passed since the connection to the Old World was lost?
Kalr
Who is to say they are not watching us now? If they do exist their technology would be thousands upon thousands of years beyond that of even the Jovians. Would they be pleased with what they see and hear? I wonder...
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Methar Oberon
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Posted - 2003.11.07 20:00:00 -
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Thats an interesting point. Cloaked ships we know the Jove have, and in thirteen thousand years I think our ancestors would have been able to make something even more advanced than cloaking devices. Perhaps ships that are there, but arent there?
However, the original planet of Earth is surely uninhabited by now as the natural resources of that planet would have been all but used up thousands of years ago. If the Earthlings do still exist, it is spread throughout their home galaxy.
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Fritz Ionar
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Posted - 2003.11.08 12:23:00 -
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Some have said that Earth is a myth. I agree.
Why? Because its a ridiculous, stupid name is why!
Who I ask would name their home planet 'Earth?' It doesn't make sense, earth is just another name for soil, aka worm poo! So what these storytellers are saying is that our ancestral home is named after the excretia of worms!
Come on folks. We are a species that wander the stars. Wouldn't our clever and most brilliant ancestors have had a more imaginative and less offensive name for their home planet.
Oh, but "worm poo" is a briliant and wounderful name of our comon ancestry. Just think about it from a slightly diffrent angle.
The greatest of forests, the greenest of pastures and the most colorfull of medows, they all spawn from "worm poo" and with out it there is no life.
And so I find "Earth" to be a most beutiful and poetic name of the idea that all the races of EVE where once one... And may be one again.
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CaptainJack Sparrow
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Posted - 2003.11.08 12:38:00 -
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When i got interested in the Caribean that my ancestor once sailed, i found out this:
Earth. Well, first of that was merely a nickname for Tellus. That's all i've heard of the name.
I haven't found anything in any database of the solar system named Sol. Evidently it was a rather small system since the historybooks don't seem to note it too much.
Blue Planet was once the name as well, for "Earth", as many called it, was mostly water.Somewhere around 70%(i think) of the surface was water.
But the most valuable evidence i found of earth was an old holoreel. I loaded it up on my ships computer and you can all take a look at it.
It proves, without doubt, that the projectile weaponry was well advanced even before they set out to space in any big manner. The date of the original "movie" is somewhere between the year 2000 and 2010.
http://www.roryroberts.com/images/Videos/MiniGun.wmv
If they had this then, what do they have now....
Also what intriques my mind is the fact that both "Earthlings" and Jovian are considered superior in their technology. Perhaps...
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