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Daerrol
Lumen et Umbra
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:27:00 -
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Hi
Tryibg to learn the AC Wolf. Any fits? Anything to avoid? I fought vexor last night and was demolished by med energy vamp drones (saar turned off D-:) Any help for next time I fight a vexor? The war is only a day old. I am hopong for a rematch. |
Starbuck05
Griffon Squad
210
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:41:00 -
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Hi its me lol..now its my time to teach you mister " learn pvp fundamentals"
You don't take on a vexor with a wolf ..but if you must then kiting it is your only option. 270 arty, mwd point , dc2 gyro te sar nano and speed rigs.
If u still go ac fit , no matter how the vexor is fit ur not gonna win.
Most cruisers have it tough againsts a competent vexor pilot 1v1
The wolf is a good ship but its downfall is the lack of a third mid for either a web or cap booster.
If you wanna goe toe too toe AF vs cruiser , then either use arty wolf like above, ishkur with cap booster or vengeance with cap booster , or kitey hawk.
-á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir !
-á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ?? |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.04.29 19:52:00 -
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Starbuck05 wrote: 270 arty,
280's didnt fit? |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.04.29 22:26:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Starbuck05 wrote: 270 arty, 280's didnt fit?
270s are actually sawed-off 280s.
You can get them for 20 AUR a pop and they're deadly! |
Zarnak Wulf
In Exile.
Imperial Outlaws.
1661
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:54:00 -
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Maddie Sivlerburg flies a mean Wolf. Check her killboard for fits. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
2092
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Posted - 2014.04.30 02:55:00 -
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Use t1 frigs
Its quite hard to get fights in AF's that aren't stacked horribly against you.
Also learn to scramkite.
BYDI recruitment closed-ish |
Lugia3
Emerald Inc.
Easily Excited
939
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Posted - 2014.04.30 04:02:00 -
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1. Don't fly an AC Wolf. Use arty.
2. Don't fight vexors with your frigate.
"CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik |
Hrett
Justified Chaos
371
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:02:00 -
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Wait - did he say someone used neut drones?
I thought they were a myth - like unstabbed caldari frigates and and Justified Chaos tech 2 fits...
I'm probably typing on an iPad, which means the auto-correct is silly and fixing typos is a pain. I ain't fixing them. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
2092
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:13:00 -
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AC wolf is fine.. don't be bad.
BYDI recruitment closed-ish |
Artuard Envien
Black Fox Marauders
Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.04.30 09:59:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:Maddie Sivlerburg flies a mean Wolf. Check her killboard for fits.
Checked her/his killboard. Last wolf lost to a solo breacher.
Which begs the question, is that wolf really that mean or is the beacher out of ballance?
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.04.30 10:07:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:Use t1 frigs
Its quite hard to get fights in AF's that aren't stacked horribly against you.
I've really just started to solo roam in AFs, but so far (in Gal-Cal warzone) I got a couple of AF 1v1s and a couple of 1 AF v 3-4 T1 frigs, which is risky but doable. |
Aimy Maulerant
Coreli Corporation
Ineluctable.
28
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:01:00 -
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AF's can take on cruiser no problem my personal favourite is the enyo, used the wolf and loved but the enyo excels so much more.
took on 2 of them but just didnt have enough to kill the 2nd one as my shields were gone from the first cruiser
https://zkillboard.com/kill/38252748/ |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
Heiian Conglomerate
758
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:14:00 -
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Artuard Envien wrote:Zarnak Wulf wrote:Maddie Sivlerburg flies a mean Wolf. Check her killboard for fits. Checked her/his killboard. Last wolf lost to a solo breacher. Which begs the question, is that wolf really that mean or is the beacher out of ballance?
balance is not so clear thing
Noob ships killed battleship, is that balanced? |
Trinkets friend
Goat Sects
1403
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Posted - 2014.04.30 13:04:00 -
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Daerrol wrote: I fought vexor last night and was demolished by med energy vamp drones (saar turned off D-:)
Dude, don't be disappoint. This is a one in a million event when someone uses EWAR drones aside from ECM. It won't happen again.
Join the cult of Goat Sects
@_@
http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance
Team Amarrica
321
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:13:00 -
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[Wolf, DARKSTAR POWNYOUALL's Wolf]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Centii A-Type Small Armor Repairer
Centii A-Type Explosive Plating
1MN Afterburner II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
Small Nosferatu II
Small Anti-Kinetic Pump II
Small Projectile Burst Aerator II
This guy usually fly's his wolf's with legion and loki links but its the best damn AC fit i come across. |
Artuard Envien
Black Fox Marauders
Repeat 0ffenders
2
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:27:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:Artuard Envien wrote:Zarnak Wulf wrote:Maddie Sivlerburg flies a mean Wolf. Check her killboard for fits. Checked her/his killboard. Last wolf lost to a solo breacher. Which begs the question, is that wolf really that mean or is the beacher out of ballance? balance is not so clear thing Noob ships killed battleship, is that balanced?
I don't really want to derail this thread Bad Messenger, but yeah, from my experience breacher at the moment is op compared to many other t1 and t2 hulls.
Back to the wolf ( or even Jag ), can't say this is a attractive assault frigate choice. No matter what fits I tried. |
Starbuck05
Griffon Squad
215
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Posted - 2014.04.30 16:07:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Starbuck05 wrote: 270 arty, 280's didnt fit?
My bad .. im a human beeing i make mistakes :p
-á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir !
-á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ?? |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
2095
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Posted - 2014.04.30 18:57:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:Use t1 frigs
Its quite hard to get fights in AF's that aren't stacked horribly against you. I've really just started to solo roam in AFs, but so far (in Gal-Cal warzone) I got a couple of AF 1v1s and a couple of 1 AF v 3-4 T1 frigs, which is risky but doable.
Not saying you can't solo in an AF.. You just generally have more fun in a t1 or navy frig.
BYDI recruitment closed-ish |
Trinkets friend
Goat Sects
1406
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Posted - 2014.05.01 07:12:00 -
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What he means is, more fun per million ISK. Your ship might* be a bit more wobbly and weaker than an AF but it automatically saves you 20M ISK each time some douchebag drops Inquisitor EV-600's on you (like, seriously I cannot get over this) and hands you your buttocks.
Besides which, some T1 frigs simply outperform AF's at certain tasks. Double-damp Condors are better at kiting like an annoying douche, etc.
Join the cult of Goat Sects
@_@
http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
2097
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Posted - 2014.05.01 11:02:00 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:What he means is, more fun per million ISK. Your ship might* be a bit more wobbly and weaker than an AF but it automatically saves you 20M ISK each time some douchebag drops Inquisitor EV-600's on you (like, seriously I cannot get over this) and hands you your buttocks.
Besides which, some T1 frigs simply outperform AF's at certain tasks. Double-damp Condors are better at kiting like an annoying douche, etc.
Also t1's aren't as scary, hench people are more likely to try and take you on.
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Hrett
Justified Chaos
374
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Posted - 2014.05.01 15:12:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:Trinkets friend wrote:What he means is, more fun per million ISK. Your ship might* be a bit more wobbly and weaker than an AF but it automatically saves you 20M ISK each time some douchebag drops Inquisitor EV-600's on you (like, seriously I cannot get over this) and hands you your buttocks.
Besides which, some T1 frigs simply outperform AF's at certain tasks. Double-damp Condors are better at kiting like an annoying douche, etc. Also t1's aren't as scary, hench people are more likely to try and take you on.
This.
Taranis engages my breacher outside of station. I am certain he was licking his lips in anticipation. He dies horridly. Afterwords, he says 'I haven't logged on in 4 years and I get killed by a ******* breacher!?! That's what I get." I was kind enough to tell him of the balance passes and buffs and the fact that I just happened to have nova loaded. I hope it made him feel better, but I am not sure it did. Regardless - I would not have gotten this fight in an AF.
And the breacher is pretty baller right now. I'm not ready to say it is OP, but I've gone 3-1 in them so far. Killed crow, taranis, comet. Lost to comet who would have died if I have nova loaded or I hadn't been cheap and used navy cap boosters like I should have. I did get lucky in a couple of those fights, though (newer player, returning vet, and crow who was in web and scram range). We will see. Unlike the rail Incursus, you are hosed if you are pointed past ~15k, but otherwise it seems just as good plus you are faster and have selectable damage...
I'm probably typing on an iPad, which means the auto-correct is silly and fixing typos is a pain. I ain't fixing them. |
Daerrol
Lumen et Umbra
3
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Posted - 2014.05.01 15:20:00 -
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ok thanks for info about breachers.....
If no one can give af tips can some one at least address frigate vs cruiser strategy? Do i go for drones first then try to get under guns? I realize it is all situational by my life seems.more and more to be putting me into brawler frigate vs cruiser situations. |
Hrett
Justified Chaos
374
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Posted - 2014.05.01 15:34:00 -
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Daerrol wrote:ok thanks for info about breachers.....
If no one can give af tips can some one at least address frigate vs cruiser strategy? Do i go for drones first then try to get under guns? I realize it is all situational by my life seems.more and more to be putting me into brawler frigate vs cruiser situations.
Vexors eat frigates alive. AFs too. Don't fight them solo in a frigate unless the guy is a noob. You probably should not mess with arbitrators either. Thorax is close - tracking bonus and a good pilot or dual webs (or neut drones!) will hose you. Caracal and Bellicose too if it is RLML fit. Anything else is worth a shot. Get under their guns, kill drones, then kill cruiser. Ships with a utility high - like rupture or stabber, might have a neut, so watch animations and gtfo if you see one. I don't fly Wolfs or Jags, but a Jag can fit a mean passive shield tank and has capless weapons, so you might be able to fight under neuts for a while. Not sure.
And seriously, you will probably never see neut drones again, so don't sweat that. (Though because of your story, I will be carrying a flight in all of my Vexors from now on!)
I'm probably typing on an iPad, which means the auto-correct is silly and fixing typos is a pain. I ain't fixing them. |
Daerrol
Lumen et Umbra
3
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Posted - 2014.05.01 15:38:00 -
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Hrett wrote:Daerrol wrote:ok thanks for info about breachers.....
If no one can give af tips can some one at least address frigate vs cruiser strategy? Do i go for drones first then try to get under guns? I realize it is all situational by my life seems.more and more to be putting me into brawler frigate vs cruiser situations. Vexors eat frigates alive. AFs too. Don't fight them solo in a frigate unless the guy is a noob. You probably should not mess with arbitrators either. Thorax is close - tracking bonus and a good pilot or dual webs (or neut drones!) will hose you. Caracal and Bellicose too if it is RLML fit. Anything else is worth a shot. Get under their guns, kill drones, then kill cruiser. Ships with a utility high - like rupture or stabber, might have a neut, so watch animations and gtfo if you see one. I don't fly Wolfs or Jags, but a Jag can fit a mean passive shield tank and has capless weapons, so you might be able to fight under neuts for a while. Not sure. And seriously, you will probably never see neut drones again, so don't sweat that. (Though because of your story, I will be carrying a flight in all of my Vexors from now on!)
Thanks mate. I wouldnt put toonmuch faith in what I say I am pretty nub but those ev drones ate up cap pretty fast. |
Aimy Maulerant
Coreli Corporation
Ineluctable.
29
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Posted - 2014.05.01 15:52:00 -
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you could try using a nos, i use one in most of my assault frigs with an armor repper and has worked wonders against big ships |
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