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Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
213
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:22:00 -
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I think 5 million ISK or a free Iteron or Imicus isn't a big deal. Or if some noobie is having a hard time and losing frigates and getting frustrated replacing their frigate and better fittings and helping them out with suggestions of where things went wrong is OK.
In my example earlier someone gave me like 3 cruisers a bunch of other ships and at least 100 million ISK (it may have been even more. It was a long time ago so I forget the exact details). That is what made me really bored and what I would recommend against. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
826
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:51:00 -
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I think the best help one can give a new player is advice. If I kill a ship and see it was terribly fitted I'll often convo them. Sometimes you get the "I hate you... You're the devil" but most welcome the help. If I only got such help with my blaster, railgun, autocannon fit Cormorant lol |
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters Disturbed Acquaintance
7888
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Posted - 2014.04.29 19:09:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Eurydia Vespasian wrote:I received tons of money and ships and modules when I first started hanging out with other players socially. Still routinely get gifts and donations. I keep them all. Because this is eve. Are you actually female?.
Yes. And though the optimist side of me would like to believe that it was my intelligent wit and winning personality that earned me these gifts...the pragmatist in me tells me otherwise...and that my soft voice and vagina are responsible. But I won't complain. To tell the truth, without those gifts I might not have even stuck with the game. I didn't have a lot of direction when I started and it was only the people I had met and the fact I wasn't struggling along that made those first few weeks tolerable until I found my footing and decided on some long term goals to shoot for. |
Baaldor
In Igne Morim
245
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Posted - 2014.04.29 19:26:00 -
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Eurydia Vespasian wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Eurydia Vespasian wrote:I received tons of money and ships and modules when I first started hanging out with other players socially. Still routinely get gifts and donations. I keep them all. Because this is eve. Are you actually female?. Yes. And though the optimist side of me would like to believe that it was my intelligent wit and winning personality that earned me these gifts...the pragmatist in me tells me otherwise...and that my soft voice and vagina are responsible. But I won't complain. To tell the truth, without those gifts I might not have even stuck with the game. I didn't have a lot of direction when I started and it was only the people I had met and the fact I wasn't struggling along that made those first few weeks tolerable until I found my footing and decided on some long term goals to shoot for.
Unfortunately we have a large segment of the EvE population thinking by coming across a female in EvE is paramount to finding the holy grail. Although, you would think that if they went outside they would find a wondrous world of social interaction with a different chromosome designation.
However, in the time I had spent playing internet space pixels, I have found that most of the females have more balls than that of 90% of the nerds in EvE. They are much more aggressive (hot), have more grasp on getting things done and much more coordinated in which with their intense OCD tendencies, evens out their male counterpart autistic squirrel behaviors. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
437
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Posted - 2014.04.29 19:28:00 -
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Back in 04 me and two buddies came to eve from Earth and Beyond. One of my buddies was in jita, and an old beta char was quitting. He gave my boddy 100m isk. (we were like 1 week old) I got in too late but was given 50m, which at the time was a lot. I also have old players give me instructions. I tend to hand out iskies if someone needs it. Its why I tend to be broke. |
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters Disturbed Acquaintance
7897
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Posted - 2014.04.29 22:25:00 -
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Baaldor wrote:Eurydia Vespasian wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Eurydia Vespasian wrote:I received tons of money and ships and modules when I first started hanging out with other players socially. Still routinely get gifts and donations. I keep them all. Because this is eve. Are you actually female?. Yes. And though the optimist side of me would like to believe that it was my intelligent wit and winning personality that earned me these gifts...the pragmatist in me tells me otherwise...and that my soft voice and vagina are responsible. But I won't complain. To tell the truth, without those gifts I might not have even stuck with the game. I didn't have a lot of direction when I started and it was only the people I had met and the fact I wasn't struggling along that made those first few weeks tolerable until I found my footing and decided on some long term goals to shoot for. Unfortunately we have a large segment of the EvE population thinking by coming across a female in EvE is paramount to finding the holy grail. Although, you would think that if they went outside they would find a wondrous world of social interaction with a different chromosome designation. However, in the time I had spent playing internet space pixels, I have found that most of the females have more balls than that of 90% of the nerds in EvE. They are much more aggressive (hot), have more grasp on getting things done and much more coordinated in which with their intense OCD tendencies, evens out their male counterpart autistic squirrel behaviors.
it took a bit but once i had set on a purpose i pursued it relentlessly until achieving whatever that was and then just invented a new goal and repeated the process. and still doing that today lol. it's the only way i know how to play this game.
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Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
175
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Posted - 2014.04.30 02:30:00 -
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Hm, not really. I started with a few RL friends, so we helped each other for the most part. This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
2765
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Posted - 2014.04.30 03:38:00 -
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All I recieved as a new player was a number of -isk incidents that were finalized by CONCORD.
A few years after I Started playing I recieved a number of items from friends who quite and a hulk from one of the Black Rabbitts which I had to fly out of their home station
I have helped out new players much more than I have been gifted.
Farsiris Arbosa wrote:
P.S. This is NOT a plea for ISK, though. My phlosophies haven't changed; anyone who sends ISK for no reason gets it sent back....doubled
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ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve
1831
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Posted - 2014.04.30 03:40:00 -
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I got 100m from some guy once, but I wasn't that new Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
5239
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:32:00 -
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Freebies I've received included 10M in my first month, for simply asking intelligent questions, 1B ISK a few months ago for simply being on Twitter at the time, and a few free ships along the way ("I"m quitting, here have my stuff" or "I'm leaving EVE for a while, here hold my corporation for me.").
I've also had productive partnerships with mission-runners who got into battleships far too early and decided having a logistics pilot along to help complete missions faster was worthwhile. So I got a split of the mission rewards and salvage in addition to the bounties. That was an awesome income for me at the time.
In the recent past I have given away Noctises to wannabe salvagers, helped others run their missions, and even given away PLEX.
Why would you return donations?
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
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Alastair Ormand
Badger Badger Badger Apocalypse Now.
63
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:56:00 -
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I got a 30 million ISK donation when I first started playing from guys who barely knew me. Paid it back when I made enough by myself. |
Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
327
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Posted - 2014.04.30 08:08:00 -
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I got ganked one day hauling mission loot, maybe 2 months into my game, and a random duder at jita sent me 1bil and friendly advice |
Faenir Antollare
University of Caille Gallente Federation
258
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Posted - 2014.04.30 08:43:00 -
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I was a few weeks in and fully engaged in the ever riveting NPC corp chat when I announced that I had to take 5 so as to nip to the corner shop, some bad things happened in that brief 5 mins walk, not least of which I was the victim of a street robbery/mugging and was very very lucky not to be blinded (I wear spectacles and eventually had 11 stitches and some copious amounts of super glue administered). Anyways, I gets back home and tell's the Corpies I was previously engaged with that I had to go and would be back on the next day, one Corpie by the name of MailDroneTed (unsure if i am allowed to mention Peeps chars?) convo'd me to ask what was the problem was..I told him and apologized for dropping out of an event he had been busy instigating, does the A+E thing and probably 8 hours later I log back in only to find my account some 2.4B isk better off via 8 different benefactors.
I returned each and every Isk with a thank-you but no thank-you mail, wont ever forget that evening and I was truly humbled by the sentiments expressed by them Peeps.
'Tis a cold harsh world in New Eden at times but behind every char there is a Human soul and most of them in my experience are genuinely nice people.
Vive la Eve
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Valkin Mordirc
Abysmal Gentlemen Accidental War Dec - Will Fix
12
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Posted - 2014.04.30 09:01:00 -
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I start EVE in 11 with a different toon, completely new to the game and joined a random corp, the kinda corp that ruins a new players time. CEO was barely on and he was the most veteran of everyone in the corp. He had let in a couple random ***hats who were only a couple months shy of me, and they acted as though they knew everything about EVE, advocating things like duel tanking, mix guns, basical any fitting sin you could muster to think of. We got wardec and we got thoroughly smashed.
Basically quit the game, until my brother got me back into it, Joined with his corp and learned more about EVE, how to fit what to do during engagements, how to kite and so forth. Been a much much much more enjoyable time. We have active members, and everyone gets along wonderfully.
Since then, I've been pretty open with newbro's, if I happen to kill one are two, if they seem like decent players, who just manage to join the wrong corp, I'll send them a mail with advice on how to fit the ship they lost, and sometimes I'll even buy and fit up a new ship for them and contract it over, if it was near a trade hub.
I really hate it when I see corps like the one I started in. If you want to be a PVE carebear thats fine, just when PVP comes knocking and your CEO hasn't even tried to help you or give advice on how to avoid a ganker or Wardec'er I do my best to make them understand why they lost. I was in a wardec once and the CEO never logged in for the whole Dec. It was a pretty sad sight because the newbro's in the corp, they tried fighting back and lost horribly with ships that well...did not follow the EVE Fitting 101, if you know what I mean.
So if you are new to EVE, your find a corp that will teach you. Rather than use you for taxes. It's a pretty important step into EVE-Online and if you miss that step you're in for a rough ride. Psychotic Monk for CSM9 |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
829
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:56:00 -
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Baaldor wrote:Eurydia Vespasian wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Eurydia Vespasian wrote:I received tons of money and ships and modules when I first started hanging out with other players socially. Still routinely get gifts and donations. I keep them all. Because this is eve. Are you actually female?. Yes. And though the optimist side of me would like to believe that it was my intelligent wit and winning personality that earned me these gifts...the pragmatist in me tells me otherwise...and that my soft voice and vagina are responsible. But I won't complain. To tell the truth, without those gifts I might not have even stuck with the game. I didn't have a lot of direction when I started and it was only the people I had met and the fact I wasn't struggling along that made those first few weeks tolerable until I found my footing and decided on some long term goals to shoot for. Unfortunately we have a large segment of the EvE population thinking by coming across a female in EvE is paramount to finding the holy grail. Although, you would think that if they went outside they would find a wondrous world of social interaction with a different chromosome designation. However, in the time I had spent playing internet space pixels, I have found that most of the females have more balls than that of 90% of the nerds in EvE. They are much more aggressive (hot), have more grasp on getting things done and much more coordinated in which with their intense OCD tendencies, evens out their male counterpart autistic squirrel behaviors.
Being a female can have a huge advantage when it comes to getting free stuff in a MMO. You have some teenage boy who the only women he knows is Rosie Palm and then some random women says something he starts drooling all over the keyboard. I know many guys in WoW that create female characters just to get free stuff. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3822
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Posted - 2014.04.30 13:02:00 -
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Faenir Antollare wrote: a Human soul
a what? "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
1732
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Posted - 2014.04.30 13:20:00 -
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I always try to dump ISK and such on "legit" newbies. 25mil ISK is heug bank for the guy or gal barely spending 100k on ships. I was a "thing" to do back in the olden days, and it's one tradition I'd like to see live on.
Never know, the newbie you drop some spacegold on today, may be flying with you in 6 months....or heaven forbid, flying against you!
The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
Vol Arm'OOO
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
239
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Posted - 2014.04.30 13:29:00 -
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Everybody's play style is obviously different -- if you're fiercely independent and don't want help, good for you. But eve is intended to be an mmo. Hence, good relations with other players gives you a leg up over the independent types. When I first started out, I couldnt finish the soe epic and so I gave a shout out in local looking for someone to help me - two guys answered, helped me out, eventually becoming my eve mentors. Many years later, I have had a lot of folk throw me help from time to time - when I was young, pirates would on occasion replace the ships or give me isk to replace the ships that they blew up. Later a bud gave me a carrier and another a billion isk. None of it was asked for, it was just the result of people passing along their good fortune. I try on occasion to do the same. If I've killed a newer player and they not being an asshat, if I can ill give them isk or a replacement ship. Its always a good idea imo to pass it forward if you can. I don't play, I just fourm warrior. |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1432
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Posted - 2014.04.30 13:35:00 -
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I give isk from time to time on an alt who's still in his first npc channel. When the old fartGǪ sorry I mean "vets" keep their venom to themselves it's nice to see where some discussions are going and make me remember my first days in EVE with a smile.
When I think my donation is 'worth' it I plunk a few mil here and her on a noob with maybe a line attached to the donation like, trust no-one or making isk should not be a goal in itself, rabble like that.
The +5's that are still in my head originate from my first corp, and the chap in charge back then gave me my first Brutix with was for me an awful lot back then like 30 mil. Of course it died 3 missions in when I tried to 'heal' a rat by accident and concord whipped my rear.
Oh well, 4 more days to go and I'll probably whack it all in a freighter or two and give it to the closest noob I can find, then that will be that. |
Faenir Antollare
University of Caille Gallente Federation
261
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:13:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Faenir Antollare wrote: a Human soul
a what?
Hehe..I was alluding to the fact that there is in fact a real person behind that there avatar, "Human Soul" was a poor description and one that did me few favors xD |
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3832
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:24:00 -
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Faenir Antollare wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Faenir Antollare wrote: a Human soul
a what? Hehe..I was alluding to the fact that there is in fact a real person behind that there avatar, "Human Soul" was a poor description and one that did me few favors xD
Ah ok lol
Gotcha "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
2258
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:46:00 -
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I came on a buddy invite. The guy gave me 500m isk for subscribing.
My first corp, Suns of Korhal, helped me by letting me fly a fail arty hurricane on L4 missions with them just to share in the rat bounties. They didn't bother salvaging any of them, so I did that as well and they never asked for a cut. When we were wardec'd they offered me free ships. Great guys, especially Gulmint. Hope they are still doing well.
The guy I quote in my bio helped me too. But he helped me by blowing up my Venture and the free Genolution implant I got for subscribing. He showed me what an awesome game Eve is. "Its the pod I'm after. The ship is just a pod condom." -- Turgesson "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion |
BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
142
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:52:00 -
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2 Billion ISK my 3rd day in. Given to me... Hee Hee... |
Doireen Kaundur
Minmatar Republic
850
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Posted - 2014.04.30 20:10:00 -
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I got podded repeatedly. That taught me plenty. A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
854
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Posted - 2014.04.30 22:27:00 -
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My first "help" was someone taking a look at my ships fitting and setting it right (you know, basic things like "don-¦t dual-tank", "don-¦t mix guns", "fit a DCU"). And while I later got money donations as well, this simple advice was definitely more worth than the money. Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
Mangala Solaris for CSM 9
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Schminto
I Really Hate You Guys
1
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Posted - 2014.05.01 10:14:00 -
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I'm pretty new to the game myself, i've had a few people offer their assistance a few times which include:
Teaching me NOT to jump gate to gate in Nullsec.. FU bubble
Teaching me NOT to put up Transport contracts with the collateral value actually consistant with whats inside. FU guy that looks for low collateral contracts then just sits on them so they expire wasting my time.
Teaching me NOT to actually "help fund" any part of someone elses Corp. FU guy that talked me out of 500m and never logged in again.
Etc,etc,etc
Just a few helpful people that made me a smarter player. |
Farsiris Arbosa
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2014.05.02 04:28:00 -
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I'm the biggest IDIOT you will ever meet in your EVE career.
So for the first time ever, I accepted charity two days ago. 100 mil donation, I promised to pay it back with interest even though he said it wasn't necessary. It was more money than I had ever had, since in the five months I've played I haven't even made it to 100 mil in my wallet (No, I'm not joking). I spend my new money on a pretty Hurricane, and mission grind a little bit with it. After two days, the BRILLIANT idea to try ratting again, even though I had lost more ships than I can name to the activity in the past.
I lose the ship to three frigates.
After pouting like a little ***** for a bit, I run back to my friend like the codependent piece of **** that I and have him donate another 50 mil so that I can get another one.
Oh, but don't worry! I yielded a whole 300k from the rats! It'll be alright.
Am I worse than most people are at this game?
Anyway, in the mean time, enjoy a raised self-esteem knowing that useless people like me exist. You're welcome. Look at my sig, my sig is amazing |
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