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Cpt Swagg
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:14:00 -
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What if CCP made an option that we could use to change a PLEX for unallocated SP?
For example, 30 days worth of SP.
Instead of going through the pain of waiting months just to fly a dam ship.
OR, create an activity in game that rewards SP, so we can grind them.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1017
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:16:00 -
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Nope Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á The Best Quote EVER Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Dave Stark
5174
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:16:00 -
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that already happens, it's called having an active subscription.
or the character bazzar. |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2286
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:17:00 -
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Cpt Swagg wrote:What if CCP made an option that we could use to change a PLEX for unallocated SP?
For example, 30 days worth of SP.
Instead of going through the pain of waiting months just to fly a dam ship.
OR, create an activity in game that rewards SP, so we can grind them.
Even by the ever declining standards of GD trolling, the OP is below par with this. This is not a signature. |

Adunh Slavy
1368
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:19:00 -
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Cpt Swagg wrote:What if CCP made an option that we could use to change a PLEX for unallocated SP?
Next they would have to install roller coasters in stations, to flesh out the rest of the theme park. Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21355
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:20:00 -
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No. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

Prt Scr
569th Freelancers Eternal Evocations
31
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:20:00 -
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the day they do that i stop subscription |

Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
693
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:23:00 -
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Prt Scr wrote:the day they do that i stop subscription This. Plex for SP would be quite bad.
Coreli Corporation: Small gang PVP & Drug Production, Apply now! |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
894
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:23:00 -
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Yeah I really need that PLEX to resculpt my horrible face, so I completely agree with PLEX for SP! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
189
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:24:00 -
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Cpt Swagg wrote:What if CCP made an option that we could use to change a PLEX for unallocated SP?
For example, 30 days worth of SP.
Instead of going through the pain of waiting months just to fly a dam ship.
OR, create an activity in game that rewards SP, so we can grind them.
Older players don't want this cause they will lose their power over noobs. Simple as that.
It is why all the suck in the gaming world gathers here. |
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Victor Andall
Heleneto Holdings
396
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:26:00 -
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I think this is not really that bad an idea.
Hell, you could buy ACTUAL Skill Books from the Nex store. That award skill points.
And maybe some sort of ammunition that does extra damage.
And is golden. I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
Andall Combat Tournaments - on hiatus. Contact for more information. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
894
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:32:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote:Cpt Swagg wrote:What if CCP made an option that we could use to change a PLEX for unallocated SP?
For example, 30 days worth of SP.
Instead of going through the pain of waiting months just to fly a dam ship.
OR, create an activity in game that rewards SP, so we can grind them.
Older players don't want this cause they will lose their power over noobs. Simple as that. It is why all the suck in the gaming world gathers here. You make sense?
Older players will as well just grind for SkillPoints, making your whole "argument" irrelevant. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2286
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:33:00 -
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Dear Arsine Mayhem, the following information may be of some help to you.
A frigate, for example, can only absorb a finite number of skill points before it is maxed out.
The max number of skill points which can be used to fly and fit a frigate applies if you are a relatively new player or if you are a player who has played Eve Online since the Beta.
Kind regards,
J D This is not a signature. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21355
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:33:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote:Older players don't want this cause they will lose their power over noobs. Simple as that. Because obviously the only thing that provides GÇ£power overGÇ¥ n00bs is SP and there is no way old players wouldn't benefit massively by such a change. 
No. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

Cuskus
Pandorica Unleashed Caps and Mercs
0
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:35:00 -
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This Topic comes up so much, and everybody has their own opinion.
Personally I go with a SP for Plex based on Loyalty.
You get to buy 10% of the skill points you trained over a 12 month period.
For Example.
You subscribe on January 1st 2014.
Between January 1st 2014 to January 1st 2015 you train 15 million Skill Points.
On January 1st you have the ability to purchase 1.5m Skill Points for a specific ISK amount.
Rewards players for keeping an active subscription. Stops people paying to get brilliant accounts without putting in the time. |

shimiku
Black VooDoo Asassins Cult of War
8
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:36:00 -
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ok here you go character bazaar and here is a dread pilot now you are on the same lvl as the rest of us and it also cost plex |

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3051
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:36:00 -
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Paying a PLEX to *reduce* someone *else's* SPs by a certain amount would be the only correct EVE way. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3700
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:39:00 -
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Vomitation *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

The Greenmachine Greenmachine
Green's Bicycle Shop
96
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:40:00 -
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Cpt Swagg wrote:What if CCP made an option that we could use to change a PLEX for unallocated SP?
For example, 30 days worth of SP.
Instead of going through the pain of waiting months just to fly a dam ship.
OR, create an activity in game that rewards SP, so we can grind them.
what are you suggesting doesn't make sense. you are suggesting to speed up training time from real time to instant. with the fact that time is the most valuable asset then the 30 days of SP to PLEX cost ratio would need to me MUCH higher like 10 PLEX for 1 month worth of SP. but even with that it would still be a bad thing for the game 0/10 |

Kaivar Lancer
Biological Mechanical Unlimited
494
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:42:00 -
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Under the current system, time = SP.
But as we all know, time = money.
So CCP should complete the equation and make money = SP. |
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Johan Civire
The Lyran Empire
847
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:46:00 -
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If the do that I want a refund of all my money I give ccp in the past 8 a 10 years. Because it will cost me less if I need to buy flex for sp. If the going to do that I stop eve forever. Pay to win is not a option. I even hate the plex but I can live with it. |

Dave Stark
5177
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:47:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:So CCP should complete the equation and make money = SP.
remind me how, currently, you can obtain sp without money. |

TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
620
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:48:00 -
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Cpt Swagg wrote:What if CCP made an option that we could use to change a PLEX for unallocated SP?
For example, 30 days worth of SP.
Instead of going through the pain of waiting months just to fly a dam ship.
OR, create an activity in game that rewards SP, so we can grind them.
Get the F out and go back to WoW. Dear lord, there would literally be no faster way to kill EVE. My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3701
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:51:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Kaivar Lancer wrote:So CCP should complete the equation and make money = SP. remind me how, currently, you can obtain sp without money.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qriM2FIRaXQ/UJ05Jcb3cvI/AAAAAAAAGlw/B1G4UFLUnF8/s1600/Money_It_Gets_Shit_Done_Meme.jpg *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
897
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:53:00 -
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My conclusion of this indeedly serious thread is...
Everybody likes my face. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Dave Stark
5177
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:55:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:My conclusion of this indeedly serious thread is...
Everybody likes my face.
i like it, because it reminds me that there's some one more ugly than me. that gives me hope. |

Adunh Slavy
1368
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Posted - 2014.04.28 14:00:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote: Older players don't want this cause they will lose their power over noobs. Simple as that.
It is why all the suck in the gaming world gathers here.
And what will stop older players, who have more money, from buying SPs?
The only thing that would stop them, as has been pointed out, any activity in Eve, has a maximum amount of SPs that can be applied to it by any one character at any one time. Thus, if you wanna pay to win, you get to drink the alt-koolaide. Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
18139
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Posted - 2014.04.28 14:12:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote:Cpt Swagg wrote:What if CCP made an option that we could use to change a PLEX for unallocated SP?
For example, 30 days worth of SP.
Instead of going through the pain of waiting months just to fly a dam ship.
OR, create an activity in game that rewards SP, so we can grind them.
Older players don't want this cause they will lose their power over noobs. Simple as that. It is why all the suck in the gaming world gathers here. Wrong, newbies already train skills faster, from the get go, than they have done in the past. I don't think you'll find many people who would say that it's a bad thing either, because the change that made it possible was beneficial to all, wasn't a p2w scenario, and got rid of a really annoying time sink.
Plex for , unallocated or otherwise, SP on the other hand is a p2w scenario, something a large percentage of subscribers do not want to ever see implemented in Eve, and I believe CCP themselves would be very cautious about even thinking of such a thing given the reaction they got last time.
Never go full Ripard |

Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
189
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Posted - 2014.04.28 14:15:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Dear Arsine Mayhem, the following information may be of some help to you.
A frigate, for example, can only absorb a finite number of skill points before it is maxed out.
The max number of skill points which can be used to fly and fit a frigate applies if you are a relatively new player or if you are a player who has played Eve Online since the Beta.
Kind regards,
J D
Which comes out to about a year of SP if you figure in Nav, Electronics, Engineering, Rigs, Armor, Shield, Spaceship Command, a lot of which are only trained to 4.
So yea, those 3 noobs you pwn in frigs, that's a real accomplishment for you.
Reminds me of the losers with full arena gear going into regular bg's in WOW.
You pwn dude. |

The Slayer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
101
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Posted - 2014.04.28 14:18:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Dear Arsine Mayhem, the following information may be of some help to you.
A frigate, for example, can only absorb a finite number of skill points before it is maxed out.
The max number of skill points which can be used to fly and fit a frigate applies if you are a relatively new player or if you are a player who has played Eve Online since the Beta.
Kind regards,
J D Which comes out to about a year of SP if you figure in Nav, Electronics, Engineering, Rigs, Armor, Shield, Spaceship Command, a lot of which are only trained to 4. So yea, those 3 noobs you pwn in frigs, that's a real accomplishment for you. Reminds me of the losers with full arena gear going into regular bg's in WOW. You pwn dude.
Thanks for confirming how awesome I am. |
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