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Hardin	Posted - 2006.05.20 21:34:00 - [1] Edited by: Hardin on 20/05/2006 21:36:07 Nice trap guys. Was wondering what you were up to all week Don't worry revenge will be mine AMARR VICTOR Hardin wanders off to mourn the loss of his carrier -------------------------------------------- Smiting pirates and terrorists for Amarr
dailyhazard	Posted - 2006.05.20 21:37:00 - [2] what about us i feel unloved :( But she's hot, SHE MAY BE THE ONLY WOMAN I EVER HAVE - DAILY
slip66	Posted - 2006.05.20 21:37:00 - [3] Ohhh trap!! what did they do? Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers
Ventosus	Posted - 2006.05.20 21:39:00 - [4] Edited by: Ventosus on 20/05/2006 21:39:47 Story short> Our Enemy was attacking some POS in our base system, we went in and took down an Amar Carrier. We lost 2 domi and 1 geddon, in this operation. We thank CVA for once again giving us a good time, and honour them as respectful and a very good opponent. p.s. This was a combined operation between x13 and our friends in Cosmic Fusion. x13 ............... We will win Eve
Lucian Alucard	Posted - 2006.05.20 21:39:00 - [5] You are unloved Daily :-P Go get them Hardin
Hugo Rune	Posted - 2006.05.20 21:39:00 - [6] Come on, you cant say "nice trap" and hint that it took a week to pull off, and not give details, juicy stories welcomed. ------------ \|\|\| ---------- Hugo Artemis Solon Saturnicus Reginald Arthur Rune
Hardin	Posted - 2006.05.20 21:40:00 - [7] Edited by: Hardin on 20/05/2006 21:40:42 Put up a POS to tempt us. Had a fleet of BS with LOTS of neutralisers/NOS logged off in the system (for several days it seems) We attacked the POS They logged in at SS and warped in. My Carrier ran out of cap in about 30 secs while being shot at by the POS OUCH. Our support arrived but was too late. Lessons learned... -------------------------------------------- Smiting pirates and terrorists for Amarr
Xider	Posted - 2006.05.20 21:42:00 - [8] Good job Cosmic fusion and X13
Draximus Cane	Posted - 2006.05.20 21:44:00 - [9] When does the "Get Hardin a carrier" singathon start? Bad luck Hardin, hope it works out -------------------------------------------------
Hardin	Posted - 2006.05.20 21:45:00 - [10] Originally by: Draximus Cane When does the "Get Hardin a carrier" singathon start? Soon I hope -------------------------------------------- Smiting pirates and terrorists for Amarr
LoxyRider	Posted - 2006.05.20 21:54:00 - [11] mans the phones
wierchas noobhunter	Posted - 2006.05.20 21:59:00 - [12] Originally by: LoxyRider mans the phones your sigs are scary join soar angelic! or at least bump it
dailyhazard	Posted - 2006.05.20 22:00:00 - [13] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter Originally by: LoxyRider mans the phones your sigs are scary it attracts the kids. ronald mcdonald is a chick magnet! But she's hot, SHE MAY BE THE ONLY WOMAN I EVER HAVE - DAILY
Hardin	Posted - 2006.05.20 22:04:00 - [14] Edited by: Hardin on 20/05/2006 22:06:28 We have had an official war with x13 for about 2 1/2 weeks. They have been one of our better opponents. We under-estimated them at first and they got some easy kills at the outset of the war. We wised up and turned the tables somewhat winning a number of smaller engagements and generally chasing them around our space. Then last week they kind of dissappeared off our rader and we assumed they had got fed up being hassled by us and had buggered off (as many of our opponents do) - but it seems we had understimated them again Strangely just this morning I was telling someone that they would make good additions to MC as they are pretty good Empire fighters and reminded me of when we fought The Corporation just before they joined MC. Apart from a couple of champion smack talkers they have proved to be a resourceful and clever opponent - so kudos to them. However, they will be cleansed in the holy light of our Amarrian lasers! -------------------------------------------- Smiting pirates and terrorists for Amarr
Ventosus	Posted - 2006.05.20 22:14:00 - [15] I agree about the above, except that i dont feel like we have been "chased" around. Off course when fighting "numbers" and even with your agressive style, one have to think twice before doing anything stupid. Also we had a couple of incidents where locals (your NAP's) also engaged us in the middle of battles, so it was kinda hard to calculate at sometime, who would engage us. But it has had is very fun moment. We won some, you won some. CVA has proven themself to be very good fighters. About the smack.. well.. yeaa... ^_^ x13 ............... We will win Eve
Oberkorn	Posted - 2006.05.20 22:44:00 - [16] Edited by: Oberkorn on 20/05/2006 22:46:36 dammit! You guys where first to attack our pos tomorrow! I had to wrk to night But nice job on the carrier boys x13 4tw and i lub cosmic Got nothing to loose let's dance
Ace Frehley	Posted - 2006.05.20 23:06:00 - [17] go zcinner and Mang0o :D And fun to hear CVA did some great fighting cuz i know CF is great pvpers, and when they say someone gives good fight, well it must be true, AND GO LORDI!!!!!!! heja Soumi in eurovison from a swede and your biggest fan Text must be in english - Laqum http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/2280/acebar4xc.jpg Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes and your signature is inappropriate for these forums. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.05.21 01:00:00 - [18] Originally by: Hardin Edited by: Hardin on 20/05/2006 21:40:42 Put up a POS to tempt us. Had a fleet of BS with LOTS of neutralisers/NOS logged off in the system (for several days it seems) We attacked the POS They logged in at SS and warped in. My Carrier ran out of cap in about 30 secs while being shot at by the POS OUCH. Our support arrived but was too late. Lessons learned... you attack a POS with a CARRIER???? --------------------------------
FlumZ	Posted - 2006.05.21 01:04:00 - [19] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Hardin Edited by: Hardin on 20/05/2006 21:40:42 Put up a POS to tempt us. Had a fleet of BS with LOTS of neutralisers/NOS logged off in the system (for several days it seems) We attacked the POS They logged in at SS and warped in. My Carrier ran out of cap in about 30 secs while being shot at by the POS OUCH. Our support arrived but was too late. Lessons learned... you attack a POS with a CARRIER???? 2 carriers as support to the 4 dreads =)
Crellion	Posted - 2006.05.21 01:59:00 - [20] Wouldnt 6 Dreads tank better than 4 Dreads supported by two Carriers? Nm I am sure next time they ll know to use carriers liuke everybody else: safespotted with fighters assigned to inties closeing the system... what a fun ship to fly a carrier must be (lol?)
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.05.21 02:02:00 - [21] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Hardin Edited by: Hardin on 20/05/2006 21:40:42 Put up a POS to tempt us. Had a fleet of BS with LOTS of neutralisers/NOS logged off in the system (for several days it seems) We attacked the POS They logged in at SS and warped in. My Carrier ran out of cap in about 30 secs while being shot at by the POS OUCH. Our support arrived but was too late. Lessons learned... you attack a POS with a CARRIER???? Archons, woodie, they tank like the virgin mary kicks out at the pill :/
Sir JoJo	Posted - 2006.05.21 02:06:00 - [22] Originally by: Crellion Wouldnt 6 Dreads tank better than 4 Dreads supported by two Carriers? Nm I am sure next time they ll know to use carriers liuke everybody else: safespotted with fighters assigned to inties closeing the system... what a fun ship to fly a carrier must be (lol?) yeah 6 dreads tanks better but what if the 2 carriers cant fly dreads in any case i would bring all the capital ship i could get, carriers or dreads but ofc for shooting a pos id prefer as many dread i could get. snip Don't be nasty [email protected] to discuss mod - Cathath i am not nasty
Lucas Smaise	Posted - 2006.05.21 09:42:00 - [23] The real question is why shoudnt all the cap ships stay down together when fighting a small corp that couldnt muster more than 10-15 pilots at that time the most. According to their buddy list we only had 1 or 2 pilots on and with 25+ support in the area we werent a threat. Just another pirat POS to kill. But yes - They have learned from this and so have we. GF Lucas Smaise
Crax McGee	Posted - 2006.05.21 09:46:00 - [24] x13 = the <3 ITS X13 'OYEH!' Got to expect Gd Traps from them!
Hardin	Posted - 2006.05.21 10:01:00 - [25] Originally by: Lucas Smaise According to their buddy list we only had 1 or 2 pilots on and with 25+ support in the area we werent a threat. Just another pirat POS to kill. A fair summation. For the previous week x13 had only been seen in small numbers - maybe 1 or 2 pilots at most. We had around 25 other support ships with the 6 Capitals. The support was covering the 3 gates into the system in case of a counter attack and we had scouts out in neighbouring systems. The carriers (yes Archons) were with the Dreads at the POS as meatshields soaking up some of the POS fire so that the Dreads had it easier... What we hadn't counted on was the fact that x13 had actually been planning this since we smashed their other POS in the system the week before and had actually seneaked pilots into the system in the right setups and then had the patience to log them off at a SS near the POS to wait for a CVA attack. In a way we were lucky and in a way they were lucky. From what I am told they had expected us to attack today (on Sunday) and had actually planned to have more BS ready and logged off in the system for that attack. In which case it is very possible we might have lost more. On the other hand our we actually had no formal plans in place to attack the POS at all so x13 and their friends in Cosmic Fusion may have spent a week logged off in the system waiting for an attack that never came. We had actually arranged another pirate POS busting the same evening. That went exceedingly well and it went into reinforced earlier than we expected. It was at this stage that someone suggested hitting the x13 POS while we waited for the other to come out of reinforced - this giving x13 their opportunity. All in all it was a very good trap and I admire x13 for having the patience to pull it off - and yes - we have learned some very good lessons from this. Primarily never ever understimate an opponent or the lengths they will go to to get a kill BTW I am still accepting donations for the 'get Hardin a new carrier' fund. I only had the damn thing for 5 days EVE - dontcha just love it! -------------------------------------------- Smiting pirates and terrorists for Amarr
twit brent	Posted - 2006.05.21 10:09:00 - [26] So people are accepting logging off pilots in system and doing login traps as an acceptable tactic now?.
Lucas Smaise	Posted - 2006.05.21 10:16:00 - [27] Originally by: twit brent So people are accepting logging off pilots in system and doing login traps as an acceptable tactic now?. That depends wether or not you are infront of your screen while doing it. In our case we had all shared phone numbers for this to work and only 3-4 where actually home. So when message beeped that the fun had begin most of us raced home and logged in. So log-on can be discussed. It cant be a log-on trick when we havent been playing for some days 8). We just got a call for action and went for it. Lucas Smaise
Hardin	Posted - 2006.05.21 10:25:00 - [28] Originally by: twit brent So people are accepting logging off pilots in system and doing login traps as an acceptable tactic now?. Well we could just whine about it if you'd prefer -------------------------------------------- Smiting pirates and terrorists for Amarr
Rexthor Hammerfists	Posted - 2006.05.21 10:30:00 - [29] logofftactics are lame, u can speak around it as muchas u want.. using outgame mechanics, like that, is just lame.. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
Draximus Cane	Posted - 2006.05.21 10:42:00 - [30] Quote: It was at this stage that someone suggestedhitting the x13 POS while we waited for the other to come out of reinforced - thus giving x13 their opportunity (although earlier than they expected). OMGSPYZORZ?? -------------------------------------------------
Hardin	Posted - 2006.05.21 10:44:00 - [31] Nah don't think so... as they were planning for us to hit it on Sunday afterall -------------------------------------------- Smiting pirates and terrorists for Amarr
Laythun	Posted - 2006.05.21 11:09:00 - [32] I keep missing this sh*t 400x120@24000 bytes Max please. -Capsicum If im flaming or not contributing, im sorry. But im trying to get into the [23]
Hardin	Posted - 2006.05.21 13:16:00 - [33] Edited by: Hardin on 21/05/2006 13:23:43 I am pleased to report that the pirate POS was liquidated five minutes ago after it came out of reinforced ((well it makes me feel better anyway )) Amarr Victor -------------------------------------------- Smiting pirates and terrorists for Amarr
Agent2 Holtze	Posted - 2006.05.21 13:21:00 - [34] Been fun guys. And btw, these guys are one of the best wartargets we have had so far. And ofc Amarrians 4tw! Posting and you!
Lucas Smaise	Posted - 2006.05.21 13:22:00 - [35] Edited by: Lucas Smaise on 21/05/2006 13:25:55 Grats Good to see you had learned something - Nice to see that little fleet within quick jump range from the dreads this time. And thanks for the fighters someone forgot outside. Other than that thx for the fights. Lucas Smaise @Holzte: Bahh - Amarian scum...
Seleene	Posted - 2006.05.21 13:44:00 - [36] Originally by: Hardin One day, I will join the MC along with all of the other Amarrian ex-slaver dogs. - History of the MC movie!
Waut	Posted - 2006.05.21 14:17:00 - [37] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter Originally by: LoxyRider mans the phones your sigs are scary disturbing too In Soviet EVE, roids pop YOU <-- Future God Emperor of EvE
Dracolich	Posted - 2006.05.21 14:31:00 - [38] Kudos for Hardin for making this topic, congratulating opponents, and admitting the error of underestimation. Well done x13 and CF also. _______________________________________ Does killing the weak, make you feel strong?
Xider	Posted - 2006.05.21 18:03:00 - [39] Killmail
Angelus X	Posted - 2006.05.21 18:39:00 - [40] Heh, with such an expensive ship, I woulda thought you CVA chaps would have atleast made a little bit of effort and fitted T2 Cap rechargers instead of Named ones. (Not that it would have made a difference or anything I guess.) -----
Threx	Posted - 2006.05.22 05:52:00 - [41] Edited by: Threx on 22/05/2006 05:52:26 Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists logofftactics are lame, u can speak around it as muchas u want.. using outgame mechanics, like that, is just lame.. alot of stuff is lame in this game but they are all used for a reason so accept it and learn to work around it unfrotunatly not everything can be solved with 200 man node-bomb fleets
Xider	Posted - 2006.05.22 10:26:00 - [42] Originally by: Threx Edited by: Threx on 22/05/2006 05:52:26 Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists logofftactics are lame, u can speak around it as muchas u want.. using outgame mechanics, like that, is just lame.. alot of stuff is lame in this game but they are all used for a reason so accept it and learn to work around it unfrotunatly not everything can be solved with 200 man node-bomb fleets daaaamnn right..
Tach Yon	Posted - 2006.05.22 12:23:00 - [43] I thought that logoff tactics such as those employed by x13 were classed as an exploit? Petition it, get yer carrier back and get the whole of x13 and Comic Fusion (deliberate typo) banned now THAT would be funny
twit brent	Posted - 2006.05.22 12:30:00 - [44] Originally by: Tach Yon I thought that logoff tactics such as those employed by x13 were classed as an exploit? Petition it, get yer carrier back and get the whole of x13 and Comic Fusion (deliberate typo) banned now THAT would be funny It would be an exploit but CCP cant control when and where you log off. Using tactics like this are very lame and I just lost what little respect for x13 I might have had. If I lost the carrier I would sure as feck petition it because X13 themselves admitted they purposefully logged off to make this happen.
Tach Yon	Posted - 2006.05.22 12:34:00 - [45] yep, they were dumb enough to admit it on the forums. Go forth and petition Hardin
Scifa	Posted - 2006.05.22 12:43:00 - [46] Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists logofftactics are lame, u can speak around it as muchas u want.. using outgame mechanics, like that, is just lame.. Maybe you should quote that to the rest of BoB.
Klasper	Posted - 2006.05.22 12:46:00 - [47] Being in local for 15-20 minutes before the strike should be enough to warn the wary... But well, I like the fact that it's not CVA who's complaining about this... Cheers to you guys for the nice fights :)
Fire Hawk	Posted - 2006.05.22 12:59:00 - [48] Carriers are cheap tools. Gettings such a gang logged off for days just to kill one sounds pathetic to me. Add that using loggin/loggoff mechanisms isnt a glory trap but a lame trap. Btw, moros + heavy drones vs BS's = w1n. ____________________________________ omgfrenchpwntbh you are in teh pod.
Oosel	Posted - 2006.05.22 13:27:00 - [49] ouch thats got to hurt more than the loss of the disco balls hardin.......
FlumZ	Posted - 2006.05.22 13:34:00 - [50] Originally by: twit brent Originally by: Tach Yon I thought that logoff tactics such as those employed by x13 were classed as an exploit? Petition it, get yer carrier back and get the whole of x13 and Comic Fusion (deliberate typo) banned now THAT would be funny It would be an exploit but CCP cant control when and where you log off. Using tactics like this are very lame and I just lost what little respect for x13 I might have had. If I lost the carrier I would sure as feck petition it because X13 themselves admitted they purposefully logged off to make this happen. ? so if anyone log on and 10mins after attack a carrier ts a exploit?
Hilfiger24kk	Posted - 2006.05.22 13:54:00 - [51] Originally by: Fire Hawk Carriers are cheap tools. Gettings such a gang logged off for days just to kill one sounds pathetic to me. Add that using loggin/loggoff mechanisms isnt a glory trap but a lame trap. Btw, moros + heavy drones vs BS's = w1n. I really cant see the lameness of teamwork?! Speaking for my self, I came to the system just the day before, we was sure that the pos was to be attacked on sunday - but CVA was faster than exspected, and the show started on saturday. I know for a fact that most of us came to the system just the day before. Here comes the teamwork: We had a phone chain for the gang obs, and everybody began calling around when the pos was attacked. Well, we only managed to get hold on half the force we where expected to use on sunday, and therefore was a little unsure of the outcome, but we knew we would take down atleast one capital ship. Everybody began to log in, and after 10 minutes we all joined up on af common safespot and the gang aligned. We wated 5 more minutes, to be sure the capital ships where en siege (no escape) and then warped in and attacked. The rest af common knowledge. If you call this lame tacs, then you got something wrong . /King of the Hill
Ventosus	Posted - 2006.05.22 13:57:00 - [52] Quote: Gettings such a gang logged off for days just to kill one sounds pathetic to me. Add that using loggin/loggoff mechanisms isnt a glory trap but a lame trap. First of all, you should read the thread. We wasnt logged of for days as CVA said - thats a lie. Second of all, we had our spies in system, we had a couple of members in system. CVA knew our covert was there etc etc. When we was on the testserver testing stuff, we was alerted and logged in, now? is this an offence? We got the carrier, CVA reckonised this as beeing good sports as they are. When we logged in, we had 11 ships vs 30 They had no support around they capital fleet, aint our fault is it? They would have pwned us if they had played right. our login was not everyone who logged in a few seconds, it was spread over several minutes. it takes their support 30 seconds from the sport they where at to goto their capital fleet. Unless CCP makes it forbidden to log in when a pos is under attack, you should blame the game not the player. and another thing. We always log at safespot, which we also did this time (well expecting a capital fleet to arrive we fitted a bit diffrent) And why should our corp (many of us knows eachother reallife) not call eachother when our assets in under attack?? Now.. we played the game, they had plenty of time to react and get thir support in position, they didnt, even when they could see local was growing. I bet B0b at some point also get hold of members on MSN and stuff to get them ready for some blob operation somwhere, everyone knows that happens, or even on teamspeak! stop crying about this and making yourself look ridiciolus. it was apx 5 minutes after we logged in we attacked, even their dreads had not disablet siegemode.. WARNING: x13, will at any time protect our assets! If not online, we might call our commander and assamble a fleet to strike back on any agressors. So wipe your eyes, buy a covert and get proper support to the fleet. Thanks x13 ............... We will win Eve
Ventosus	Posted - 2006.05.22 14:12:00 - [53] Quote: Using tactics like this are very lame and I just lost what little respect for x13 I might have had. If I lost the carrier I would sure as feck petition it because X13 themselves admitted they purposefully logged off to make this happen. If this is a problem, get CCP to make it impossible for a corp to login while hes pos in under attack. yeaa that sounds stupid dosnt it? x13 ............... We will win Eve
Hardin	Posted - 2006.05.22 14:31:00 - [54] Please can a moderator lock this thread. It has served its purpose and does not need to be hijacked by a debate on log on tactics. Thanks ------------------------------ Hardin's Blog
Ventosus	Posted - 2006.05.22 14:43:00 - [55] agreed, but just for the record. Gang was formed: 20:37 Carrier was killed 20:44 Carrier was killed in apx 1 minute. In between our arrivel, our opponent had 6 minutes to get the carriers out and get close to spot. enough said. x13 ............... We will win Eve
Majaraw Awalabas	Posted - 2006.05.22 15:43:00 - [56] Originally by: Hardin --- Hardin's Blog Your choice of template and font makes the website illegible. Sorry for your loss, Empires finest primary target.
Hardin	Posted - 2006.05.22 16:18:00 - [57] Originally by: Majaraw Awalabas Originally by: Hardin --- Hardin's Blog Your choice of template and font makes the website illegible. Noted ------------------------------ Hardin's Blog

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