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Panaka	Posted - 2006.05.20 19:58:00 - [1] Hey folks, I'm sure many of you don't know me..but those of you who've played UO in the past probably do. I was a very big deal broker in that game, and now it's basically dead. I've been playing eve for a few months now and Lovveeee! it. I'm basically going to be looking to start supplying alliances with gametime cards for in game credits. My question is this: What's a good way to get in with some of the larger alliances, how do I get in touch with their leaders/founders, and should I bother setting up a website? Any help would be appreciated. I can be reached ICQ 60323833 or in game under my tag DoranM. I appreciate any help anyone can give me :) Thanks guys GorgeousGamers.com - Rate Fellow Eve Players Pictures!
Donna Divine	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:01:00 - [2] Where do you aquire your gametime cards ? Do you buy them for real money or are you looking to trade time bought for isk against isk again, making a profit in isk along the way ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gilded Goose Brokerages Trading to order.
Panaka	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:06:00 - [3] I'd buy them from eve online. Traditionally I spend anywhere between 100 and 150,000 dollars a year in gametime codes.. That's the kind of volume I was doing in ultima online. I'm looking to do more in eve online. GorgeousGamers.com - Rate Fellow Eve Players Pictures!
Arkanor	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:08:00 - [4] Originally by: Panaka I'd buy them from eve online. Traditionally I spend anywhere between 100 and 150,000 dollars a year in gametime codes.. That's the kind of volume I was doing in ultima online. I'm looking to do more in eve online. ________________________________________________ \_/ <-- My care cup, LOOK it's empty!
Donna Divine	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:10:00 - [5] Edited by: Donna Divine on 20/05/2006 20:14:02 150K usd in gametime you'd be willing to turn into isk ? Is that your money or money you'd be turning into isk from other players that want to aquire isk. Are you brokering or actually buying here ? If it's the latter, CCP is gonna put a stop to it no doubt. There's no official limit atm, but i do happen to know they don't like excesses in RMT, and this would be an excess. If it's brokering, I'd again doubt they'd let you do it unless you'd be making a profit measured in isk, not dollars. Even if the profit is measured in isk, I'd ask them and make sure to get a final answer from a dev before doing this. There's some chance of them going along with a profit emasured in isk, but they'd no doubt put you on a watchlist of some kind for their GM's to make srue you don't go and turn that isk into dollars again someway. Actually, I;m gonna forward this thread to the dev i had contact with regarding this RMT issue some time ago to see what he and his colleagues think about it. It's actually something I thought would happen sooner or later. -'m betting they are not going to like it however ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gilded Goose Brokerages Trading to order.
Panaka	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:10:00 - [6] Originally by: Arkanor Originally by: Panaka I'd buy them from eve online. Traditionally I spend anywhere between 100 and 150,000 dollars a year in gametime codes.. That's the kind of volume I was doing in ultima online. I'm looking to do more in eve online. I know..it seems like a lot..but I'm content making like 1-2$ on a deal. Which with a good reputation and fast service usually tends to dominate the market. But again I'm just getting into eve so I have to do some lookin around first hehe GorgeousGamers.com - Rate Fellow Eve Players Pictures!
Kerushi	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:12:00 - [7] selling isk can get u banned ________________ I don't DO graphics, here's a sig anyway, wubwoo - Cortes lol thanks :-)
turnschuh	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:12:00 - [8] how can you make 1-2$ per deal if you only get ISK for gamecodes? you cannot sell isk for $$$ else you get banned.
Panaka	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:14:00 - [9] Originally by: Kerushi selling isk can get u banned Yea just using it as a figure of speech. GorgeousGamers.com - Rate Fellow Eve Players Pictures!
Panaka	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:15:00 - [10] Originally by: Donna Divine Edited by: Donna Divine on 20/05/2006 20:14:02 150K usd in gametime you'd be willing to turn into isk ? Is that your money or money you'd be turning into isk from other players that want to aquire isk. Are you brokering or actually buying here ? If it's the latter, CCP is gonna put a stop to it no doubt. There's no official limit atm, but i do happen to know they don't like excesses in RMT, and this would be an excess. If it's brokering, I'd again doubt they'd let you do it unless you'd be making a profit measured in isk, not dollars. Even if the profit is measured in isk, I'd ask them and make sure to get a final answer from a dev before doing this. There's some chance of them going along with a profit emasured in isk, but they'd no doubt put you on a watchlist of some kind for their GM's to make srue you don't go and turn that isk into dollars again someway. Actually, I;m gonna forward this thread to the dev i had contact with regarding this RMT issue some time ago to see what he and his colleagues think about it. It's actually something I thought would happen sooner or later. -'m betting they are not going to like it however What's RMT? GorgeousGamers.com - Rate Fellow Eve Players Pictures!
Eximius Josari	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:17:00 - [11] Eventually, EARTH will offer gametime codes as rewards for meritorious service. However at this time we do not have the resources to expend on things not immediately tenable. But, in the future, we may be someone to inquire with. Click Above
DukDodgerz	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:22:00 - [12] Originally by: Panaka Hey folks, I'm sure many of you don't know me..but those of you who've played UO in the past probably do. I was a very big deal broker in that game, and now it's basically dead. I've been playing eve for a few months now and Lovveeee! it. I'm basically going to be looking to start supplying alliances with gametime cards for in game credits. My question is this: What's a good way to get in with some of the larger alliances, how do I get in touch with their leaders/founders, and should I bother setting up a website? Any help would be appreciated. I can be reached ICQ 60323833 or in game under my tag DoranM. I appreciate any help anyone can give me :) Thanks guys This guy is a classic isk (gold) seller. CCP please ban the account and refuse to allow this scum to remain in the game. FRODO HAS FAILED; BUSH HAS THE RING!!! The Hippo mating ritual
Panaka	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:22:00 - [13] Originally by: Eximius Josari Eventually, EARTH will offer gametime codes as rewards for meritorious service. However at this time we do not have the resources to expend on things not immediately tenable. But, in the future, we may be someone to inquire with. Absolutely; I'd love to work with you :D GorgeousGamers.com - Rate Fellow Eve Players Pictures!
DukDodgerz	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:23:00 - [14] Originally by: Panaka Originally by: Arkanor Originally by: Panaka I'd buy them from eve online. Traditionally I spend anywhere between 100 and 150,000 dollars a year in gametime codes.. That's the kind of volume I was doing in ultima online. I'm looking to do more in eve online. I know..it seems like a lot..but I'm content making like 1-2$ on a deal. Which with a good reputation and fast service usually tends to dominate the market. But again I'm just getting into eve so I have to do some lookin around first hehe admits to selling the isk for real life cash, ban this scum please! FRODO HAS FAILED; BUSH HAS THE RING!!! The Hippo mating ritual
Panaka	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:24:00 - [15] Originally by: DukDodgerz Originally by: Panaka Hey folks, I appreciate any help anyone can give me :) Thanks guys This guy is a classic isk (gold) seller. CCP please ban the account and refuse to allow this scum to remain in the game. Wow..some pent up anger there. GorgeousGamers.com - Rate Fellow Eve Players Pictures!
Panaka	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:28:00 - [16] Originally by: DukDodgerz Originally by: Panaka Originally by: Arkanor Originally by: Panaka I'd buy them from eve online. Traditionally I spend anywhere between 100 and 150,000 dollars a year in gametime codes.. That's the kind of volume I was doing in ultima online. I'm looking to do more in eve online. I know..it seems like a lot..but I'm content making like 1-2$ on a deal. Which with a good reputation and fast service usually tends to dominate the market. But again I'm just getting into eve so I have to do some lookin around first hehe admits to selling the isk for real life cash, ban this scum please! Your a moron. Nothing was admitted and in my first post I said I'm new to eve, so how could I be some huge mega seller..Take a chill pill and relax a little. I'm on more of a fact finding mission here than anything else. So far the only facts your giving me is that you have a crappy attitude and a rude mouth. Try to educate not player hate :) GorgeousGamers.com - Rate Fellow Eve Players Pictures!
D'onryu Shoqui	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:30:00 - [17] alliances in this game will just want to pod your lame ass repeatedly in this game for this type of behaviour hope you get banned
Donna Divine	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:30:00 - [18] Edited by: Donna Divine on 20/05/2006 20:31:06 Originally by: Panaka What's RMT? RMT is the acronym for Real Money Trade often used to refer to the trading of virtual items for real currency or real services. Turning dollars into isk in Eve is only half legal. It's an informal system so far, and it's one that will be either abruptly cut off or rapidly formalised as soon as people start making real money off of it. The intent is to allow limited trading of money for isk, not the earning of money by the trading of isk, which would be what brokering against real money comission amounts to. If your comissions indeed consist of non-virtual currency, non-virtual services or other non-virtual things, you're indeed in for a ban. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gilded Goose Brokerages Trading to order.
DeODokktor	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:31:00 - [19] You **** * ** ***. I hope you * ** and *** . But beyond that.. You are a **** for thinking you can go to the PUBLIC FORUMS ON CCP'S WEBSITE AND SAY that you want to break the t&c. I am sure it happens but for you to say it here.. .. Please excuse the 's .. I have got a forum ban warning for calling someone a ***** *****. Signature removed - please contact us at [email protected] to know why - Jacques
Donna Divine	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:33:00 - [20] Edited by: Donna Divine on 20/05/2006 20:35:11 Besides the point I already raised, the below is most likely true as well. Alliances and other big groupings within this game tend to consist of longer time and more involved players that do in general frown upon the purchasing of isk. A broker with your intentions has little chance of gaining favour with them. Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui alliances in this game will just want to pod your lame ass repeatedly in this game for this type of behaviour And yes, bans only apply when you actually do something nasty, not when asking about them. However, your account is probably going to be looked at to see wether what you say is true. You have indeed correctly seen a potential in the informal RMT system in Eve that would have been better left unspotted. I'm sure someone will come along and answer your questions however. Since this now is a public discussion I don't think CCP will ask you to just ask the questions you asked by petition instead of posting. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gilded Goose Brokerages Trading to order.
Panaka	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:33:00 - [21] Originally by: Donna Divine Edited by: Donna Divine on 20/05/2006 20:31:06 Originally by: Panaka What's RMT? RMT is the acronym for Real Money Trade often used to refer to the trading of virtual items for real currency or real services. Turning dollars into isk in Eve is only half legal. It's an informal system so far, and it's one that will be either abruptly cut off or rapidly formalised as soon as people start making real money off of it. The intent is to allow limited trading of money for isk, not the earning of money by the trading of isk, which would be what brokering against real money comission amounts to. If your comissions indeed consist of non-virtual currency, non-virtual services or other non-virtual things, you're indeed in for a ban. Cool thanks for the info, and again I doubt any ban will be occuring since I'm just asking questions :) GorgeousGamers.com - Rate Fellow Eve Players Pictures!
Panaka	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:34:00 - [22] Originally by: DeODokktor You **** * ** ***. I hope you * ** and *** . But beyond that.. You are a **** for thinking you can go to the PUBLIC FORUMS ON CCP'S WEBSITE AND SAY that you want to break the t&c. I am sure it happens but for you to say it here.. .. Please excuse the 's .. I have got a forum ban warning for calling someone a ***** *****. Riiiight I'm not saying I want to break anything. I'm here on a fact finding mission. You guys are really uptight :( GorgeousGamers.com - Rate Fellow Eve Players Pictures!
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:34:00 - [23] Lots of love in this thread. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Panaka	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:35:00 - [24] Originally by: Donna Divine Besides the point I already raised, the below is most likely true as well. Alliances and other big groupings within this game tend to consist of longer time and more involved players that do in general frown upon the purchasing of isk. A broker with your intentions has little chance of gaining favour with them. Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui alliances in this game will just want to pod your lame ass repeatedly in this game for this type of behaviour I haven't said I plan to sell isk.. I get the feeling you yourself sell codes for isk, but somehow you're exempt from the thrashing I'm taking on this thread. Must be nice. GorgeousGamers.com - Rate Fellow Eve Players Pictures!
Donna Divine	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:41:00 - [25] No, I don't sell timecodes for isk. I'm just someone that's played MMORPG's for a long time already and is interested in the general issue of money for virtual goods. The solution used by CCP is one that is rather unique so far, but still in development as far as I am aware. I'm not getting flamed because I don't express the wish to capitalise on an opportunity to mix the virtual with the non-virtual. People tend to dislike people expressing that wish in most MMO's. Eve is most certainly not an exception. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gilded Goose Brokerages Trading to order.
Panaka	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:45:00 - [26] Originally by: Donna Divine No, I don't sell timecodes for isk. I'm just someone that's played MMORPG's for a long time already and is interested in the general issue of money for virtual goods. The solution used by CCP is one that is rather unique so far, but still in development as far as I am aware. I'm not getting flamed because I don't express the wish to capitalise on an opportunity to mix the virtual with the non-virtual. People tend to dislike people expressing that wish in most MMO's. Eve is most certainly not an exception. Haven't said I was going to :P People are jumping to conclusions. Regardless; please let me know what you find out from your CCP guy, I'd be curious to find that out aswell. Seems funny they'd allow it just a little. If you look on ebay there's tons of auctions up. There are tons of websites actually selling it, etc. Just seems wierd for a game to allow it a little. Most are 100% yes or 100% no. So I'd be curious as to where eve stands. Can you drop me a line when you find out? GorgeousGamers.com - Rate Fellow Eve Players Pictures!
Donna Divine	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:50:00 - [27] Edited by: Donna Divine on 20/05/2006 20:53:27 I'm not sure it'll be fast :p The guy I contacted tends to be rather busy I reckon. But I am sure someone else will get a word in here, they can hardly afford not to. The reason they allow it a little is to be sought in CCP's nature. CCP often prefer pragmatism. A 100% against stance takes alot of effort to enforce, and even then no single MMO title has ever succeeded in enforcing it to a large nough extent to make it a non-issue to it's subscribers. However, a 100% allowed stance is against the things CCP hold dear. So what they have come up with is a method that on one hand allows limited RMT, yet on the other works to actually force the more traditional gold farmers out of buisiness slowly. Or at the very leat the less effective of them. And the most effective they might actually catch the old fashioned way. To see what i mean check the prices for isk at for example IGE and compare to what a gametime card gets you ingame. Doing it 'legally' actually nets you more isk for your cash as a buyer. That's a pretty unique and possibly promising economic approach to the issue I'd say ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gilded Goose Brokerages Trading to order.
Panaka	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:54:00 - [28] Originally by: Donna Divine I'm not sure it'll be fast :p The guy I contacted tends to be rather busy I reckon. But I;m sure someone else will get a word in here, they can hardly afford not to. The reason they allow it a little is to be sought in CCP's nature. CCP often prefer pragmatism. A 100% against stance takes alot of effort to enforce, and even then no single MMO title ahs ever succeeded in enforcing it to a large nough extent to make it a non-issue to it's subscribers. However, a 100% allowed stance it against the things CCP hold dear. So what they;ve come up with is a method that on one hand allows limited RMT, yet on the other works to actually force the more traditional gold faremrs out of buisiness slowly. Or at the very leat the least effective of them. And the most effective they might actually catch the old fashioned way. To see what i mean check the prices for isk at for example IGE and compare to what a gametime card gets you ingame. Doing it 'legally' actually nets you more isk for your cash as a buyer That's a pretty unique economic approach to the issue I'd say. there a way i can contact you so we can discuss this a little more? GorgeousGamers.com - Rate Fellow Eve Players Pictures!
Valan	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:55:00 - [29] CCP investigate and ban users buying and selling ISK. They can't watch everybody, I have feeling that you just fell under the spotlight.
Donna Divine	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:55:00 - [30] Well, I don't mind discussing it here. Doing that makes for a better chance to get some wortwhile input from others, not to mention CCP. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gilded Goose Brokerages Trading to order.
Ashvul	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:57:00 - [31] Originally by: Panaka I know..it seems like a lot..but I'm content making like 1-2$ on a deal. Which with a good reputation and fast service usually tends to dominate the market. But again I'm just getting into eve so I have to do some lookin around first hehe this implies that you intend on making real world profit on imaginary world money. nobody spends $100-150k without expecting to get something out of it.
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:58:00 - [32] Please leave my game, never to return
Tachy	Posted - 2006.05.20 20:58:00 - [33] If you'd be interested in something like what you stated above you'd have started reading the TOS and the EULA first. The next logical step weould have been to contact ccp as they have all rights to their service. The contact adress is easy to find. You only had to use the 'contact' link or the 'ask a question' link. Strange, but such things happen. How would you contact people whose names are easily accessible with the ingame tools and the alliance forum (called alliance forum) and who could easily contacted using ingame means? I think you're not paying your full share of taxes, nor do you use your Brain1.0 enough. --==*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray
D'onryu Shoqui	Posted - 2006.05.20 21:04:00 - [34] Quote: I haven't said I plan to sell isk.. I get the feeling you yourself sell codes for isk, but somehow you're exempt from the thrashing I'm taking on this thread. Must be nice. even if i had the money to buy time codes and sell them for isk i wouldnt be doing it to make a profit
Adrian Kerensky	Posted - 2006.05.20 21:30:00 - [35] This is lower than the guy publicly begging for ISK a few weeks ago. It's people like you that ruin MMOs. I hope you get banned or at least investigated. And please explain to me how this doesn't imply that you wish to make RL profit out of it? Originally by: Panaka I know..it seems like a lot..but I'm content making like 1-2$ on a deal. Which with a good reputation and fast service usually tends to dominate the market. Let me guess - it was just a slip of the 'tongue' and you don't intend to buy GTCs to sell for ISK to convert back into dollars at all... You will find that in this game the buying and selling of in game currency is frowned upon even more so than in other games. I would be supprised if you found people willing to buy off you if they knew what you implied you were going to do.
Jin Jemai	Posted - 2006.05.20 21:43:00 - [36] Originally by: HippoKing Please leave my game, never to return Now now HippoKing, you might lay claim to the forums, but the game isnt yours yet :P ----- Lighten up a little bit. It's only the end of the world.
Eternal Fury	Posted - 2006.05.20 21:52:00 - [37] Ok. Lets put it this way. You buy a game time card for 15$US. you then sell if for say 100Mil Isk. How are you going to make money(US Dollers or what ever you use) from this? the only person recieveing money is CCP for the cost of the Time card. Why everyone is jumping on you is this. If you buy $150,000 US Dollers worth of time codes, you would recieve 10,000,000 Mill Isk. When you have that much game currency, how is that equated to US Dollers you are going to spend? The only thing you can buy with Isk, is more time codes.. nowhere in this situation are people giveing you Dollers. YOU are the one paying for things with dollers. So it breaks down to this. your 15$ buys a 1 month time code, which gets you 100Mil Isk. where do you make a profit in US Dollers? Do you see where we get at. All we see is you tradeing large sums of US Dollers for imaginary money(isk). What will you do with that imaginary money(isk) that will earn you REAL US Dollers. The logical conclusion is you will be selling that imaginary money(isk) for real money(US DOllers) which is illegal, highly frowned upon by the player base, and a horrible thing to do that will get you sent to hell(if you believe in it). Does this clear up why everyone is calling you scum? If there is something we don't know about, please inform us. becuase from what you've stated, you are a "Gold Farmer" which is a hated thing in all MMO's. well, until I figure Illustrator out. :) And I cant' type eiterh. :)
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.05.20 21:53:00 - [38] Originally by: Jin Jemai Originally by: HippoKing Please leave my game, never to return Now now HippoKing, you might lay claim to the forums, but the game isnt yours yet :P i meant my in the sense of "my workplace" rather than "my beer"
cytomatrix	Posted - 2006.05.20 21:55:00 - [39] Or he is going to buy a bunch of GTCs and sell it cheap and fast. Make a reputation and then buy some more gamecards. Sell them to alliance for huge amount of iskies. Then use the iskies to buy GTCs from other players and then sell it.
Cruz	Posted - 2006.05.20 22:00:00 - [40] Originally by: Valan CCP investigate and ban users buying and selling ISK. They can't watch everybody, I have feeling that you just fell under the spotlight. With the amount of people that I know who have bought isk and gotten away with it, I seriously doubt what you are saying ;-) .................
Donna Divine	Posted - 2006.05.20 22:08:00 - [41] c'mon people read. What he's saying is that he's looking into brokering deals for those looking to sell gtc's and buy isk. In return, he gets a small share of eithe rht eusd they spedn or the isk they get for it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gilded Goose Brokerages Trading to order.
Lil Belle	Posted - 2006.05.20 22:14:00 - [42] Originally by: Donna Divine c'mon people read. What he's saying is that he's looking into brokering deals for those looking to sell gtc's and buy isk. In return, he gets a small share of eithe rht eusd they spedn or the isk they get for it. Did you totally miss the part where he said he buys the cards himself from EVE online and spends roughly 150,000 dollars a year?
Doyenne	Posted - 2006.05.20 22:18:00 - [43] the point of the post is to find customers... the more we reply the more visibility he gets eheh ______________________ If i post using Doyenne, that means i'm a gimp... aka Splagada
Donna Divine	Posted - 2006.05.20 22:19:00 - [44] Originally by: Lil Belle Originally by: Donna Divine c'mon people read. What he's saying is that he's looking into brokering deals for those looking to sell gtc's and buy isk. In return, he gets a small share of eithe rht eusd they spedn or the isk they get for it. Did you totally miss the part where he said he buys the cards himself from EVE online and spends roughly 150,000 dollars a year? He buys, then resells them for cash to people looking to buy isk, and brokers the deal with the people looking to buy gametime for isk. He's looking for a high turnover and a reliable market for those wanting gametime, he knows he can find a reliable market for the isk already. His comission seems to be a 1-2$ fee that comes on top of the normal cost of the gametime card he 'sells' to the isk buyer as part of the deal. That is at least the gist of it as I understood it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gilded Goose Brokerages Trading to order.
Lil Belle	Posted - 2006.05.20 22:24:00 - [45] Edited by: Lil Belle on 20/05/2006 22:25:48 Edited by: Lil Belle on 20/05/2006 22:24:36 Edited by: Lil Belle on 20/05/2006 22:24:00 Originally by: Donna Divine Originally by: Lil Belle Originally by: Donna Divine c'mon people read. What he's saying is that he's looking into brokering deals for those looking to sell gtc's and buy isk. In return, he gets a small share of eithe rht eusd they spedn or the isk they get for it. Did you totally miss the part where he said he buys the cards himself from EVE online and spends roughly 150,000 dollars a year? He buys, then resells them for cash to people looking to buy isk, and brokers the deal with the people looking to buy gametime for isk. He's looking for a high turnover and a reliable market for those wanting gametime, he knows he can find a reliable market for the isk already. His comission seems to be a 1-2$ fee that comes on top of the normal cost of the gametime card he 'sells' to the isk buyer as part of the deal. That is at least the gist of it as I understood it. There are plenty of places to buy timecodes online already, and no brokering is needing since ccp will ban anyone who tries to scam aswell as reverse any isk that was stolen. He also wants them to pay him 1-2 dollars for every deal he brokers? Again, why would anyone pay him when they are protected by ccp anyway? Plus hes profiting real life money out of ccps game by encouraging RMTing even further. Damn, go out and get a real job instead of mooching every dollar you can by encouraging isk for real life money sales.
Istvaan Shogaatsu	Posted - 2006.05.20 22:35:00 - [46] Panaka, I think you may find this community overwhelmingly hostile to what you propose. I mean, "kill a dirty macro miner" is practically our national sport.
Avon	Posted - 2006.05.20 22:41:00 - [47] Originally by: Lil Belle Originally by: Donna Divine c'mon people read. What he's saying is that he's looking into brokering deals for those looking to sell gtc's and buy isk. In return, he gets a small share of eithe rht eusd they spedn or the isk they get for it. Did you totally miss the part where he said he buys the cards himself from EVE online and spends roughly 150,000 dollars a year? First, in the scheme of things, $150,000 over a year is peanuts to CCP. Second, CCP would make the money anyway, unless players quit because they could not buy their GTC's from this individual. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Adrian Kerensky	Posted - 2006.05.20 22:49:00 - [48] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Panaka, I think you may find this community overwhelmingly hostile to what you propose. I mean, "kill a dirty macro miner" is practically our national sport. Here here
Miner Bob	Posted - 2006.05.20 23:04:00 - [49] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Panaka, I think you may find this community overwhelmingly hostile to what you propose. I mean, "kill a dirty macro miner" is practically our national sport. Get em all :)
Draquin	Posted - 2006.05.21 00:26:00 - [50] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Lots of love in this thread. Probalby because the guy is more than likely the same guy who riped off a bunch of people over on UO a coupleof months ago, bascialy someone traded UO version of GTCs in order to make a small margin for himself and then after a while started tradeing fake GT and then bailed. ------------------------------------------------------------ Irealyneedtoburnoffthat12packofredbullIjustdrankinonesetting If your too paranoid to play Eve, your not paranoid enough to play Eve
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2006.05.21 00:42:00 - [51] Go ruin another game please. We rather like this one and would prefer to keep the parasites away.
Scoundrelus	Posted - 2006.05.21 01:28:00 - [52] Edited by: Scoundrelus on 21/05/2006 01:28:39 This is hilarious. Buy a timecode and sell it for isk = WTB 100 mil for 15$. No matter what you say, thats the same as buying ISK, so you don't flame the people buying ISK but you flame those selling it? This guy is making some iquiries, address them or don't flame. It's flamers who ruin the game. No doubt I'll be flamed now for not conforming to the Collective Mind of the Forum Warriors (CMFW for short).
DukDodgerz	Posted - 2006.05.21 02:02:00 - [53] Originally by: Panaka Originally by: DukDodgerz Originally by: Panaka Originally by: Arkanor Originally by: Panaka I'd buy them from eve online. Traditionally I spend anywhere between 100 and 150,000 dollars a year in gametime codes.. That's the kind of volume I was doing in ultima online. I'm looking to do more in eve online. I know..it seems like a lot..but I'm content making like 1-2$ on a deal. Which with a good reputation and fast service usually tends to dominate the market. But again I'm just getting into eve so I have to do some lookin around first hehe admits to selling the isk for real life cash, ban this scum please! Your a moron. Nothing was admitted and in my first post I said I'm new to eve, so how could I be some huge mega seller..Take a chill pill and relax a little. I'm on more of a fact finding mission here than anything else. So far the only facts your giving me is that you have a crappy attitude and a rude mouth. Try to educate not player hate :) ok MORON, look at the red, you said it, you admitted to it, you are planning to selling isk for cash, ccp is notified. FRODO HAS FAILED; BUSH HAS THE RING!!! The Hippo mating ritual
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.05.21 02:02:00 - [54] There is a system in place to allow players that cannot afford the monthly eve fee to play by spending isk on a game time card that another player buys. CCP don't lose out on the subscription fee and a little isk changes hands between some buddies for one paying the sub for the other. There's no way to stop it so they legitimised it. On the other end of the scale is this. This constitutes mass abuse of the system. There is no way in hell that CCP intended something this outrageous to be allowed, but it is. They know that the abuse of the system is there and Kieron has posted before that they tried to do this as something nice for the community to allow something people did anyway but that they are aware that it has backfired on them. I, for one, would like to see the isk for game time card trade made against the rules again. It has no place in an online game. I could use it to buy my way into eve (character and all) or cash out on the many billions I can make in eve. I could run eve like a business and make enough RL cash off it to pay the rent. I don't but if they don't disallow it, there may come a time when I throw my moral stance on this out in favour of paying the bills. It's a slippery slope and eve is falling down it fast... Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
SengH	Posted - 2006.05.21 03:35:00 - [55] techinically he could buy the GTCs for isk again, then resell the GTC code for cash....
Verone	Posted - 2006.05.21 03:43:00 - [56] This thread has to be a Joke tbh... VETO RECRUITMENT

Imaran	Posted - 2006.05.21 03:46:00 - [57] Locked to prevent Editing. I'll bring this one to the attention of the GM team. While selling GTC's For ISK is permitted, doing it en-masse and making an out of game profit is prohibited. This ends the discussion in this thread. Sexeh CRC Website Public Service Announcement : Contrary To Popular Belief, Potatoes Cannot Talk Click / Rank 999 / SP: 1,000,000 of 1,000,000


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