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Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm. Black Flag Society
242
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Posted - 2014.05.02 12:12:00 -
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This will fix them.
Try and prove me wrong. LP store weapon cost rebalance |

Darth Kilth
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
165
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Posted - 2014.05.02 12:13:00 -
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Or just make Covops cloak and nullified mutually exclusive.
but really, go to features and ideas with this. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5645
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Posted - 2014.05.02 12:15:00 -
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They're honestly fine, cov ops is a way to force a fight. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1666
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Posted - 2014.05.02 12:15:00 -
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You sir, just fixed and won Eve at the same time. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |

Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
374
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Posted - 2014.05.02 12:16:00 -
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As cheap as cloaky nullified T3s are, in the Interceptor age, they kind of slide down the scale of offensiveness (especially once off-grid boosting gets dealt with, and their effectiveness as booster ships get hammered). |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
966
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Posted - 2014.05.02 12:19:00 -
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Still eight days to Evasive Manuvering V.
And I always put cloaks on my interceptor when going to low or null. Saved my ass a lot of times.
Just too bad it's no covops. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860
Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Ryann Padecain
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2014.05.02 12:22:00 -
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Wormholes |

Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm. Black Flag Society
242
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:02:00 -
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Ryann Padecain wrote:Wormholes
This isn't a matter of location - it's a matter of another broken-from-release jesus feature that still hasn't been adequately addressed since it was launched.
There are supposed to be penalties to using cloaks, but I don't see how any cruiser, even a terribly fit tengu like one I just made in pyfa - with 371dps and 70k ehp, could be called bad. It might be a bad tengu, but it still warps cloaked and has more EHP than a HAC which is a specialist combat ship as compared to this king of all trades T3 debacle. LP store weapon cost rebalance |

Arthur Aihaken
Erebus Solia
3427
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:04:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:This will fix them. Try and prove me wrong. No. Ditto. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |

Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm. Black Flag Society
242
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:08:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Caleb Seremshur wrote:This will fix them. Try and prove me wrong. No. Ditto.
It will fix them by demanding they play on a power level relative to the time it takes to fly them combined with their potential load outs. They're very forgiving ships in terms of fitting mistakes compared to other vessels in 1v1 scenarios thanks to overly generous stats and slots.
And don't cite costs to me - t3's aren't that expensive any more. A faction battleship costs more, does less and dies faster. This **** isn't logical. LP store weapon cost rebalance |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5647
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:10:00 -
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We can remove cov ops cloaks as soon as we remove warp stabs from the game. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21450
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:12:00 -
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Fix what? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm. Black Flag Society
242
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:14:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:We can remove cov ops cloaks as soon as we remove warp stabs from the game.
That's not an argument
covops cloaks don't **** your scan res and lock range. LP store weapon cost rebalance |

Blodhgarm Dethahal
Transcendent Sedition Dustm3n
113
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:22:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Caleb Seremshur wrote:This will fix them. Try and prove me wrong. No. Ditto. It will fix them by demanding they play on a power level relative to the time it takes to fly them combined with their potential load outs. They're very forgiving ships in terms of fitting mistakes compared to other vessels in 1v1 scenarios thanks to overly generous stats and slots. And don't cite costs to me - t3's aren't that expensive any more. A faction battleship costs more, does less and dies faster. This **** isn't logical.
While we are on the subject of cost... did you forget we also lose SP when they go boom?
If I lose SP for flying a ship... give me some perks to motivate me to use it... -Bl+¦d
http://bloodytravels.blogspot.com/ -á-- My travels through space. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5647
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:24:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:We can remove cov ops cloaks as soon as we remove warp stabs from the game. That's not an argument covops cloaks don't **** your scan res and lock range.
No, instead you simply can't attack at all while you have one active. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Jessica Duranin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
77
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:25:00 -
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It seems someone just got killed by a cloaky T3...  |

Jai Centarium
Anqara Expeditions
27
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:27:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:SNIP
And I always put cloaks on my interceptor when going to low or null.
Why?
The current iteration of interceptors are almost uncatchable. Yes, there are a few fits that will be able to instalock a few other fits, but by and large, interceptors can pick and choose the location of the engagement, not the other way around. They're a great tool for introducing a bit of chaos to normally quiet systems because of that, and because they're
Fitting a cloak on your interceptor makes very little sense, unless you're afk cloaking. I'm a little teapot, short and stout. |

Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
1217
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:56:00 -
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Remove strategy from strategic cruisers. |

Bael Malefic
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
89
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:05:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:This will fix them.
Try and prove me wrong.
No, try and prove you are right.
The fact one killed you does not make it wrong. |

Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
43
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:09:00 -
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Well it would save me the trouble of training for one since being able to use a covert ops cloak and use a T3 cruiser as a super duper exploration ship is the only reason I want one. |

Haaranovor tenn
Trans Secunda Nulli Secunda
2
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:32:00 -
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So having the DPS of a pissed off swallowtail isn't enough? |

Kristalll
Valkyrie Professional Resources
226
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:35:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:Ryann Padecain wrote:Wormholes This isn't a matter of location - it's a matter of another broken-from-release jesus feature that still hasn't been adequately addressed since it was launched. There are supposed to be penalties to using cloaks, but I don't see how any cruiser, even a terribly fit tengu like one I just made in pyfa - with 371dps and 70k ehp, could be called bad. It might be a bad tengu, but it still warps cloaked and has more EHP than a HAC which is a specialist combat ship as compared to this king of all trades T3 debacle.
Stratios does better and costs less.
Your move.
Oh, btw, if you want to point at OP cov ops T3, look at the proteus, not the Tengu. GÇ£Die tryingGÇ¥ is the proudest human thing. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4858
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:52:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:This will fix them.
Try and prove me wrong.
Let's just arm-wrestle instead. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
1444
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:53:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:This will fix them.
Try and prove me wrong. I don't know... this hits me more as stealth nerf cloaks thread. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |

Jessica Duranin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
80
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:54:00 -
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Kristalll wrote:Oh, btw, if you want to point at OP cov ops T3, look at the proteus, not the Tengu. He lost his Cerberus to a Cov OPs Tengu and it's friends today - that's why Tengus are suddenly OP now. 
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Prince Sanguine
124
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:06:00 -
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Jessica Duranin wrote:It seems someone just got killed by a cloaky T3...  EDIT: *Checks Calebs Killboard... * We have a winner! 
Lol Everytime you read this you are required to send 100 million isk directly to me. |

knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
376
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:19:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:This will fix them.
Try and prove me wrong.
Watch out CCP Rise, this guy is going to poach your job. |

Tetsuo Tsukaya
Doom Generation THE H0NEYBADGER
364
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:46:00 -
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Kristalll wrote:Caleb Seremshur wrote:Ryann Padecain wrote:Wormholes This isn't a matter of location - it's a matter of another broken-from-release jesus feature that still hasn't been adequately addressed since it was launched. There are supposed to be penalties to using cloaks, but I don't see how any cruiser, even a terribly fit tengu like one I just made in pyfa - with 371dps and 70k ehp, could be called bad. It might be a bad tengu, but it still warps cloaked and has more EHP than a HAC which is a specialist combat ship as compared to this king of all trades T3 debacle. Stratios does better and costs less. Your move. Oh, btw, if you want to point at OP cov ops T3, look at the proteus, not the Tengu.
Stratios costs more actually, and doesn't get the same boost to probe strength. It's a viable alternative to T3s though, but it isn't outright better.
Also "cloaky scout that can tackle and provide DPS" is a pretty huge role in wormholes. It would be dreadful if the Stratios was the only option for such a big role.
EDIT: the Stratios in most ways is straight up better than the pilgrim though |

Spurty
V0LTA Triumvirate.
1342
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:09:00 -
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Delete Standings, Cloaks and Drones and you will have fixed EVE but at the cost of the META. *signature is not allowed on the EVE Online forums* |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1328

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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:01:00 -
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Quote:22. Post constructively.
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