Originally by: Arkanor

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Originally by: Panaka

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I'd buy them from eve online. Traditionally I spend anywhere between 100 and 150,000 dollars a year in gametime codes..
That's the kind of volume I was doing in ultima online.

I'm looking to do more in eve online.

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Originally by: Kerushi

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selling isk can get u banned

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Originally by: Donna Divine

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Edited by: Donna Divine on 20/05/2006 20:14:02

150K usd in gametime you'd be willing to turn into isk ?

Is that your money or money you'd be turning into isk from other players that want to aquire isk. Are you brokering or actually buying here ?

If it's the latter, CCP is gonna put a stop to it no doubt. There's no official limit atm, but i do happen to know they don't like excesses in RMT, and this would be an excess.

If it's brokering, I'd again doubt they'd let you do it unless you'd be making a profit measured in isk, not dollars.

Even if the profit is measured in isk, I'd ask them and make sure to get a final answer from a dev before doing this. There's some chance of them going along with a profit emasured in isk, but they'd no doubt put you on a watchlist of some kind for their GM's to make srue you don't go and turn that isk into dollars again someway.

Actually, I;m gonna forward this thread to the dev i had contact with regarding this RMT issue some time ago to see what he and his colleagues think about it. It's actually something I thought would happen sooner or later. -'m betting they are not going to like it however

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Originally by: Eximius Josari

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Eventually, EARTH will offer gametime codes as rewards for meritorious service. However at this time we do not have the resources to expend on things not immediately tenable.

But, in the future, we may be someone to inquire with.

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Originally by: DukDodgerz

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Originally by: Panaka

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Hey folks,
I appreciate any help anyone can give me :)
Thanks guys

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This guy is a classic isk (gold) seller.

CCP please ban the account and refuse to allow this scum to remain in the game.

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Originally by: DukDodgerz

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Originally by: Panaka

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Originally by: Arkanor

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Originally by: Panaka

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I'd buy them from eve online. Traditionally I spend anywhere between 100 and 150,000 dollars a year in gametime codes..
That's the kind of volume I was doing in ultima online.

I'm looking to do more in eve online.

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I know..it seems like a lot..but I'm content making like 1-2$ on a deal. Which with a good reputation and fast service usually tends to dominate the market.
But again I'm just getting into eve so I have to do some lookin around first hehe

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admits to selling the isk for real life cash, ban this scum please!

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Originally by: Donna Divine

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Edited by: Donna Divine on 20/05/2006 20:31:06

Originally by: Panaka

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What's RMT?

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RMT is the acronym for Real Money Trade often used to refer to the trading of virtual items for real currency or real services.

Turning dollars into isk in Eve is only half legal. It's an informal system so far, and it's one that will be either abruptly cut off or rapidly formalised as soon as people start making real money off of it.

The intent is to allow limited trading of money for isk, not the earning of money by the trading of isk, which would be what brokering against real money comission amounts to.

If your comissions indeed consist of non-virtual currency, non-virtual services or other non-virtual things, you're indeed in for a ban.

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Originally by: DeODokktor

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You ****** *** **** *******.
I hope you *** **** and ******* ***.

But beyond that..
You are a ******* for thinking you can go to the PUBLIC FORUMS ON CCP'S WEBSITE AND SAY that you want to break the t&c.

I am sure it happens but for you to say it here.. ***..

Please excuse the *'s .. I have got a forum ban warning for calling someone a ******* *******.

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Originally by: Donna Divine

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Besides the point I already raised, the below is most likely true as well. Alliances and other big groupings within this game tend to consist of longer time and more involved players that do in general frown upon the purchasing of isk. A broker with your intentions has little chance of gaining favour with them.

Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui

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alliances in this game will just want to pod your lame ass repeatedly in this game for this type of behaviour

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Originally by: Donna Divine

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No, I don't sell timecodes for isk.

I'm just someone that's played MMORPG's for a long time already and is interested in the general issue of money for virtual goods. The solution used by CCP is one that is rather unique so far, but still in development as far as I am aware.

I'm not getting flamed because I don't express the wish to capitalise on an opportunity to mix the virtual with the non-virtual. People tend to dislike people expressing that wish in most MMO's. Eve is most certainly not an exception.

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Originally by: Donna Divine

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I'm not sure it'll be fast :p
The guy I contacted tends to be rather busy I reckon.

But I;m sure someone else will get a word in here, they can hardly afford not to.

The reason they allow it a little is to be sought in CCP's nature. CCP often prefer pragmatism. A 100% against stance takes alot of effort to enforce, and even then no single MMO title ahs ever succeeded in enforcing it to a large nough extent to make it a non-issue to it's subscribers.
However, a 100% allowed stance it against the things CCP hold dear.

So what they;ve come up with is a method that on one hand allows limited RMT, yet on the other works to actually force the more traditional gold faremrs out of buisiness slowly. Or at the very leat the least effective of them. And the most effective they might actually catch the old fashioned way.

To see what i mean check the prices for isk at for example IGE and compare to what a gametime card gets you ingame.

Doing it 'legally' actually nets you more isk for your cash as a buyer That's a pretty unique economic approach to the issue I'd say.

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