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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:52:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:You know what's stupid? How researching the first level is equal to researching all levels after that.
That, and your post.
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.02 12:39:00 -
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Jack Mayhem wrote:I agree with Shoogie on all accounts. This is badly thought idea regarding long-term BPOs.
It also removes choice and makes ALL BPOs the same. Before when entering new area of production, there was some excitement, check the BPOs on chruker website, decide what will be optimal, decide how I will spend my time between researching and building, etc. Now: every single battleship and below BPOs will be perfect ME10, capitals ME 7 (except old ones of course). So much for complex game. Even setting up PI will take more effort.
I have built all things except supercaps, will see how new system works out and if it's too dumbed down, no reason to play the game anymore.
you still have to optimize research v building, literally the only part that required independent thought instead of just consulting outside calculators that did everything for you because the system as implemented was too obtuse to calculate without them
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.02 20:31:00 -
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Shoogie wrote:
Look at a titan blueprint. There are probably a few ME5 titan blueprints out there. There are certainly a few ME4 blueprints out there, and quite a few at ME3. On patch day, everyone with an ME5 blueprint automagically gets an ME 9% blueprint. Everyone with an ME4 blueprint gets handed an ME 8% blueprint. Everyone with an ME3 blueprint gets an ME 7% blueprint.
So in the future some upstart wants to challenge the null sec status quo. They buy a blueprint and research it for 8 months before starting to build. Assuming Metallurgy 5, they will end up with an ME 6% blueprint. The existing blueprints needed to be researched too, so this is fair so far.
However, when they try to get level 7% to match the existing blueprints, they are going to get a quote that says this job is going to take an additional 10 months, 25 days. If they are silly enough to do this, they will see that level 8% takes an additional 2 years and 48 days. If they are silly enough to do that, level 9% will take an additional 5 years 25 days. If they are silly enough to do that, level 10% will take an additional 12 years 14 days.
this is all true, but i believe it's more evidence that the proposed scaling for research on titans is obscene
the scaling may just be a little too harsh on the high end overall but it's only with supercaps that it goes from harsh to impossible
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.06 22:08:00 -
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Shoogie wrote:
mynnna, you really need to learn reading comprehension.
virtually anytime some pubbie says this it's because their argument has been blown out of the water and so their only response left is to stick their fingers in their ears and keep repeating their argument and ignoring the gurgling sounds as everyone on their ideaship drowns and suffers a horrible death until the intelligent people tire and leave
your post is no exception
Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
7296
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Posted - 2014.05.06 22:14:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:The stated goal was to remove unnecessary complexity....
Well, they could have done the EXACT SAME THING by changing ME from int to float, and hiding it behind the UI.
thats stupid and adds additional complexity while making the UI lie to you and is basically the worst idea so far
Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.06 22:16:00 -
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DireNecessity wrote:
As always, the devil is in the details . . .
Weaselior, care to toss out a purely speculative number of what a sane Titan BPO research to perfect time would be? 6 months? 2 years? The idea being that we start with the top end and build research rank times down from there.
T'would be sweet to discover that there's less dispute about the end goal than initially thought.
Probably 3 years or so. It's a pretty tiny benefit and so there's no real need to make it completely infesible to get there.
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