Mournful Conciousness wrote:Nano Sito wrote:Rek Seven wrote:Yea and I sure would love to hear the lore reason why a bigger ship with presumably bigger/more advanced engines doesn't have the capacity to warp faster than a tiny frigate.
Well... generally speaking lighter=faster. Same reason why a neutrino or a photon are faster than more massive particles. Also, the energy needed to change the direction and/or accelerate an object is related to the mass of said object. One would argue that although the engine is bigger, it doesn't put out the required energy to make the ship warp at frigate speed.
IMHO, that's why CCP should buff up the large hyperspacial rigs SUBSTANTIALLY and/or introduce a low-med slot item that would increase warp speed so that you could fit them when travelling long distances.
The time taken to accelerate a body to a given velocity is a function of mass and force, as we all know. It is also evident from Einstein's work and physical observation that mass increases exponentially to infinity as velocity approaches C.
When a ship is in warp it apparently moves at between 2 and 11 AU per second - between 16 and 80 times the speed of light.
However, warping space does not involve the concept of "velocity" (i.e. distance along a vector over time) at all. If it did, the ship would require all the energy in the universe to reach 0.125AU/s. Before it got to that speed it would be emitting so much radiation that it would evaporate the solar system in which it was moving (not to mention the crew).
There is no reasonable case to correlate apparent spacial distance warped with mass.
There's even less of a case to correlate it with brain implants...
Indeed, mass has nothing to do with warp speed. Just like how the dreadnought catches USS Enterprise in warp, because its engine is more advanced and powerful than the smaller Enterprise. Realistic speaking, bigger ship should warp faster than smaller ship, but has lower velocity and align speed when using conventional engines compare to smaller ships because of the mass.
Back to topic. If the logic of "
SINCE EVERYTHING ELSE HAS PENALTY, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ADD PENALTY TO THIS MODULE AND WHATEVER ELSE THAT AFFECTS IT REGARDLESS OF ITS ORIGINAL DESIGN INTENT AND DRAWBACK" is what applies here in Fozzie's logic, then we should just add stacking penalty to everything else. Co-Processor, reinforced bulkhead, cargo expander, because somewhere in this tiny eve cluster someone is gonna find a way to make their ship too OP by stacking these things up and make everything else obsolete.
Add stacking penalty to people that fit their ship with multiple disruptor because it's OP and points two people instead of one.
Add stacking penalty to webs because if you put second web on a target it is literally standing still and therefore too OP.
Add stacking penalty to target paint because multiple target paint on one ship allows phoenix to blap my mining barges and therefore too phucking OP.
BTW. NOT ALL ASTRONAUTIC RIG HAS STACKING PENALTY BESIDES WARP SPEED. FOZZIE YOU SHOULD TRY PLAY THE GAME FIRST BEFORE YOU NERF STUFF.
(inb4 Fozzie adds them)
CCP Please, dont you have better things to do? How about that useless auto-targeting missile that nobody ever use? Tweaking things that is perfect the way they are doesn't make you look like you are working hard. Stacking modules makes the environment more diverse as the possibility for fitting ships become endless. Why? Because there is a reason to seek, experiment, and explore the best fit that will overcome your adversaries. Just because everyone's module is equally crappy doesn't make this game diverse.
Granted, if a player would fit different modules on the ship instead of stacking them, it would make the fitting diverse.
IT CERTAINLY LOOKS GOOD ON PAPER, NOT IN REALITY.
The reality is, if your ship doesn't out-stand in certain way when facing stronger opponents ie. blobs, you will have less chance of surviving and don't even think about killing or pvping. And that's why stacking module encourages certain fits although will do terrible at certain aspect, it will do very well in other aspect. And we use the strong point of the fit in hope to counter our adversaries.
And I'm very disappointed at Fozzie for what he said about CCP is really sorry about how our titan is gonna be less effective. It sounded very insincere toward the players coming from a dev. Very unprofessional, and disappointing.