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Cpt Swagg
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:25:00 -
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This game is probably the worst I've experienced when trying to get people together and build a corporation.
There's literally no system in place to easily invite people to join your corp, or even to search for people that have no corp, or search for people that are looking for a corp,etc etc..
So many systems that could be implemented to make the recruitment process easier, yet this game has none.
No wonder there's so many 1 man corporations and people just go about on their own.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5515
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:26:00 -
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Because if people think Jita local is bad, wait until people can spam corp invites at each other. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Sher Rayet
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:27:00 -
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Corporate Chat Channels > Recruiting
Local Chat
Forums
Bio
Signatures |

Cpt Swagg
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:29:00 -
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Sher Rayet wrote:Corporate Chat Channels > Recruiting
Local Chat
Forums
Bio
Signatures
You call that a recruitment system?
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Ryann Padecain
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:33:00 -
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You mean you do not have a recruitment system? |

Flair Tachyon
Toon Invasion Terror Squad
28
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:33:00 -
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Also, every candidate can just send an extensive aplication.
Usually if People come to you by a public forum post or some corp search tool it-¦s a good indication you don-¦t want to have them in corp anyway. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3732
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:35:00 -
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Cpt Swagg wrote:This game is probably the worst I've experienced when trying to get people together and build a corporation.
What were the others and what systems that they used would you suggest CCP employ to improve this? *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Ryann Padecain
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:36:00 -
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Perhaps you should employ a headhunter, or have a bigger promotion regarding that your corporation is recruiting. |

Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch Heiian Conglomerate
756
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:37:00 -
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Cpt Swagg wrote:This game is probably the worst I've experienced when trying to get people together and build a corporation.
There's literally no system in place to easily invite people to join your corp, or even to search for people that have no corp, or search for people that are looking for a corp,etc etc..
So many systems that could be implemented to make the recruitment process easier, yet this game has none.
No wonder there's so many 1 man corporations and people just go about on their own.
and still there is corporations with thousands of members. |

Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
3436
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:43:00 -
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Cpt Swagg wrote: You call that a recruitment system?
Are you just trying to recruit people who don't give a crap about the corp or do you actually want to build a tight-knit community?
Because no tools will help you with the latter. |
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Victor Andall
Heleneto Holdings
417
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:53:00 -
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Implying one-man corporations exist solely because of a bad recruitment system and not because everyone can start one for essentially free. I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
Andall Combat Tournaments - on hiatus. Contact for more information. |

Freight Dee Kat
Dragonfire Industries Weyr Syndicate
2
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:58:00 -
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I guess the op has never seen the in-game corp-finding tool complete with Ads and selectable by type of corp you are looking for. Hmmm.
FDK
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Cpt Swagg
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:04:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Cpt Swagg wrote:This game is probably the worst I've experienced when trying to get people together and build a corporation.
What were the others and what systems that they used would you suggest CCP employ to improve this?
1. A player search feature showing you all players without a corp (npc corp)
2. The ability to set yourself looking for corp, so that you corps can search for you and send you invitations.
3. A proper invitation system with a set invitation message, right click invite to corp player X. Player X receives new invitation.
And so many others.. All implemented within the game, with filters and spam protection (can only invite X Player 1 time, can only invite npc corps players.
Invitations are sent as a notification (can easily be ignored)
Etc.. just a few examples. |

Mythrandier
Corporate Scum Cult of War
370
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:05:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Cpt Swagg wrote:This game is probably the worst I've experienced when trying to get people together and build a corporation.
What were the others and what systems that they used would you suggest CCP employ to improve this?
I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm willing to hazard a guess that the phrase "/2 spam" would feature highly on his list. "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." --á D. Adams. |

Talia Prime
Imperial Militia
26
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:06:00 -
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Cpt Swagg wrote: There's literally no system in place to easily invite people to join your corp, or even to search for people that have no corp, or search for people that are looking for a corp,etc etc..
No wonder there's so many 1 man corporations and people just go about on their own.
Hmm, because everyone would really like the endless 'Join my Corp' spam that comes with those searches!
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Uncle Traveling Matt
Dragonfire Industries Weyr Syndicate
33
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:09:00 -
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Cpt Swagg wrote: 1. A player search feature showing you all players without a corp (npc corp)
2. The ability to set yourself looking for corp, so that you corps can search for you and send you invitations.
3. A proper invitation system with a set invitation message, right click invite to corp player X. Player X receives new invitation.
1) There would be thousands and thousands of players listed 2) This is might be useful. 3) That would discourage player-to-player interaction/talking....probably the most important part of recruiting. If you're recruiting any joe blow that wants to be in a corp, you're doing it wrong.
UTM
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Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
701
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:14:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Because if people think Jita local is bad, wait until people can spam corp invites at each other. This.
Coreli Corporation: Small gang PVP & Drug Production, Apply now! |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3740
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:15:00 -
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Cpt Swagg wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:
What were the others and what systems that they used would you suggest CCP employ to improve this?
1. A player search feature showing you all players without a corp (npc corp) 2. The ability to set yourself looking for corp, so that you corps can search for you and send you invitations. 3. A proper invitation system with a set invitation message, right click invite to corp player X. Player X receives new invitation. And so many others.. All implemented within the game, with filters and spam protection (can only invite X Player 1 time, can only invite npc corps players. Invitations are sent as a notification (can easily be ignored) .
1) This would take FOREVER to update and would be quite a server drag. I dont imagine the kind of CEOs you have in mind want to trawl through untold thousands of bio-less alts to find the few nuggets they are looking for.
2) You can do that without a mechanism already. There's the thread, adverts and of course simply interacting with members of the corp you like the sound of. Its called research.
3) This already exists.
Also, can you answer my question of what the other games with better systems you tried were? *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Veld San
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:17:00 -
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Cpt Swagg wrote:This game is probably the worst I've experienced when trying to get people together and build a corporation.
There's literally no system in place to easily invite people to join your corp, or even to search for people that have no corp, or search for people that are looking for a corp,etc etc..
So many systems that could be implemented to make the recruitment process easier, yet this game has none.
No wonder there's so many 1 man corporations and people just go about on their own.
1 man corps have nothing to do with that, if you are asking about why they do not have a system such as those in other MMORPGs, well, that's a dev fail all around, from creating anti-social game model to almost paranoid background checks, again due to dev fail when it comes to providing environments and echo systems, etc.
There is simply too much at stake here if you invite the wrong person.
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Advanced Amateurs
1259
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Posted - 2014.04.29 12:06:00 -
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A Warp Disruptor II is an excellent tool to introduce potential recruits to our core business.  |
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Dave Stark
5192
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Posted - 2014.04.29 12:07:00 -
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there are plenty of ways.
they just don't want to join your corp, and adding mechanics to spam invites at people will change that. |

Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
3
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Posted - 2014.04.29 12:11:00 -
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OP probably doesn't know what "awoxing" means and why his idea would be bad because of this. 
Just Add Water |

Black Canary Jnr
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch. Sev3rance
103
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Posted - 2014.04.29 12:26:00 -
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WoW has a system like that. It's horrible, constant, cruddy, spam until you join a guild.
I like the way it is now, although the corp finder is just lol because of the crappy hi-sec corps claiming they do everything and ruining the game for new players. IMO you should have to choose your main area of space and playstyle. ie. Lowsec, FW. Low sec, piracy. Hisec, pve. 0.0, pvp. WH, pvp. Hisec, Merc. to stop the LOL adverts that make corp finder unusable. |

Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
3
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Posted - 2014.04.29 12:30:00 -
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Black Canary Jnr wrote:WoW has a system like that. It's horrible, constant, cruddy, spam until you join a guild.
I like the way it is now, although the corp finder is just lol because of the crappy hi-sec corps claiming they do everything and ruining the game for new players. IMO you should have to choose your main area of space and playstyle. ie. Lowsec, FW. Low sec, piracy. Hisec, pve. 0.0, pvp. WH, pvp. Hisec, Merc. to stop the LOL adverts that make corp finder unusable.
excuse me, guild?! c'mon man, really? Just Add Water |

Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
2179
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Posted - 2014.04.29 12:34:00 -
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Step 1) Go shoot at people Step 2) Recruit the people who have a good attitude about it Step 3) Repeat Step 4) Profit |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3752
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Posted - 2014.04.29 12:38:00 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:Black Canary Jnr wrote:WoW has a system like that. It's horrible, constant, cruddy, spam until you join a guild.
I like the way it is now, although the corp finder is just lol because of the crappy hi-sec corps claiming they do everything and ruining the game for new players. IMO you should have to choose your main area of space and playstyle. ie. Lowsec, FW. Low sec, piracy. Hisec, pve. 0.0, pvp. WH, pvp. Hisec, Merc. to stop the LOL adverts that make corp finder unusable. excuse me, guild?! c'mon man, really?
That is what Corps are called in WoW, yes *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Amber Harrington
Rubella Solaris Test Alliance Please Ignore
9
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Posted - 2014.04.29 12:39:00 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:Black Canary Jnr wrote:WoW has a system like that. It's horrible, constant, cruddy, spam until you join a guild.
I like the way it is now, although the corp finder is just lol because of the crappy hi-sec corps claiming they do everything and ruining the game for new players. IMO you should have to choose your main area of space and playstyle. ie. Lowsec, FW. Low sec, piracy. Hisec, pve. 0.0, pvp. WH, pvp. Hisec, Merc. to stop the LOL adverts that make corp finder unusable. excuse me, guild?! c'mon man, really?
WoW has a system like that. It's horrible, constant, cruddy, spam until you join a guild.
WoW has a system (....) until you join a guild.
WoW (...) guild. |

Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
4
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Posted - 2014.04.29 12:44:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:
That is what Corps are called in WoW, yes
Amber Harrington wrote:
WoW has a system like that. It's horrible, constant, cruddy, spam until you join a guild.
WoW has a system (....) until you join a guild.
WoW (...) guild.
omg, sorry, I guess I made a prejudice opinion when I saw the word "guild", I know I was a ****, apologies again... Just Add Water |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3752
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Posted - 2014.04.29 12:45:00 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:
That is what Corps are called in WoW, yes
Amber Harrington wrote:
WoW has a system like that. It's horrible, constant, cruddy, spam until you join a guild.
WoW has a system (....) until you join a guild.
WoW (...) guild.
omg, sorry, I guess I made a prejudice opinion when I saw the word "guild", I know I was a ****, apologies again...
Its all cool man
WoW does suck, after all and those of us who suffered on that hateful planet for our sins must carry its taint with us for the rest of our lives
I know your feel, bro *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Lucretia DeWinter
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
140
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Posted - 2014.04.29 12:55:00 -
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Cpt Swagg wrote:
1. A player search feature showing you all players without a corp (npc corp)
2. The ability to set yourself looking for corp, so that you corps can search for you and send you invitations.
3. A proper invitation system with a set invitation message, right click invite to corp player X. Player X receives new invitation.
And so many others.. All implemented within the game, with filters and spam protection (can only invite X Player 1 time, can only invite npc corps players.
Invitations are sent as a notification (can easily be ignored)
Etc.. just a few examples.
1. A silly amount of call requests as hundreds of people join and leave these corps every second. You want to spam people with invites, do some legwork: here you go, Gallente Noob Corp Federal Navy Academy members: http://evewho.com/corp/Federal+Navy+Academy
2. Nobody would pick you up, except people who will invite you, ask you to come help their mining operation in your Orca and then kill you. Or that's your plan for them, and they know it, and won't invite you. Useless.
3. This is exactly how Corp Applications and Corp Adverts work now inthe Corp Tab on the NEOcon.
I think you're making an issue out of nothing. Corp Recruitment works just fine. Let's look at it from the other end - what is your desired outcome here? Get 100's of clueless newbies to crap up your corp channel with the same questions over and over and over and over... Or scam clueless naives into your corp to um "help them" relocate all their worldly goods to your home station? What do you want to do specifically that you feel you can't? |
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