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CCP Delegate Zero C C P C C P Alliance 126	Posted - 2014.04.30 13:02:00 - [1] - Quote Hi Guys, Team Pirate Unicorns have deployed a new build to SiSi with another tranche of tooltip changes and additions to the UI. Revisions and Reformats: Revised NeoCom tooltips Revised Station Services tooltips Starmap tooltips improved and reformated Module tootips improved Additions: New HUD tooltips Entirely new overview tootips New selected item window tooltips In-space brackets listings in tooltip format Character Sheet sidebar tooltips Fitting Window tooltips Ships/Drones attributes tooltips Some of these we have A/B tested to date. Others we have a high confidence make a positive contribution without that form of testing. We are intending to release this full set to all players in the near future. We'd very much like your feedback on these. In addition all pre-existing 'hints' (old tooltips) have been switched to the new basic format, so any problems you encounter would be very useful to know about. Cheers, Pirate Unicorns CCP Delegate Zero \| Game Designer \| @CCPDelegateZero

Bienator II madmen of the skies 2572	Posted - 2014.04.30 18:39:00 - [2] - Quote cool stuff! what about tooltips for characters listing basics like current corp, standing icons, aggression icons etc? (so you don't have to show-info all the time) eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW
Salpun Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects 719	Posted - 2014.05.01 01:00:00 - [3] - Quote CCP Delegate Zero wrote: In-space brackets listings in tooltip format Pirate Unicorns What are we suppose to be seeing from this feature? Is this in the settings window? If in space its currently not showing up until you hold down on it long enough to get the radial menu and it closes really fast. I am just getting a flash. If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide See you around the universe.

CCP Delegate Zero C C P C C P Alliance 126	Posted - 2014.05.01 10:50:00 - [4] - Quote Yeah, I probably worded that a bit obscurely. What I meant by that is when you have a lot of bracket icons in space close together (for eg. either they are bunched up at the corner/edge of screen, or they are distant and happen to be very close to one another, like stations, planets, moons, etc) on TQ now you will get a fairly unwieldy list brackets and names that we felt could be improved on. So on SiSi this list now appears in a tooltip, which if it goes beyond a certain number is scrollable and the entries are fully interactable with radial, right click, etc. If you're still having problems with this let us know what you're seeing. Cheers, DZ CCP Delegate Zero \| Game Designer \| @CCPDelegateZero

Liner Xiandra Sparks Inc Zero Hour Alliance 321	Posted - 2014.05.02 09:30:00 - [5] - Quote Liking these a lot, including the shortcut notice in the top corner. Tooltips on the overview items are a bit redundant for things like stations / gates / planets atm; but maybe if it showed some more data it'd be pretty cool; say a tooltip on a stargate to say "Stargate to Amamake - Heimatar > Hed constellation - 0.4 security space - 3 podkills in the last 30 minutes " (or if you want to go all out, let us pick some statistics to show here) Station tooltips could show dockingrights / standings and so on.
Salpun Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects 722	Posted - 2014.05.02 12:12:00 - [6] - Quote CCP Delegate Zero wrote: Yeah, I probably worded that a bit obscurely. What I meant by that is when you have a lot of bracket icons in space close together (for eg. either they are bunched up at the corner/edge of screen, or they are distant and happen to be very close to one another, like stations, planets, moons, etc) on TQ now you will get a fairly unwieldy list brackets and names that we felt could be improved on. So on SiSi this list now appears in a tooltip, which if it goes beyond a certain number is scrollable and the entries are fully interactable with radial, right click, etc. If you're still having problems with this let us know what you're seeing. Cheers, DZ Only works upper left corner. If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide See you around the universe.
Noriko Mai 1257	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:10:00 - [7] - Quote Salpun wrote: CCP Delegate Zero wrote: Yeah, I probably worded that a bit obscurely. What I meant by that is when you have a lot of bracket icons in space close together (for eg. either they are bunched up at the corner/edge of screen, or they are distant and happen to be very close to one another, like stations, planets, moons, etc) on TQ now you will get a fairly unwieldy list brackets and names that we felt could be improved on. So on SiSi this list now appears in a tooltip, which if it goes beyond a certain number is scrollable and the entries are fully interactable with radial, right click, etc. If you're still having problems with this let us know what you're seeing. Cheers, DZ Only works upper left corner. I think he means this.
Salpun Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects 723	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:14:00 - [8] - Quote Noriko Mai wrote: Salpun wrote: CCP Delegate Zero wrote: Yeah, I probably worded that a bit obscurely. What I meant by that is when you have a lot of bracket icons in space close together (for eg. either they are bunched up at the corner/edge of screen, or they are distant and happen to be very close to one another, like stations, planets, moons, etc) on TQ now you will get a fairly unwieldy list brackets and names that we felt could be improved on. So on SiSi this list now appears in a tooltip, which if it goes beyond a certain number is scrollable and the entries are fully interactable with radial, right click, etc. If you're still having problems with this let us know what you're seeing. Cheers, DZ Only works upper left corner. I think he means this. 90% client is broken If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide See you around the universe.
Noriko Mai 1260	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:25:00 - [9] - Quote Salpun wrote: 90% client is broken I don't understand.
Salpun Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects 723	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:38:00 - [10] - Quote Noriko Mai wrote: Salpun wrote: 90% client is broken I don't understand. Set your client to 90% and in windows mode. If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide See you around the universe.
Noriko Mai 1260	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:38:00 - [11] - Quote Salpun wrote: Noriko Mai wrote: Salpun wrote: 90% client is broken I don't understand. Set your client to 90% and in windows mode. Oh, I see, you mean scale Edit: I can confirm In-space brackets listings in tooltip format on 90%, 110%, 125% scale are broken. The flash a few times and disappear.
Merida DunBrogh Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 19	Posted - 2014.05.03 21:35:00 - [12] - Quote Noriko Mai wrote: Salpun wrote: Noriko Mai wrote: Salpun wrote: 90% client is broken I don't understand. Set your client to 90% and in windows mode. Oh, I see, you mean scale Edit: I can confirm In-space brackets listings in tooltip format on 90%, 110%, 125% scale are broken. They flash a few times and disappear. I can't even get it to appear 80% of the time o.O The time to make it appear(the few times I could actually get it to appear) seems awfully long though in comparison to how it used to be, or is that just me? I thought I was just doing something wrong, or possibly something not fully working yet, "glad" to see though that it is simply a scaling issue.
Alsia Zek Zek Trading 0	Posted - 2014.05.04 18:56:00 - [13] - Quote I like the new tool tips. But is there a method to tune the delay time for the popup to appear? Or could this be a freature request? :) I would pefer a 0 second delay myself as I care more for quick response than flasy eye candy.

CCP Delegate Zero C C P C C P Alliance 126	Posted - 2014.05.05 08:50:00 - [14] - Quote Thanks for these reports, we're on it. Any other feedback you have, let us know. CCP Delegate Zero \| Game Designer \| @CCPDelegateZero

Lena Lazair Khanid Irregulars 113	Posted - 2014.05.06 17:02:00 - [15] - Quote CCP Delegate Zero wrote: So on SiSi this list now appears in a tooltip, which if it goes beyond a certain number is scrollable and the entries are fully interactable with radial, right click, etc. This is awesome. However, sometimes when I right-click in the item list for the context menu, the tooltip disappears. Other times it stays visible with the item I right-click highlighted. This inconsistency is a bit annoying; would be awesome if it always stayed visible with the item I right-click highlighted. Oddly enough, when in warp, this doesn't seem to happen... the tooltip always stays visible on right-click. But out of warp it's about 50/50 whether it stays visible or disappears.
Salpun Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects 725	Posted - 2014.05.07 05:53:00 - [16] - Quote UI interface technique called the "Amazon Menu Triangle" hack is added to all right click menus. Devs are looking for feed back. If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide See you around the universe.

CCP Delegate Zero C C P C C P Alliance 127	Posted - 2014.05.07 09:35:00 - [17] - Quote Lena Lazair wrote: CCP Delegate Zero wrote: So on SiSi this list now appears in a tooltip, which if it goes beyond a certain number is scrollable and the entries are fully interactable with radial, right click, etc. This is awesome. However, sometimes when I right-click in the item list for the context menu, the tooltip disappears. Other times it stays visible with the item I right-click highlighted. This inconsistency is a bit annoying; would be awesome if it always stayed visible with the item I right-click highlighted. Oddly enough, when in warp, this doesn't seem to happen... the tooltip always stays visible on right-click. But out of warp it's about 50/50 whether it stays visible or disappears. One of our UI programmers figured out why this is happening and we'll be looking at this issue. Put simply, if the right-click menu covers the 'source' bracket when it appears then this disappearing act of the list tooltip will happen. CCP Delegate Zero \| Game Designer \| @CCPDelegateZero

Salpun Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects 725	Posted - 2014.05.07 12:14:00 - [18] - Quote Salpun wrote: UI interface technique called the "Amazon Menu Triangle" hack is added to all right click menus. Devs are looking for feed back. only draw back in the reddit thread so far. now the "Jump To" menu is going to stay out when you think you are in the "Bridge To" menu :-( If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide See you around the universe.
Lena Lazair Khanid Irregulars 115	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:36:00 - [19] - Quote Salpun wrote: only draw back in the reddit thread so far. now the "Jump To" menu is going to stay out when you think you are in the "Bridge To" menu :-( That's not a drawback. That's a conflict driver.
Salpun Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects 725	Posted - 2014.05.08 01:09:00 - [20] - Quote Lena Lazair wrote: Salpun wrote: only draw back in the reddit thread so far. now the "Jump To" menu is going to stay out when you think you are in the "Bridge To" menu :-( That's not a drawback. That's a conflict driver. True but would hate to have this feature pulled after deploy because of this. The location list just needs a icon on top that of the pop out that says what it is going to happen when you select a location. If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide See you around the universe.
Noriko Mai 1337	Posted - 2014.05.08 16:40:00 - [21] - Quote [BUG] Tech level overlay in tooltips is displaced by a few pixel (same in space) (Bug report submitted)
Salpun Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects 725	Posted - 2014.05.09 00:38:00 - [22] - Quote Bug reports in for missing tool tips( only show message id) in the current ships' info panel and ships fitting array. ships insurance tool tip is miss located. Tool tips needs an ability to adjust delay or just turn off. Can we get a way to shrink the extra space out of the tool tip between the lines and edge and the text. Can we get a way to change the text size. Is the drone tool tip suppose to show more then name and value? Are the module tool tips for modules currently active in the fitting window coming back. If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide See you around the universe.
Crazy KSK Tsunami Cartel Cascade Imminent 84	Posted - 2014.05.09 00:45:00 - [23] - Quote I think that the new tool tips waste too much space and maybe are a bit too large in general but mainly the space between lines of text and text and the border should be much smaller I made a mockup to show what I think would look much better (left is my edited version) https://www.dropbox.com/s/dfuxcjrlxxzpzgz/2014-03-28_20-11-55%20edit.png in some cases the text is broken over for only one word instead of making it just a little longer which wastes a lot of space https://www.dropbox.com/s/5nmp3hv9pi8pl18/2014-03-28_19-54-42.png the shortcut here is missing its bound to control by default https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4pxiezzjoj0g5f/2014-03-28_20-40-58.png the tooltips when hovering over something in the overview seem quite redundant since they mostly show whats on it anyway I feel that there should be an option to only show tooltips when a key is pressed Quote CCP Fozzie: ... The days of balance and forget are over.
Niko Lorenzio United Eve Directorate 328	Posted - 2014.05.09 06:25:00 - [24] - Quote Most of the tooltips are nice. They did stop working after I hovered over a system in a starmap and had to restart the client to get them back. I like how stations got separated from orbital bodies in the solar system show info window, but I don't know if it was necessary to remove them from the list when you hover over a system on the starmap. I often used the starmap to quickly scout nearby stations, agents, services and set destinations to them. Most importantly I used it to view corp offices in those stations as there is no other way to view that information remotely. Why was this removed?
Niko Lorenzio United Eve Directorate 328	Posted - 2014.05.09 06:34:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Delegate Zero wrote: Yeah, I probably worded that a bit obscurely. What I meant by that is when you have a lot of bracket icons in space close together (for eg. either they are bunched up at the corner/edge of screen, or they are distant and happen to be very close to one another, like stations, planets, moons, etc) on TQ now you will get a fairly unwieldy list brackets and names that we felt could be improved on. So on SiSi this list now appears in a tooltip, which if it goes beyond a certain number is scrollable and the entries are fully interactable with radial, right click, etc. If you're still having problems with this let us know what you're seeing. Cheers, DZ My favorite change so far. Loving these!

CCP Habakuk C C P C C P Alliance 909	Posted - 2014.05.09 10:07:00 - [26] - Quote Salpun wrote: Bugs and issues found will talking to players on Sisi. Bug reports in for missing tool tips( only show message id) in the current ships' info panel and ships fitting array. This one is caused by me missing to get proper localization data into the patch. Sorry about this - will be fixed in the next patch. CCP Habakuk \| EVE Quality Assurance \| Team Gridlock-á Bug reporting \| Mass Testing


CCP karkur C C P C C P Alliance 3313	Posted - 2014.05.09 13:10:00 - [27] - Quote Salpun wrote: Are the module tool tips for modules currently active in the fitting window coming back. Crazy KSK wrote: also this is not working right http://i.imgur.com/SDHylyF.gif and http://i.imgur.com/p3GVAYs.gif Don't worry, the tooltips are staying in the fitting window, there's just a tiny bug there which I fixed yesterday CCP karkur \| User Interface Programmer \| Team Pirate Unicorns \|-á@CCP karkur

Salpun Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects 726	Posted - 2014.05.09 21:37:00 - [28] - Quote First TQ build: Why was the patch so big? Looks good should get a positive response. The last set of major tool tips bugs I had seen got fixed. UI scaling not working with the new menu hack is still an issue. The lost of functionality in the Overview vice old tool tips, ie allowing a column to we shrunk down but when moused over the tool tip would show the whole entry, will be the first major pain point identified in the release thread. If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide See you around the universe.

CCP Habakuk C C P C C P Alliance 910	Posted - 2014.05.09 22:37:00 - [29] - Quote Salpun wrote: First TQ build: Why was the patch so big? Edit: Answer is that the gecko and ship skins that where added directly to TQ clients got added to what was a Sisi client. I had a check and the patch from current TQ to this new build on Singularity is only 19.9MB. Everything else was stuff, which was somehow missing on Sisi before. CCP Habakuk \| EVE Quality Assurance \| Team Gridlock-á Bug reporting \| Mass Testing

Ayumi Shekki Thee Almitee Ones The Unforgiven Alliance 8	Posted - 2014.05.09 22:42:00 - [30] - Quote When is the new update of the up coming update to june 3, going to be passed over to test server, short of 3 weeks,
Salpun Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects 726	Posted - 2014.05.09 22:45:00 - [31] - Quote CCP Habakuk wrote: Salpun wrote: First TQ build: Why was the patch so big? Edit: Answer is that the gecko and ship skins that where added directly to TQ clients got added to what was a Sisi client. I had a check and the patch from current TQ to this new build on Singularity is only 19.9MB. Everything else was stuff, which was somehow missing on Sisi before. Thanks good to know. If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide See you around the universe.
Salpun Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects 726	Posted - 2014.05.09 22:49:00 - [32] - Quote Ayumi Shekki wrote: When is the new update of the up coming update to june 3, going to be passed over to test server, short of 3 weeks, The word that is being passed around is Wednesday next week with a mass test to check the changes the next day. Current build on Sisi will go to TQ on Tuesday per CCP Explorer on twitter. If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide See you around the universe.
Salpun Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects 726	Posted - 2014.05.10 15:22:00 - [33] - Quote With tool tips in the client can we get the station info window to show icons only again on the services tab so we don't have to scroll or make the window bigger. If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide See you around the universe.
Noriko Mai 1338	Posted - 2014.05.10 19:46:00 - [34] - Quote The hitpoints tooltips in the fitting window are not consistent. Shield: "Shield hipoints and shield recharge time" Armor: "Armor" Structure: "Structure" Should be Armor: "Armor hitpoints" Structure: "Structure hitpoints"
Salpun Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects 735	Posted - 2014.05.11 19:16:00 - [35] - Quote New build: The tool tips on fitted items in the fitting window is back. Now we just need a way to compare what we have fitted to what we have in our hanger and a way to switch them out from the tool tip.. Future iteration for the win. The two other useability issues were not fixed. IE menu hack on scaled clients and the Overview loss of usability change. Noriko's suggested change not implemented. If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide See you around the universe.
Noriko Mai 1342	Posted - 2014.05.11 19:40:00 - [36] - Quote Salpun wrote: Noriko's suggested change not implemented. How dare you CCP! You had the whole night from saturday to sunday!
Lena Lazair Khanid Irregulars 126	Posted - 2014.05.15 00:59:00 - [37] - Quote Another item missing a module tooltip is the "Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I"
Kenneth Endashi Green Skull LLC 1	Posted - 2014.05.15 04:17:00 - [38] - Quote Hello. I don't know if this is the right place for my comment - but the tool-tips have 100% removed my ability to gather loot-spew from relic and data sites - and I can no longer profit from my expeditions. I can not imagine a situation in which a tool-tip that only pops up on mouse-over could be better than all my information on-screen at once. I think it looks nice, but I sincerely need a way of turning it off because I tried, but I can not play the game the way it's meant to be played under this circumstance. Please keep up the good work, CCP. Thanks for making a great game.
Anthar Thebess 407	Posted - 2014.05.15 07:18:00 - [39] - Quote THe most annoying thing for me that when i hover other ships on overview it shows me : 1!!! THIS PLAYER HAVE BAD STANDING HE AGREESSED YOU ( or something like this ) But i want to see : Aliance Corporation Ship type etc /o\ 2nd of all All items in those windows are not refreshing. When i hover on someone else Ship this popup and show for example 52km away , and it show this 52km as long you keep mouse over this ship , he is 52km away ... but still you get a scramble. 3 rd. Why if i select some NPC ships first thing i target is always the BEACON now?
Tortatratotrigidron Ministry of War Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.05.15 08:26:00 - [40] - Quote I think that new tooltips are great exept the ones shown on objects in space. Old ones were better, they were smaller, transparent and appeared instantly. I do hacking alot and now i have to wait ~1 sec before the tooltip appears on the container that i want to pull in. And every second lost after succesful hack lead to significant ISK loss. I think those tooltips should be customisable or there should be possibility to change them to old style.
Anthar Thebess 408	Posted - 2014.05.15 09:22:00 - [41] - Quote Try to tackle something where you have 150+ on grid while waiting when it show you the range. Or try to keep range from other ceptors , while having your overview focusing on something else. Before this thing reload you few times you are dead. 1-2 seconds on reloading when you have few ceptors on your tail is priceless.
Ransu Asanari Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables 113	Posted - 2014.05.15 13:36:00 - [42] - Quote Noting that the statistic info/tooltips for Energy Neutralizers are missing from both the fitting window hover, and the in-space menus. Powder and Ball Alchemists Union - "Turning Lead into Gold since 2008"
Crazy KSK Tsunami Cartel Cascade Imminent 87	Posted - 2014.05.17 19:42:00 - [43] - Quote so I see the in space object mous over tooltip has been made smaller good.....NO! just get rid of it the old way was much better and didn't block anything or get in the way, in any way Quote CCP Fozzie: ... The days of balance and forget are over.
Goro Udan Free Main OPS Hypercube alliance 0	Posted - 2014.05.18 13:50:00 - [44] - Quote Account EVE-SSO-CONNECTION has been disabled Reactivate please my account on the test the server. Thanks.

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