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Apo Lyptica
Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2014.04.29 06:29:00 -
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Sentry drones currently dominate eve null sec pvp and pve. With the utilitarian and instant damage projection as well as the massive damage done by sentry (Ishtar?), the other classes of drones are pretty much null in void (Pun there). So how could CCP change the dronescape to give variety once more? How could CCP give drones the instant damage projection that sentry currently dominate at? Do I have anymore questions before my point?
Give drones Micro Jump Drives. Yes that's right, give drones a one way instant ticket to the glorious slug fest with splosions. With EVE's fight at range and sentry only topography giving drones a one way ticket to the slaughter fest would make all drones viable again. Mimicking the MJD of the battleship class these modules would have a cooldown, so you couldn't just send your Ogre II's after a poor fella and instantly have them return. Also limiting would be drone control range, something the Ishtar dominates at (I'm sick of Ishtars...). So you see, there's no real 'OMG WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT' reason to not do that. It gives ALL drones a viable place in the current eve AND it has its drawbacks, easier to pop heavies or if you can't get them back and warp off they're gone.
Imagine sending hoards of Ogre II's instantly after sniper zealots, the glorious affirmation of Gallente domination.  |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3722
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Posted - 2014.04.29 06:31:00 -
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Apo Lyptica wrote:Sentry drones currently dominate eve null sec pvp and pve.
And making them even more effective will change what? *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3131
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Posted - 2014.04.29 06:33:00 -
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Yeah, we need more ideas to buff Gallente. Hull rigs were a good start but I feel Gallente dominance is still not quite absolute. Oh god. |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
655
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Posted - 2014.04.29 06:36:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Yeah, we need more ideas to buff Gallente. Hull rigs were a good start but I feel Gallente dominance is still not quite absolute.
The new buffed rattlesnake is not Galla ... oh wait |

Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
2221
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Posted - 2014.04.29 06:40:00 -
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Apo Lyptica wrote: How could CCP give drones the instant damage projection that sentry currently dominate at? Bah, drones should be redone and given fitting slots much like player ships. Use the regular mods that players use, provided they train drone skills to use them. Whole nother level of ship fitting, much like the existing player ship fitting. The higher the meta level the more bandwidth needed. So yes, MJD, but also cloaking and other mods used by player ships. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21399
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Posted - 2014.04.29 06:41:00 -
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Apo Lyptica wrote:How could CCP give drones the instant damage projection that sentry currently dominate at? When you say Gǣhow couldGǥ, you first need to answer Gǣwhy shouldGǥGǪ
Yes, sentry drones dominate damage projection. So what? Why does that need to change? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3722
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Posted - 2014.04.29 06:44:00 -
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Webvan wrote: Whole nother
nope *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
2221
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Posted - 2014.04.29 06:49:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Webvan wrote: Whole nother nope Yep, may be a bit much for players to fugure out. Dang ebe is so complicating. Ad more death er depth to the rl game, heresy! heresy! heh Fricken grammer police these days, you think I'm writing a book? f-grammer, this is sparta! *kicks in well* |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3722
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Posted - 2014.04.29 07:07:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Webvan wrote: Whole nother nope Yep, may be a bit much for players to fugure out. Dang ebe is so complicating. Ad more death er depth to the rl game, heresy! heresy! heh Fricken grammer police these days, you think I'm writing a book? f-grammer, this is sparta! *kicks in well*
Spelling isn't grammar *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
2226
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Posted - 2014.04.29 07:09:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Webvan wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Webvan wrote: Whole nother nope Yep, may be a bit much for players to fugure out. Dang ebe is so complicating. Ad more death er depth to the rl game, heresy! heresy! heh Fricken grammer police these days, you think I'm writing a book? f-grammer, this is sparta! *kicks in well* Spelling isn't grammar Hah, you fell into that one Sherlock. 0/10, learn to troll. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3722
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Posted - 2014.04.29 07:11:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Webvan wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Webvan wrote: Whole nother nope Yep, may be a bit much for players to fugure out. Dang ebe is so complicating. Ad more death er depth to the rl game, heresy! heresy! heh Fricken grammer police these days, you think I'm writing a book? f-grammer, this is sparta! *kicks in well* Spelling isn't grammar Hah, you fell into that one Sherlock. 0/10, learn to troll.
As Im not trolling, Im not suprised I "failed".
Why don't you teach me, as you claim to do it so well? *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
2231
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Posted - 2014.04.29 08:11:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:
As Im not trolling, Im not suprised I "failed".
Why don't you teach me, as you claim to do it so well?
I claimed to be a troll? Now how can you make a living in forums as the grammar and spelling police [bad troll] if you cant even comprehend what you are reading? 
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3723
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Posted - 2014.04.29 08:24:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:
As Im not trolling, Im not suprised I "failed".
Why don't you teach me, as you claim to do it so well?
I claimed to be a troll? Now how can you make a living in forums as the grammar and spelling police [bad troll] if you cant even comprehend what you are reading? 
Welcome to the ignore gang
You are in good company with Salvos and DE *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
1135
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Posted - 2014.04.29 08:40:00 -
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Give MJDs to missiles too!
Would be awesome to see and it would render missile sniping useful. Signature Tanking - Best Tanking. Beware the french guy!
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3724
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Posted - 2014.04.29 08:51:00 -
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Altrue wrote:Give MJDs to missiles too!
Would be awesome to see and it would render missile sniping useful.
Actually, yes, that would be awesome
Id also like a T2 MWD-Equipped Bomb that took less that 10 seconds to do stuff, but :balance: I guess
Or magnetic mines
That's hot *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Borsek
A.A.A Trapped.
170
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Posted - 2014.04.29 09:07:00 -
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If OP eats any form of potato he/she is a cannibal. |

Barton Breau
University of Caille Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:14:00 -
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Apo Lyptica wrote:Sentry drones currently dominate eve null sec pvp and pve. With the utilitarian and instant damage projection as well as the massive damage done by sentry (Ishtar?), the other classes of drones are pretty much null in void (Pun there). So how could CCP change the dronescape to give variety once more? How could CCP give drones the instant damage projection that sentry currently dominate at? Do I have anymore questions before my point?
Could you please translate this from mittens-talk into something more substantial, for us dense carebears? |

BLACK-STAR
612
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:18:00 -
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Uhmm, wouldn't they jump 100KM out of your bandwidth, disconnect and die while you desperately paddle your boat over there to reconnect them?
- If violence does not solve your problem, you may not have used enough of it. |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
662
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:08:00 -
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BLACK-STAR wrote:Uhmm, wouldn't they jump 100KM out of your bandwidth, disconnect and die while you desperately paddle your boat over there to reconnect them?
Be worse if they fitted drones with cynos :D |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3741
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:17:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:BLACK-STAR wrote:Uhmm, wouldn't they jump 100KM out of your bandwidth, disconnect and die while you desperately paddle your boat over there to reconnect them?
Be worse if they fitted drones with cynos :D
Just had the mental image of a Drone Cyno activating and a pile of now-disconnected drones dumping out of Jump harmlessly all over a bemused fleet. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Sibyyl
551
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:19:00 -
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Our drones should have drones. They should be called Micro MachinesGäó. Take solace knowing that even after the sun sets, and your sky is filled with darkness, that the sun is still shining. -D. Entervention Psychotic Monk joins BNI |

Veld San
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:26:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Yeah, we need more ideas to buff Gallente. Hull rigs were a good start but I feel Gallente dominance is still not quite absolute.
It isnt. Thats why we fit shield tanks on our drone boats in case you missed the boat ....
o looky, I made a pun :)
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Elmonky
Titans of The Short Bus
10
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:33:00 -
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Drones should carry Aurora Ominae... one shot per drone that uses the drone up... also the ability to force your drones to kamikaze into other ships..... for lols and reasons.
Or you could have drones that explode like smart bombs..... wait those are bombs.... BOMBS FOR HIGH SEC! |

Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar E.A.R.T.H. Federation
440
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Posted - 2014.04.29 12:29:00 -
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The Rattlesnake should be able to use Fighters.
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stoicfaux
4664
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:34:00 -
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Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh. Gallente have railguns. Use specialized railgun launchers to launch drones at targets. No need for a complicated drone MJD. It's not frakking rocket science!
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3763
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:38:00 -
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Elmonky wrote: Or you could have drones that explode like smart bombs..... wait those are bombs.... BOMBS FOR HIGH SEC!
JUDITH: The first blow has been struck!
REG: Did he finish the slogan?
JUDITH: A hundred times, in letters ten foot high, all the way around the palace! *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Helena Heffalump
9
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:38:00 -
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only if missiles get micro jump drives too |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4844
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:00:00 -
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An MJD capable drone or module that does it.
I know not the implications but that would be interesting. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Marsha Mallow
409
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:27:00 -
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You should have to perform services for your drones, or they become self aware and awox you. Maybe have them giggle "silly pilot" beforehand etc
I think mine are already verging on it, they NEVER do what I tell them.
MJD bubbles would be fun too tho. TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
670
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Posted - 2014.04.30 07:30:00 -
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Helena Heffalump wrote:only if missiles get micro jump drives too
cyno missiles .... now we are getting somewhere |

Rhatar Khurin
Happy Asteroid Ltd
565
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Posted - 2014.04.30 10:10:00 -
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Give drones smartbombs i say. That'll be fun.... |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
672
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:08:00 -
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Rhatar Khurin wrote:Give drones smartbombs i say. That'll be fun....
Yeah that could work as well ... so long as your drones learnt to stay well away from each other. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
927
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:12:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Our drones should have drones. They should be called Micro MachinesGäó. When Mommy drone and Daddy drone met, they liked each other really well.
After a while, Mommy drone and Daddy drone liked each other even more!
They liked each other soooo soooo much for sooooo sooooooo loooooong that a few days later they had little baby drones Mommy and Daddy drone took care of.
And they loved them sooooooo much!
:D https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860
Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
265
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:14:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Apo Lyptica wrote: How could CCP give drones the instant damage projection that sentry currently dominate at? Bah, drones should be redone and given fitting slots much like player ships. Use the regular mods that players use, provided they train drone skills to use them. Whole nother level of ship fitting, much like the existing player ship fitting. The higher the meta level the more bandwidth needed. So yes, MJD, but also cloaking and other mods used by player ships.
Wait, you mean like the fitting slots that are needed to make the drone weapon platform shine as a primary platform, like drone damage amps, tracking links, drone control units for carriers, and drone range extenders for subcaps?
*facepalm* |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
927
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:16:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Webvan wrote:Apo Lyptica wrote: How could CCP give drones the instant damage projection that sentry currently dominate at? Bah, drones should be redone and given fitting slots much like player ships. Use the regular mods that players use, provided they train drone skills to use them. Whole nother level of ship fitting, much like the existing player ship fitting. The higher the meta level the more bandwidth needed. So yes, MJD, but also cloaking and other mods used by player ships. Wait, you mean like the fitting slots that are needed to make the drone weapon platform shine as a primary platform, like drone damage amps, tracking links, drone control units for carriers, and drone range extenders for subcaps? *facepalm* I always wondered why we can't have rigs that give us more fitting slots! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860
Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Erin Crawford
59
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:18:00 -
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or how about a fitting window to custom fit drones? |

Feng Chow
Mercenary Cooperative Conglomerate Angel Swarm Federation
39
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:22:00 -
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Maybe have all drones follow you in warp, not just fighters. Then you don't have to sit and wait while your Ogre II's waddle their way back you can just warp to the next location and continue. Could also have them follow targets that warp off.
I actually kinda like the idea of having a drone fitting panel, maybe on the side of the regular fitting panel that lets you use modules to customize your drones with abilities. Damage, range, and tracking should still be ship fittings, but some other small changes like faster return speed, remote rep for other drones (drone A takes a hit, drone B stops shooting target to rep drone A), and other things like that.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
675
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Posted - 2014.04.30 13:45:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Sibyyl wrote:Our drones should have drones. They should be called Micro MachinesGäó. When Mommy drone and Daddy drone met, they liked each other really well. After a while, Mommy drone and Daddy drone liked each other even more! They liked each other soooo soooo much for sooooo sooooooo loooooong that a few days later they had little baby drones Mommy and Daddy drone took care of. And they loved them sooooooo much! :D
My drones were adopted. |

Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
180
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Posted - 2014.04.30 17:07:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Webvan wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Webvan wrote: Whole nother nope Yep, may be a bit much for players to fugure out. Dang ebe is so complicating. Ad more death er depth to the rl game, heresy! heresy! heh Fricken grammer police these days, you think I'm writing a book? f-grammer, this is sparta! *kicks in well* Spelling isn't grammar Hah, you fell into that one Sherlock. 0/10, learn to troll. English dude, do you speak it?
Also OP, this is a very lame idea. Considering how drone control range can be changed, how do you plan to implement that into the MJD for your drones? Or would it be based on the unbonused value of your ship? but then what's the point in doing that at all?
Sounds to me like you need to train your drone nav skills up a bit. This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |
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